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Fleet Valdore Warbird (customization)

flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Just reached level #50 on my Romulan Toon, and purchased the Fleet Mogai/Valdore.

Went to the ship customization, and I'm being charged 1000zen to use the Valdore skin? This is (yet another) bug right? I didn't have to pay anything more for the Imperial Skin on my Fleet Assault Cruiser; why would the Fleet Mogai be any different?

So yeah, is this a bug, or is it working as intended? If the latter, I'm disappointed.
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  • darthpetersendarthpetersen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Because its not the same shipclass in STO i believe. So you have to buy the Valdore T3 variant.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Just reached level #50 on my Romulan Toon, and purchased the Fleet Mogai/Valdore.

    Went to the ship customization, and I'm being charged 1000zen to use the Valdore skin? This is (yet another) bug right? I didn't have to pay anything more for the Imperial Skin on my Fleet Assault Cruiser; why would the Fleet Mogai be any different?

    So yeah, is this a bug, or is it working as intended? If the latter, I'm disappointed.

    You have to have the c-store Valdore to use the skin on the Fleet Mogai

    I have the Valdore retrofit - so I did not have to pay again to use the skin on the Fleet Mogai
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hmm, well that's a bit of a conn really. You don't have to buy all the skins / ships for other FED/KDF vessels in order to use them on Fleet Ships. The Fleet Assault Cruiser, the Klingon Tor'khat (a vessel I used to have).

    Now they want another 1000zen out of me when I've already paid (what would be) 2000zen for 4x Fleet Modules? 3000zen total. Yet if I'd purchased the ship first (at 2000zen) I'd have only needed a single Fleet Module? Thus saving myself 500zen.

    Would have been nice if they were perfectly clear about this.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Hmm, well that's a bit of a conn really. You don't have to buy all the skins / ships for other FED/KDF vessels in order to use them on Fleet Ships. The Fleet Assault Cruiser, the Klingon Tor'khat (a vessel I used to have).

    Now they want another 1000zen out of me when I've already paid (what would be) 2000zen for 4x Fleet Modules? 3000zen total. Yet if I'd purchased the ship first (at 2000zen) I'd have only needed a single Fleet Module? Thus saving myself 500zen.

    Would have been nice if they were perfectly clear about this.

    no you need only have the T3 version - that's 1000 I think and you get a console
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    newromulan1 wrote: »
    no you need only have the T3 version - that's 1000 I think and you get a console
    So I've actually been conned out of 1500zen?
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 741 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Hmm, well that's a bit of a conn really. You don't have to buy all the skins / ships for other FED/KDF vessels in order to use them on Fleet Ships. The Fleet Assault Cruiser, the Klingon Tor'khat (a vessel I used to have).

    Now they want another 1000zen out of me when I've already paid (what would be) 2000zen for 4x Fleet Modules? 3000zen total. Yet if I'd purchased the ship first (at 2000zen) I'd have only needed a single Fleet Module? Thus saving myself 500zen.

    Would have been nice if they were perfectly clear about this.

    It used to be that way with all skins.

    Before those skins became fleet ship exclusive.
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    So I've actually been conned out of 1500zen?

    Do you get things like the Rhode Island, Bellerophon, Regent and Venture skins for free with fleet ships?
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    So I've actually been conned out of 1500zen?

    No

    T3 Valdore cost 1000 Zen - you get a shield power console 1 of 2 part

    T5 Mogai Retrofit 2000 Zen - you get the energy weapon console 2 of 2

    This will allow you to get Fleet Mogai for 1 FSM and have Valdore skin

    This is what I did.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lucianazeta wrote: »
    It used to be that way with all skins.

