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Lindelof teases Trek 3 villains and potential crossover with....Spoiler Alert!
hawkwing43
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In an interview with HeyUGuys, and if you didn't watch Star Trek into Darkness there may be spoilers for you. Star Trek scribe Damon Lindelof not only revealed who may be the bad guys for Star Trek XIII, but also talked about the Borg and Q, and a potential crossover with the prime timeline.
In one part he says:
?You can never see enough Klingons, and I think in this film we?ve given the audience a little taste, but there?s also a promise that there?s a larger conflict on the horizon, and that would be fun to see.?
Then a question about Khan:
?To answer that question would be to determine whether or not he actually survives this movie, but if he survives this movie, I think that we would be incredibly stupid to not use him again.?
And finally:
?You can?t talk about Trek and not talk about the Borg, and certainly about Q. Very iconic adversaries from The Next Generation which is, outside of the original cast films, was my entry way into Star Trek, so I wouldn?t mind getting ? towards the end of our run on Star Trek, maybe baby Picard could be born. There has to be some sort of crossover we?re not thinking of.?
You can read more here at HeyUGuys:
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/damon-lindelof-says-he-already-knows-the-bad-guys-and-key-plot-points-of-star-trek-iii/
So what do you guys thnk?
In one part he says:
?You can never see enough Klingons, and I think in this film we?ve given the audience a little taste, but there?s also a promise that there?s a larger conflict on the horizon, and that would be fun to see.?
Then a question about Khan:
?To answer that question would be to determine whether or not he actually survives this movie, but if he survives this movie, I think that we would be incredibly stupid to not use him again.?
And finally:
?You can?t talk about Trek and not talk about the Borg, and certainly about Q. Very iconic adversaries from The Next Generation which is, outside of the original cast films, was my entry way into Star Trek, so I wouldn?t mind getting ? towards the end of our run on Star Trek, maybe baby Picard could be born. There has to be some sort of crossover we?re not thinking of.?
You can read more here at HeyUGuys:
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/damon-lindelof-says-he-already-knows-the-bad-guys-and-key-plot-points-of-star-trek-iii/
So what do you guys thnk?
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Part of me is scared JJ will just muck up the prime universe.
If I heard right, JJ won't be as central to the next movie since he's got Star Wars to "reimagine", so maybe there's hope.
I still groan everytime I remember the JJprise rising out of the ocean and zooming across the sky at a couple of thousand feet above the ground.
Someone who'll go back in time to save a couple of WHALES, but apparently not his own PLANET.
Perhaps Kirk was right, and he didn't love his mother after all.
1. Let the Borg rest in peace, please. They've been abused enough.
2. I don't see Q working in a movie. He's fine in an episodic setting, where his meddling is usually intended to prove a point or something, but having an Omnipotent Being sitting around being smarmy would suck all the drama out of a major movie.
In nearly every encounter with Q in between all his crazy nonsense, he does seem to help.
Making Q some mustache twirling megalomaniac, might be fun in the short term. but I think it would ultimately not feel like Q (unless he is doing the whole mustache twirly thing just to get a rise out of Picard. I can totally see him doing that.)
I'm not sure I follow this. Is your concern about the ship operating in other environments than space? Tomorrow Is Yesterday established that the original Enterprise could still function in an atmosphere.
I'd personally wish them to leave the alternate universe separate from the prime now, unless they are either going to move Spock Prime back to the prime universe, or they are going to end by wiping out the alternate and completely re-establishing the prime as the sole timeline. Neither sounds likely.
Borg are a trickier matter. TNG suggested the first encounter was due to Q's meddling with the Enterprise. Voyager retconned that to say the Borg had apparently been picking up ships and small populations of Beta and Alpha species for years before. I'm not sure I'd like the Borg in Kirk's era though. It might require another deus ex machina of information from Spock Prime. Best to leave the Borg for altered TNG.
Klingons are the classic enemy and have yet to truly be shown in full force in space. I say bring the 5 captains into the picture: Kang, Koloth, Kor, Gorkon, and Chang.
is what i would say if i was a hater. im indifferent about JJverse.... aside when everyone wants everything from the hands off movies in the game.
If they wanted Q, they could just as easily recast as call up John DeLancie. Certainly Patrick Stewart wouldn't be needed for "baby Picard". Not much need for a crossover.
Having an alternate timeline gives them free reign to reinvent things as they see fit. Why would they want to shackle themselves to the prime timeline? Regrettably, we are no longer the target audience. The push is to make the franchise profitable by making it more "accessible", i.e. less "Trek". Occasional nods to the actual Trek fans are all that's required.
Look at the uniforms in the new movie. For the most part, they're generic gray sci-fi uniforms. The only time we see the "classic" uniforms at all is on the Enterprise itself.
With Q, I could see them doing like in the novels and connecting the omnipotent beings like Apollo in TOS being a Q. And I wouldn't mind a cameo by Delancy and Stewart in returning Spock back to the Prime timeline.
You make a good point, one which I'd forgotten. In essence, that's another time alternate, Borg to the past, and now with the Antarctic expedition borgified and on its way to tell the rest about Earth. So yeah, I suppose a movie could cover the fallout from that.
If they must fight, I still want a Klingon war, though. However, if they can make a movie without major conflict, I'd be interested in something along the lines of City On The Edge Of Forever.
That, and it seems to be the case that the continuum span universes - so that there is no "alternate reality Q" - just Q.
why not just invent new aliens to combat or even hell a Mirror universe would be acceptable over Borg in a movie like this.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Then they remade Wrath of Khan. Then JJ appeared on Conan and referred to the "rebooted Star Trek franchise"
Plus Orci has suggested for years he'd like to do the borg. So I fully expect Trek 3 to have the Klingons and the Borg. Praxis has already blown up so frak it, go whole hog. The reason Changs ship can fire when cloaked is it has modified Borg tech the Klingons salvaged from the Narada.
... As much as I love Star Trek '09, I left the cinema after Into Darkness full of nothing but anger directed at JJ Abrams. The Star Wars fanboys will feel the same when they see Vader as the villain again. Now, I'm just ambivalent toward the whole thing. I've got the TOS movies, the series and STO to keep me happy. I'm not going to rush to the cinema to see Trek 3 however
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