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psycoticvulcan
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Okay, I'm loving LoR so far, except for one thing: the Romulans have no choice of free ships for leveling up. So when you reach level 30, you have no choice but to switch from the Mogai to the D'deridex, which is a completely different type of playstyle from the one you're used to. And the Boff layout is totally different.
Could we get some more free Romulan ships so that we'll have more variety when leveling up?
Could we get some more free Romulan ships so that we'll have more variety when leveling up?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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1. You do have access to your ally's ships. Many have gone back and requisitioned a Defiant just to run Devil's Choice, for example...
2. For a new player, the Romulan ship progression forces them to play with a variety of ship types, so that when they hit Admiral they can make an informed decision about what to use for the other 99.999...% of their time in game (after Lv. 50).
Still, being stuck with the choice of flying the D'Deridex, which many of us hated, or breaking your Romulan experience by going into an allied ship is kind of crappy. You could also just stick with the Mogai for an extra 10 levels, that is an option some have taken as well.
It doesn't inform you about how to fly the Ha'nom, though, which has the unfortunate distinction of being the only Science Warbird.
As Cryptic continues to introduce more T5 ships, I'd like to see them introduce some (free) lower-tier Science and Battlecruiser Warbirds (as well as a Destroyer/Escort Warbird for T4) as well. The TNG/VOY science vessel would be a candidate for one such ship (provided they develop a transition between it and the Ha'nom, I figure it'd fit well as a T3 ship with a T5 Retrofit).
Not many people will have amassed 80,000 Refined Dilithium during their level up.
True, but I think that should be the player's choice.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
I agree. Here is my proposal for that Science Ship from "The Next Phase" (TNG):
Tier 3
Hull: 20,500
Shields: 4845
Shield Mod: 1.3
Weapons: 3 Fore, 2 Aft
Crew: 400
BOFFs: Lt. Cdr Sci, Lt. Tac, Lt. Eng, Ensign Sci
Devices: 3
Consoles: 3 Sci, 2 Eng, 1 Tac
Turn rate: 14
Impulse Mod: 0.15
Inertia: 40
Target Subsystems, Senor Analysis, Battle Cloak
Tier 5
Hull: 40,000
Shields: 5800
Shield Mod :1.3
Weapons: 3 Fore, 3 Aft
Crew: 400
BOFF: CDR Science, Lt. CDR Sci, Lt. Engineer, Lt. Tac, Ensign Eng
Devices: 3
Consoles: 4 Sci, 3 Eng, 2 Tac
Turn Rate:14
Impluse Mod: 0.15
Inertia: 40
Sensor Analysis, Cloak, Target Subsystems
I think the name of the two skins should be Apnex and Talvath in honor of the two named ships. Heck, is it not possible that Dr. Telek Remor's ship was the prototype?
Any critiques of my proposal is appreciated.
but it wouldve been coof if the warbirds have a universal boff slot to cover that.
In particular the lack of science vessels (which we know the Romulans have in canon) is a bit annoying.
I think there is room for a whole lot of additional ships, some new and of course a lot of leftovers from before the Hobus event.
Azurian and myself have both designed our own indivadual versions of what an upgraded Romulan D7 might look like (in the recent novels called then Ventarix class) for example.
And such a vessel can easily have its own distinct look and stats without feeling the least like its a ripoff of its Klingon counterpart, especially a higher levels.;)
The D7/K't'inga is a cannon ship from the TOS. I would like to see three versions for the Republic. The original TOS ship at Tier 1, and the upgraded version (with a Romulan Green or Reman Teal paint job) you suggested at both Tier 3 and Tier 5.
edit: romulan D7 deserves a battlecloak too.. I know it wont get one.. but... IT DESEEEEEERVVVVEEees it
cause sometimes its party time!
We know the next Romulan ship will be the Scimitar and it will likely be released in June/July I imagine, so at least they aren't just making us stew in the shadows with no attention.
Thanks, I absolutely, toally didn't know that since I never saw The Original Series, especially not "The Enterprise Incident", where we saw Romulans using this ship
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident_%28episode%29
:rolleyes:*facepalm*
You're no the only person who watches Star Trek, you know...
That's basically what I was talking about.
When we take novels like "The Art of the Impossible" as a basis, the Romulans bought a lot of Klingon ships that were considered outdated by the Empire, which could mean the basic D7. And when we again look at novels like "Serpents mong the Ruins", the ROmulans desingned their own upgrade patterns for them.
Given the Romulans different technology and over one and a half century have passed, the ships would be very different from what the Klingons started out with.
While we can't submit models (the lawyers actually said no), our former Community Manager told us we can always show our ships and ideas in the forums as an inspiration for the DEVs.
So here's my idea for an upgraded Romulan D7 from 2 years ago.
