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xalexkxxalexkx Member Posts: 193 Arc User
The UI is pretty bad imo. even with interface scaling, i find hard it to play right now.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one who is not happy with the new UI.
So , why dont we have an option to use the old UI? It would make everyone happy.
Think about it
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  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The old UI is gone, it no longer exists, it is an ex-UI.

    The old UI was completely removed to make room for the new one, the Devs have said that they cannot bring it back as an option for the new UI.
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    xalexkx wrote: »
    The UI is pretty bad imo. even with interface scaling, i find hard it to play right now.
    And i'm sure i'm not the only one who is not happy with the new UI.
    So , why dont we have an option to use the old UI? It would make everyone happy.
    Think about it

    You are right, most people just dont cast their opinions.

    The new UI would be fine with a bit of tweaking, and remove all the rainbow colors in it.
    MT - Sad Pandas
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You are right, most people just dont cast their opinions.

    The new UI would be fine with a bit of tweaking, and remove all the rainbow colors in it.

    the rainbow coloUrs are what makes it attractive. It's easier for me to tell the differences
  • xalexkxxalexkx Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the ship on the hud where it shows the ship and hull and shields sucks also imo. the old one was way better
    To boldly go where no FAWer has ever FAWed before.
  • xalexkxxalexkx Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    and also the space team interface
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    xalexkx wrote: »
    Think about it

    I thought about it. I realized that if I was a dev, trying to please Trekkies would drive me to drink.
    <3
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the rainbow coloUrs are what makes it attractive. It's easier for me to tell the differences

    For you it migth be easier, but there are also alot of old guys here that know exactly where our abilities are located and dont need these ugly colors in the UI.
    MT - Sad Pandas
  • deadspacex64deadspacex64 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    I thought about it. I realized that if I was a dev, trying to please Trekkies would drive me to drink.

    i think they already do...did you see how well the rollout of LoR went?:P
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  • xalexkxxalexkx Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    For you it migth be easier, but there are also alot of old guys here that know exactly where our abilities are located and dont need these ugly colors in the UI.

    Finally. someone who understands
    To boldly go where no FAWer has ever FAWed before.
  • fonz71fonz71 Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the new UI is almost bad enuff to make me find another game... seriously. -.- the colors are so bright i can barely make out the textures. i think they improved those, but i can't tell. lol what attracted me to this game in the first place was the graphics. being a fan of trek was also, but if the graphics sucked i wouldn't have stuck around.

    also, is it just me or are the beams and such also way brighter and more cartoonish?

    as for being easier for new players, you are only new for about a week. after that, all of the pastels and many different colors are only a distraction imho. did PWE\CRYPTIC join forces with crayola?

    please tweak it, at the very least. better yet, bring back an option for the old UI.

    please and thank you.
    Don't know why it says i'm an ARC user. i will never use that TRIBBLE Cryptic!
  • edna#7310 edna Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fonz71 wrote: »
    the new UI is almost bad enuff to make me find another game... seriously. -.- the colors are so bright i can barely make out the textures. i think they improved those, but i can't tell. lol what attracted me to this game in the first place was the graphics. being a fan of trek was also, but if the graphics sucked i wouldn't have stuck around.

    also, is it just me or are the beams and such also way brighter and more cartoonish?

    as for being easier for new players, you are only new for about a week. after that, all of the pastels and many different colors are only a distraction imho. did PWE\CRYPTIC join forces with crayola?

    please tweak it, at the very least. better yet, bring back an option for the old UI.

    please and thank you.

    guess going to options menu to set colours and bloom for weapons and UI needs a tutorial now.
  • typlixomtyplixom Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fonz71 wrote: »
    the new UI is almost bad enuff to make me find another game... seriously. -.-

    Quoted for the frakking truth!

    The uproar of people complaining during the beta should have made them realize this.. did they fix it? Obviously not.
    adrianm63 wrote: »
    guess going to options menu to set colours and bloom for weapons and UI needs a tutorial now.

    Changing the color of the TRIBBLE UI fixes diddley squat.
  • smoovioussmoovious Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    <dumbstuff>
    Maybe the whole UI change, removal of the behind-the-head/first-person view on the ground, mail limitation (which I actually agree with on that one), all of those other settings that keep resetting between zones, the lack of a walk/jog default setting, etc etc etc...

    Maybe all of that is just a plan to drive people away from STO so they can make more server room for their NV game?
    </dumbstuff>

    -- Smoov
  • xalexkxxalexkx Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    took me some time, but i found a way to balance it. i can now play well. i still hate the space team interface and the rainbow colors tho, but will take some time to get used to it

    -
    To boldly go where no FAWer has ever FAWed before.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    I thought about it. I realized that if I was a dev, trying to please Trekkies would drive me to drink.
    I used to Admin and modbuild for Freelancer and I finally got to the point where I just pulled the plug, uninstalled the game, deleted all the files and threw the game disc in the microwave. Developing for a gaming community is a job I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

    I like the new ui a great deal more than the old one, if this one also uses up less resources, so much the better. They could create a pair of themes that have the look of the old ui using the new system. But probably the best option, which I doubt we could get, would be to make the ui user modifiable, like WoW and a number of other games, then players could set their ui up any damn way they want and have no one to blame but themselves if it doesn't look right.

    That said they should probably do very little to it and let people just get used to it. People are naturally resistant to change, but given time, they might look at things differently, regardless of what they are saying now.
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  • danquellerdanqueller Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I don't understand why having another theme that converts the -colors- of the new HUD into the same monochromatic themes of the original is so much more difficult than coming up with the multi-color ones that actually require 'this color' and 'that color'. It would simply be a matter of setting the color settings to shades of whatever color is the baseline, with other colors for the effects of the original.

