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dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvP Gameplay
there has actually been a ton of tier 2 pvp activity since LoR, and ive got some feedback

-tier 2 cruisers, constitution and k'tonco, are totally uncompetitive. what would make them more balanced against the escorts and war birds is a 3rd fore weapon. their durability is not balanced with the firepower escorts have available, a 3rd weapon is the equalizer. its got the same number of weapons as a sci ship, whats up with that? it ends up having less weapons then the tier 3 cruiser has, and stays 1 weapon ahead of escorts like usual.

-i think you guys forgot to turn on kdf pvp for lower levels, its not an option to select, and they can start from level 1 now.

-low level pvp is actually funner then level cap pvp, because this is not so top heavy in station powers, P2W, cheese, carriers, and escorts dont have 40-60 turn rates, they have 20.


when leveling your new rom, que up as soon as your able!
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  • carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Any idea what level Rommies can get into Ker'rat at? My Somraw needs to feast on the field of battle.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    as soon as your alowed to leave the home sector block i imagine
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited May 2013
    This got mentioned in Tribble yet they did nothing about it. I'm surprised you were able to pvp because the queues are completely broken for me even kvk and Kerrat at tier 1 is dominated by tier 5 romulan warbirds.

    And yes, tier 1-4 PvP is the best PvP in game. Tier 5 is an absolute joke.
  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's true. When Free2Play went live i spent the first few weeks in the low-level queues with a friend kf mine slaughtering everything that came near us. Level them up to 40, pull off all the white gear and dilithium, restart.
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  • carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    as soon as your alowed to leave the home sector block i imagine
    That's what I assumed too, but flying to Ker'rat gives me no interact option. I tried getting in after doing the mission that send you to Alhena (at least, I think it's there... it's the place with the repair station that's also used for the "collect 10 computer core fragments from the Deuterium daily and get a bonus mission")
  • aldo1rainealdo1raine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lowbie pvp is haxcellent.
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  • zarathos1978zarathos1978 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    -tier 2 cruisers, constitution and k'tonco, are totally uncompetitive. what would make them more balanced against the escorts and war birds is a 3rd fore weapon. their durability is not balanced with the firepower escorts have available

    Really? I Low-PvP since S7 go live and never had lot of issues with t2 cruiser. More trouble with t3 when escorts got upped with Alpha 3 and get slot Omega but cruisers still lack enough BOFF slots and hull to work against it.

    Meh, but its me.
    when leveling your new rom, que up as soon as your able!

    NO. If you are levelin a Rom, go away. Please queue with Fed or Klink. Roms - go somewhere else. There is nice and juicy PvE for you.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Really? I Low-PvP since S7 go live and never had lot of issues with t2 cruiser. More trouble with t3 when escorts got upped with Alpha 3 and get slot Omega but cruisers still lack enough BOFF slots and hull to work against it.

    Meh, but its me.



    NO. If you are levelin a Rom, go away. Please queue with Fed or Klink. Roms - go somewhere else. There is nice and juicy PvE for you.

    i can take on 2 or 3 connies and win easily. 1 more array from each of them would give me more trouble though for sure. also, romulans are about 75% of low level pvp right now. not sure why people would be making new feds now, they got nothing new to make new characters for with LoR
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited May 2013
    I can usually take on 4 with an raptor or escort, that actually may just be player skill. However I do believe the Dhelan is much stronger than both the Raptor and Escort making both those ships kind of obsolete.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    vitzh wrote: »
    I can usually take on 4 with an raptor or escort, that actually may just be player skill. However I do believe the Dhelan is much stronger than both the Raptor and Escort making both those ships kind of obsolete.

    the +1 dhelan is a monster. a LT tac and 2 ENS sci and 2 ens eng. well, theres a universal ENS in there, but i would use it for ens. damage control doffs for 2 different EPt skills, i choose engines and weapons at this low level, and a HE and ST for heals. CRF and THY for offense, it can kill anything in a decloak alpha, fly circles around everything, and those modest heals with quantum absorption let me solo 3 or 4 people, without even battle cloaking

    all the escorts at this level are overpowered though compared to the cruisers. them haveing 1 more fore weapon would help quite a bit with that.
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited May 2013
    Yeah. Just had a fight with one in an escort. He lost badly and had to rely on two cruisers to help him escape! XD But that thing out-turned me so damn well and should have outtanked.