(For a comparison, the first pic shows a regular D7 facing it)
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8552/romuland7r7face2facetop.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5743/romulanr7top.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5849/romulanr7side.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6956/romulanr7front.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1135/romulanr7bottom.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7285/romulanr7003.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7519/romulanr7002.jpg
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4351/romulanr7001.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4108/romulanr7aftview.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2184/romulanr7shuttlebaydeta.jpg
the changes are extensive (impulse engines in the wings, shuttle hangar between twin necks, big guns on the underside) but then the Romulans would have had a lot of time to tinker with them.
A lot fo the changes (given the "Nemesis"-style characteristics would be rather recent and due to the fact that the colonies forming the Rebublic would probably only have access to smaller ships and shipyards to service them.
With Romulus and Remus (and its heavy weapons plants gone) the colonies would need to get the most out fo the ships they have.
Even comparatively small ones while bigger ships would be mostly leftovers from before the Hobus event.
I can understand how annoying that is, have the same issue on the KDF. Both the Romulan and KDF factions need science ships as they allow you to make science officers so they should support that by providing science ships that can be competitive with the Federation ones and allow Science officers to be able to use science ships.
Any more...that's a good one.
The High- and low-res models for the K't'inga have been reversed for over two years now.
Look that NPC K't'ingas in teh distance and you'll see they have far more detail than the one the players get.
It's not like we haven't reported this since several times since Jan 2011.
Since it would be a Romulan conversion...it's very likely the ship would have a battlecloak and some other stats rather different from its Klingon counterpart.;)
I know, that's where the KDF is currently lacking.
That's why I had devised the Klingon version for them...the military scout.
It's basically a science-heavy Raptor doing all the stuff EW units are good at.
Think EF-111 meets AWACS.;)
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/search.php?searchid=65490111
And given the enormous number of people who read the proposal in both threads, I think there's actually a lot of interest in such a concept, meaning people would BUY it, the one thing that usually persuades Cryptic to implement it.;)
True, but a lot of us bought Legacy Packs. That meant that we had actually claimed D'Ridthaus from the C-Store and still had a free T4 ship token available to use. But yes, in that case you'd either have spent 80k dilithium or 1500 Zen (or a Legacy Pack). My Rommie did get a 50k dilithium injection from my Fed to get her going, and even 80k dil isn't hard to come up with for a long established player provided they are annoyed enough to spend it.
Tier 1:
Vas Hathem (TOS) BOP
D7/K't'inga (TOS) Cruiser
T'Varo BOP
Tier 2
Lanora/Talon/Theta Scout (Science ship with Tac focus)
Dhelan/Dhael warbird (Escort with Sci Focus)
(A warbird crusier with a Sci Focus)
Tier 3
Mogai/Valdore Escort Warbird
Ventarix Crusier (stats as a KDF K't'inga)
Talvath/Apnex Science ship from "The Next Phase" (TNG)
Tier 4
D'Deridex Warbird Cruiser
(A Warbird Escort with a Sci Focus)
(A Warbird science ship with a Tac focus)
Tier 5
T'Varo and Fleet T'Varo
Dhelan and Fleet Dhelan
Mogai and Fleet Mogai
D'Deridex and Fleet D'Deridex
Haanoka and Fleet Haanoka
Ha'pax and Fleet Ha'pax
Ha'nom and Fleet Ha'nom
Ha'feh and Fleet Ha'feh
Lanora and Fleet Lanora
Talvath and Fleet Talvath
With the exception of Tier 1, this would give ship variety to allow players to learn how to use the various ship classes. The parentheses is to signify a ship concept that the programmers will have to create unless they are finally given permission to use Romulan ships from other sources.
Plus the fact that it would mean Fed aligned Romulans would have access to a KDF ship pretty much, which they aren't going to allow to happen.
HMMM...where to begin...?
No matter whether Cryptic calls the TOS uniform "22nd century" or not...it's still the 23rd century.
The trade is no THAT long ago.:)
I don't think anyone asked for a KCR, which is the Romulan conversion of the C7...which is an entirely different ship from the D7
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/ctastarfleet/klingon/c7-heavy-battlecruiser.html
And even in SFB the Romulans never got their hands on one. There were only plans for conversion if they ever got one.
From what I can gauge by posts in the forums on this matter, I think this is that one time where no one would actually mind.
Also, while the Fed-aligned Romulans would get the ship, the Feds themselves wouldn't so there's no break there.
And if the ships were made different enough from their Klingon brethren there'd be even less of a problem there.
Example: put the basic Romulan D7 at tier 2 and give it a turnrate of 10 based on the fact it's the basic D7 upgraded with a battlecloak
While the Klingon D7 skin signifies it's an upgraded version that can compete with the more modern K't'inga.
Throw in a battlecloak and you have a cruiser-counterpart to the Dhelan which appears to be one of the first new ships the Romulans designed in the 23rd century making it a conteporary.
A T5 version with for example a turnrate of 10 or 10.5 and an LtC Tac would mean it's also not just a clone of the K't'inga retrofit.
And it would balance out the battlecloak.