    While this wouldn't fix the other problems with the HUD (such as the oversized ship shield/damage displays, overprioritized 'minor' interaction windows that dominate all others, ect), at least it would present a scheme that would remove much of the color distraction.

    Offering people a 'classic' scheme that isn't 'classic' seems like a strange case of myopia.
  • danquellerdanqueller Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    That said they should probably do very little to it and let people just get used to it. People are naturally resistant to change, but given time, they might look at things differently, regardless of what they are saying now.

    That's a similar argument to someone who bungie jumps pushing another person off the bridge despite that other person insisting that they have a fear of heights. People are saying they don't like the new schemes, and for valid reasons. Responding that they should not be listened to because 'they'll see things differently once they get used to it' is simple ignorance that criticism with cause is not about acclimatization but about a faulty system/product. -Especially- when the entire point of having a selection of schemes is to allow the user to select how they personally view the HUD.

    By the same token, I could reply 'We should force everyone to operate without a HUD altogther, as it makes the game so much more like a movie. Don't listen to the people who say they can't play with it like that, because they are just resisting change and will no doubt love it once they get used to it!'.

    What the Devs should probably do is give people the option to use the old HUD or the new HUD, rather than sticking to what many people consider a broken version of a thing that wasn't broken before they changed it. That way, the people who like/need colors to tell them what is what on their HUD can have it, and those who find it too distracting from the real game can have their version of the HUD too. That is a win/win situation, as opposed to the win/loss situation you are advocating (where only those who like/need colors get what they want and the people who find it too distracting are told to 'get used to it or get off our game').
  • fonz71fonz71 Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    adrianm63 wrote: »
    guess going to options menu to set colours and bloom for weapons and UI needs a tutorial now.

    went there, did that.... still sucks :P
    Don't know why it says i'm an ARC user. i will never use that TRIBBLE Cryptic!
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fonz71 wrote: »
    went there, did that.... still sucks :P

    In that case you might just need to adjust your monitor settings or take away all the colors.

    The only side effect might be the game looking monochrome now but hey.. The UI dropped back by 10 years of development, guess u gotta go with the flow :D
    MT - Sad Pandas
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If people will give intelligent analyses of why the new ui isn't working for them they have a better chance of being taken seriously than merely saying, "the new ui sucks we should have an option for the old ui". The old ui is gone, the software it used was a resource hog and had many aspects that a large proportion of players found intolerable, that in sufficient numbers that developers decided a change was needed. The new ui uses a different system, so people asking for the old ui as an option are asking for a great deal more than just what they can see. What those people probably can get now is a theme using the new system that looks like the old ui, but the only way that might happen is if enough people take the time to list in detail what specifically they think is wrong with the new system and specifically what part of the old system they would like to see returned.
    If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    If people will give intelligent analyses of why the new ui isn't working for them they have a better chance of being taken seriously than merely saying, "the new ui sucks we should have an option for the old ui". The old ui is gone, the software it used was a resource hog and had many aspects that a large proportion of players found intolerable, that in sufficient numbers that developers decided a change was needed. The new ui uses a different system, so people asking for the old ui as an option are asking for a great deal more than just what they can see. What those people probably can get now is a theme using the new system that looks like the old ui, but the only way that might happen is if enough people take the time to list in detail what specifically they think is wrong with the new system and specifically what part of the old system they would like to see returned.

    You talk like its all so tough and difficult to achieve, but you just gotta extract the gamefiles and you can pretty much edit the whole UI urself since they are just a recognizable format by most professional paint/photoshop programs.

    In fact several people managed to change the UI icons themselves a long time ago and re-implemented it into the game. I seriously do not feel a single difference with the new system in terms of performance (Except for the Email not dropping your fps down to 20)

    In fact the performance in this game has dropped again considerably and there is no improvement to be seen ANYWhere.

    PEople complaining about the contrast and colors of the UI is not a myth, and im sure its not a simple case of 'we just gotta get used to it' anymore because if it doesnt get used to after a week then its a lost cause.

    The UI is a big mess atm.
    MT - Sad Pandas
  • carcharodon1975carcharodon1975 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The new UI is pretty....pretty damn ugly that is.
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  • typlixomtyplixom Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    take the time to list in detail what specifically they think is wrong with the new system

    EVERYTHING. Plain and simple.
    maxvitor wrote: »
    and specifically what part of the old system they would like to see returned.

    Same as before, EVERYTHING. Same fonts same colors same location of every button, window and bolt. Everything.
  • chemicalmonkeychemicalmonkey Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Indeed. The whole UI is a problem, not just parts of it.

    The borders are too big on some sections (Chat, Hull/Shields, "Low Priority Interaction" section windows) and too small on others (Bridge Officer Skills), making HUD Scaling a horrendous pain. You find which size is less problematic and go with that. Either something will be too small or something else will be too big there is no good size.

    Pop-up windows like the hailing windows when you start an STF are way too big as well. I've rescaled it every time i have seen one and it just goes back every time i close the game.

    Also, who's bright idea was it to make all of this stuff black? It might work awesome for an operating system theme but a black HUD when your IN SPACE is a seriously stupid thing to deal with. I can't even read what drops from an STF anymore thanks to this oh so great new UI setup.

    I won't even bother listing all the problems it has using a wide screen monitor...it would be quicker to list what isn't bad.
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