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Fleet Marks Nerfed Again!
trekgeektech
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As always... Can't you all just leave well enough alone? With the release of Tholian Rep you have removed the FM awards from Nukara. All that was done since was to put a smattering of marks on a few added PvEs. This is not near the equivalent of what you removed. Nukara was bad enough before but it's totally useless now as it barely rewards any Nukara marks and has a 20 hour cooldown.
FM were added/increased on Nukara to offset the rage generated when you removed them from foundry missions. The rage continued as marks were slow to come by and then you increased them across the board. Now large fleets are tier 5 and small fleets are left to look for scraps of fleet marks. Get it together people!
FM were added/increased on Nukara to offset the rage generated when you removed them from foundry missions. The rage continued as marks were slow to come by and then you increased them across the board. Now large fleets are tier 5 and small fleets are left to look for scraps of fleet marks. Get it together people!
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Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
I really sympathize with the OP as it will also hit my little fleet as well. If we had the choice on Nukara in which reward we could get as is now on Azura Nebula etc then it wouldn't really be an issue. In fact why not extend it to Defera as well as Nukara?
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You can make 1000's fleetmarks like this, get you other marks and dilitium ???
The Nukara-marks are a joke, 18 for a hard mission with 20 hours cooldown.
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Original Join Date: January 30th, 2010
Azura Nebula is a far better reward in general for the time for all marks
Defera Invasion is still the king of fleetmarks; play that and get more for you time than you did on Nukura
If you need a KDF team for Defera, try the channel KDFdefera (any content requiring a KDF-only team also permitted)
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Your kidding right? Well there goes small KDF fleets who needed Nukara to make the marks required as queues in the KDF half the time can't start as there isn't enough players to start them. Great way to frell KDF fleets Cryptic.
I used to enjoy running the Nukara missions for the marks, not the most engrossing or exciting thing, but it didn't take long and was fun at the same time. But instead of getting off your TRIBBLE and making a new zone for Tholian marks you just TRIBBLE the game up more. And I won't even go into the fact that you only gave the KDF 7 new unique missions and the rest were cross more cross faction fluff.
When I think you can't get worse you always prove me wrong. No wonder you added a new faction, only way to keep people interested and playing the game and give yourself a huge influx of cash. :rolleyes:
Azure nebula : With my last breath, I stabeth thee!!!!
Seriously, that has got to be the biggest waste-of-space mission simply due to the fact that it is both time gated AND hard-capped at 18 marks. Utter ****e. Would it really kill them to let the spillover NOT convert to fleet maeks which are much easier to get then rep marks?
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In the time it takes to do azura I was able to solo Medium's on Nuk for the same ammount of FM's, and they have a short enough cool down that I was able to do ext/int repeatedly, unlike Azura where you have to wait to run it again.
@all the "do CXP mission for Fleet marks"
yea thats great for my old klingon that has tons of extra CXP to spend.... But what about my new romulan KDF, or any of the new people that started a KDF after LOR. CXP doesn't really apply to us since it takes MONTHS to get your CXP up high enough to do those missions.... Don't even get my started on the Fleet mark que's for KDF... they might as well not even be an option in the que list, thats how often they get ran on our side.... Or the PvE daily mission for, again, PvE que's that no one runs...
I love the ppl who think that if something does not matter to them then it must not matter at all .
Egocentric much ?
Quite, very much so in fact. So much so that I think your concatenated misintepreted view of my opinion doesn't matter at all.
Are you kidding? CXP is nowhere near as fast for a quick 200 or so FMs as Nukara and Defera were.
I'm a little confused. The only reason you would need fleet marks, is if you're in a fleet. If you're in a fleet, you have the Fleet Alert, Colony Invasion, Starbase Incursion, etc, at your disposal. And it's not like you could do the Nukara hard assignments solo. So that leaves farming the mediums and easies for a half-hourly pittance. And the fleet actions.
I don't know, I guess if you want no one around you that badly, I suppose... But if you're looking to farm fleet marks, Nukara never was the best (or least worst) way of doing it.
edit to clarify: Solo =/= without a fleet consisting of others
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The KDF doesn't have the same population as the Federation so those queues rarely pop. At least with Nukara a player could go there and do the easy and mediums solo and then watch zone for any hard teams and meet up with both faction players and enter the same instance.
This change has really hurt KDF fleets, especially the small ones. They said in one of the blogs or something that they were just removing the reward packs and replacing them with Nukara Marks and leaving the fleet mark rewards. That would have been fine and they could have just thrown the combat Ev suits into a vendor at Nukara or something.
It's the same thing they did with fleet ships, before they came out they said you'll only need a module and it would be a lot cheaper than a c-store ship and we were screwed over with that as well.
Except in the Nukara case, removing fleet marks makes no difference in their profit and only forces people to play the game how they want, rather than the freedom to play it how we want. Not all of us like the Borg (so overused and boring these days, thank god the novels got rid of them) and no longer have any need for Omega marks so Defera isn't all that appealing.
But now we are forced to go there if we want fleet marks and want to continue to develop out bases. :rolleyes:
How long ago did you do this mission? Before going all shakespeare on us try it again...
I did it several times after LoR came out and got 2 choice boxes per mission with box 1: 30 marks and box 2: 3 Marks.
When using the box you get choice for Nukara, Romulan or Fleetmarks... So max would be 33 marks or 38 depending on if you also get 5 bonus fleetmarks after chosing fleetmarks from the box (only chose Nukara marks so far).
Max marks for the vault ensnared is also upped to max 40 (max what I had so far), which depends on if you got all 10 ships saved, destroyed the flagship in the end and a big maybe on how far along the vault weavers were before time end. With my 40 mark reward it was 10 ships saved, 40% ensnared and flagship destroyed. I know for a fact reward is lower when not all ships are saved...
Bring back the Fleet marks as an option on Nukara just like other maps in the game.
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This will make Nukara more valuable for more players, for my feeling only a few players will be on Nukara on the event time to get there daily need for Rep and then leave.
Before S8 i have seen to every day and night time more players, and as soon the need for nukara marks will vanish no one will go more to nukara and it will be another death Y-Class Planet.
I too would love to see Fleet Marks brought back to Nukara.
I enjoyed running the missions there, they were not complicated... gather science reports, destroy scanning devices, save redshirts...
You didn't need anything particular either, except maybe a EV suit, which you would have gotten for free from the 2800 series.
I even, created a Fed engineer captain that was built for Nukara. He could run the two easy and one medium outside missions in less than 30 minutes. Then go inside do one easy and the two medium missions in just over 30 minutes. With that, he could get close to 100 FMs.
When Brandon opened up the May Ask Cryptic thread again, that was this was the first question I asked.
I really do miss having FMs there, otherwise there really is nothing to do there except get Nukara Marks. Why would we need Tholian equipment if you aren't fighting the Tholians?
Sure, you could complete the rep tiers, net your bonuses at the end, but what is after that?