    Before those skins became fleet ship exclusive.
    I remember those days. Seems they've gone back to it.
    assimilatedktar wrote: »
    Do you get things like the Rhode Island, Bellerophon, Regent and Venture skins for free with fleet ships?
    I am unsure about the Venture, but the Rhode Island and Bellerophon you do, yeah. The Regent you do not, however.
    newromulan1 wrote: »
    T3 Valdore cost 1000 Zen - you get a shield power console 1 of 2 part

    T5 Mogai Retrofit 2000 Zen - you get the energy weapon console 2 of 2

    This will allow you to get Fleet Mogai for 1 FSM and have Valdore skin
    That's great, except I've already purchased the ship assuming the skin would come with it (as it does other vessels). I haven't much interest in all these fancy consoles; all I was after was the skin.
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  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    It just means you got it cheaper if you did not want the consoles

    1000+2000+500 = 3500 Zen it cost me
  • edwardianededwardianed Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You do not get the Rhode Island, Bellerophon, Regent and Venture skins for free when buying a fleet ship; you have to buy the earlier tier versions. It's always been like this.
  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Just reached level #50 on my Romulan Toon, and purchased the Fleet Mogai/Valdore.

    Went to the ship customization, and I'm being charged 1000zen to use the Valdore skin? This is (yet another) bug right? I didn't have to pay anything more for the Imperial Skin on my Fleet Assault Cruiser; why would the Fleet Mogai be any different?

    So yeah, is this a bug, or is it working as intended? If the latter, I'm disappointed.

    Definitely working as intended. This was explained in one of the dev blogs or podcasts prior to launch.

    Generally speaking, you need to own a C-store ship in order to use the skin on a different ship. I know there are a few exceptions but these are generally cases where something got grandfathered in, maybe from when skins were a separate item in the C-store.
  • marksamuelsonmarksamuelson Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm really enjoying mine. It's fast, turns like a Bird of Prey, hand has stronger hull & shields than my D'deridex. It is a lot of fun to go blasting Tholians or whoever with too.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    newromulan1 wrote: »
    It just means you got it cheaper if you did not want the consoles
    Thus, to summarize (for my sake).

    Valdore Type = 1000 Zen
    Mogai Retrofit = 2000 Zen
    Fleet Ship Module (as you'll only need one by this point) = 500 Zen
    Total = 3500 Zen

    That being said, if you purchased the Mogai Retrofit and Valdore Type, you might settle there, thus allude the extra 500 Zen for a would-be-fleet module.


    What I've done is spend 2000 Zen on 4x Fleet Modules, and (would have to) spend another 1000 Zen on the Valdore Type specifically for the skin? Bringing my total to 3000 Zen. Still a lot considering all I care for is the skin. Consoles should be sold independently on the Store.
    edwardianed wrote: »
    You do not get the Rhode Island, Bellerophon, Regent and Venture skins for free when buying a fleet ship; you have to buy the earlier tier versions. It's always been like this.
    Are you absolutely sure about that? I have a vague memory of one of my old-temporary characters getting the Intrepid with the Bellerophon skin.
    voxinvictus wrote: »
    Definitely working as intended. This was explained in one of the dev blogs or podcasts prior to launch.
    A link to that blog please? I did make a point of reading all the blogs covering LoR, and if I've missed it, I'd like to know.
    voxinvictus wrote: »
    Generally speaking, you need to own a C-store ship in order to use the skin on a different ship. I know there are a few exceptions but these are generally cases where something got grandfathered in, maybe from when skins were a separate item in the C-store.
    Right.
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Are you absolutely sure about that? I have a vague memory of one of my old-temporary characters getting the Intrepid with the Bellerophon skin.

    C-Store ships (IE: you make a purchase in the c-store, and you get a ship), and their associated goodies, have never unlocked upon purchase of fleet variants.

    What fleet variants unlock are ship costume packs, such as the Hephaestus, Maelstrom, Imperial, etc.
  • hamster2159hamster2159 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    To be fair its called the fleet mogai not fleet valdore
  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The reason you get the Imperial skin etc with fleet AC is simple. You used to have to buy that skin seperate it wasnt a ship just a skin. So when they did F2P they removed the skins unless you had already bought them. But added them to the fleet version of the ships for free.

    ALL other cstore ones are ships not skins, 2 different things. To use the parts of the valdore you must buy the valdore that simple. And the T3 valdore comes with the best console aside from plasmonic leach.

    This is all part of the reason i sprung for the big legacy pack. All the consoles, all the ships, all the parts and after all that just 1 module per ship for fleet versions. Saved a ton of money in the long run, bought all of the Fleet ships save the T5 shipyard ones already.

    Tons of fun the fleet mogai is just badass.
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