    Problem with FvK queues is that it doesn't say who's on each side at the moment. Absolutely nuts.
  • zarathos1978zarathos1978 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Constitition is not ment to be offensive ship. It's pure tank/supporter. If someone is trying to do damage with it - he is doing it wrong. If he got good pilot, Connie should be able to tank anything while healing people from time to time. If someone invest in Exeter then it's flying Red-cross bunker. It would not kill you, but it should not die to you.


    But then maybe LoR screwed up with this too.
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited May 2013
    o.O? Sorry but Connie can be a Tank/Damage dealer and a pretty mean one to if flown right. If all they can do is tank and heal with it, I'd say they are flying it wrong :P
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I love low level PvP.

    Back when I first started rolling Klingons, I tried to level them through PvP.

    Awesome ****. Mainly cos it would be the same dudes over and over, so we would build some chemistry. We had some really great fights with other Feds.
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  • zarathos1978zarathos1978 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Sorry but Connie can be a Tank/Damage dealer and a pretty mean one to if flown right. If all they can do is tank and heal with it, I'd say they are flying it wrong

    Yeah, but in this case they are dying faster then doing damage. Makes them rather useless :P
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Constitition is not ment to be offensive ship. It's pure tank/supporter. If someone is trying to do damage with it - he is doing it wrong. If he got good pilot, Connie should be able to tank anything while healing people from time to time. If someone invest in Exeter then it's flying Red-cross bunker. It would not kill you, but it should not die to you.


    But then maybe LoR screwed up with this too.

    thats complete BS. even if a ship wanted to support, theres not enough station powers to do it. all a tier 2 cruiiser has is a LT and ENS eng, or from the c store 2 LT eng. thats enough to have good EPt coverage, and a hull heal maybe. point is your not sporting anything, but you can tank better then the escorts at that level. not well enough to shrug off any escort at that level doing a CRF+THY attack on 1 of your shield facings though, theres next to nothing any ship at that level can do to survive that, unless they use maybe thier only tac station for TT. but that can interfere with ET. BUT, escorts cant do that half as often at this level. the sci ship has better access to useful team heals. at low level pvp, theres none of this star ships healing each other TRIBBLE, they are all damage dealers with strengths and weaknesses in offense and defense. thats what this game should be.

    the defensiveness in the tier 2 cruiser, with its offensive capability, results in a sum total of ability thats far below the durability and offense capabilty total the escorts have. 1 additional forward weapon on the cruisers, that only have 1 ENS tac station, would be an equalizer.
  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited May 2013
    Yeah, but in this case they are dying faster then doing damage. Makes them rather useless :P

    What's the loadout you have in mind on a T2 Connie? I guarantee you they can tank and do loads of damage while shrugging off a lot of punishment provided they are flown and setup right. Although in honesty I prefer the science vessel over T2 Cruiser, I feel I should point out that everything needs a buff to stand more of a chance against the T2 Warbird(s) otherwise it should get a nerf.
  • murmurhem187murmurhem187 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd say low level PvP is only slightly better than max level. If their is no cstore stuff involved it can be a lot of fun.

    But as a KDF Cmdr you can sit in a cstore raptor and take on a 5 man normal ship team. Within one volley of fire I can tell if its a cstore ship or not, if it's not the guy is going down quick. I sat in kerrat and got 8 kills before the 12 feds firing at me finally took me down.

    Low level can be fun, but really its worse off balance wise than max level. That's just FvK idk about adding a R in the mix

    I'm still waiting for the game to tell my rommy PvP is in the game
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  • osorenashiyaosorenashiya Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm a lvl 10 KDF, where and how do I PVP? I checked the queues and there was only one space KvK and there was only 4 people in it waiting...
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm a lvl 10 KDF, where and how do I PVP? I checked the queues and there was only one space KvK and there was only 4 people in it waiting...

    they turned kdf pvp off at low levels because they started at 20 befor. they did not re enable low level pvp for them. so surprised.
  • carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm a lvl 10 KDF, where and how do I PVP? I checked the queues and there was only one space KvK and there was only 4 people in it waiting...
    Fly to Ker'rat (Eta Eridani block). You may need to be level 20 though.
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