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bareel
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Omega reputation works very well as a progression system because of it's design.
Step 1) Partake in content to gain the marks. You can choose the difficulty level based upon your current gear and overall game knowledge/skill. This is the grind or progression portion.
Step 2) Complete the grind and acquire the gear reward(s). During this phase you can easily see the difficulty of the content become lowered due to the innate high plasma resist of your new ship shields or the capability to instantly remodulate on the ground.
Step 3) Farm the content for further rewards. Even by using soley PuGs elite STFs are still my best source of dilithium with active play. This is made even better when I have all that shiney gear to make the content easier/faster.
So we have progression, gearing up, and we end with farming. Does this sound familiar to anyone with previous MMO/RPG experience? It should as it forms the basic style or design of endgame systems. Granted STO is much more casual about it's implementation but the overall style remains the same, atleast so far as omega reputation goes.
Romulan reputation is a different beast. It is primarily styled as a story progression and more for those who care about lore, space bunny tagging, and accolade hunting. That is fine as it is not really my style but to each their own.
Now enter Tholian reputation. At first I assumed (mistakenly) it would follow one of those two paths. It does not. It is simply tacked on and adds nothing to the endgame aside from another form of progression one must grind. This disappoints me because it has such potential.
Option 1: Restore the fleet marks to Nukara. Their are two different versions of EV ground suits you can get from the reputation but once you get them what is the point of having them? If the fleet marks are restored to the Nukara rewards then they will serve a purpose of increasing the speed/efficiency/whatever of gaining fleet marks on Nukara.
Option 2: Tweak the space set to be highly effective against the Crystaline Entity. Perhaps it will be an alternative farming option to ESTFs for dilithium if this is done. Built in anti-proton resist would be a start.
If neither of these are done all Tholian Reputation will be is a stupid grind/progression that players will do solely for the purpose of getting to the end of it and it will add nothing of note to increase the amount of 'endgame' in STO. Instead it simply expands the amount of progression inside the game. Hope this makes some sense.
Step 1) Partake in content to gain the marks. You can choose the difficulty level based upon your current gear and overall game knowledge/skill. This is the grind or progression portion.
Step 2) Complete the grind and acquire the gear reward(s). During this phase you can easily see the difficulty of the content become lowered due to the innate high plasma resist of your new ship shields or the capability to instantly remodulate on the ground.
Step 3) Farm the content for further rewards. Even by using soley PuGs elite STFs are still my best source of dilithium with active play. This is made even better when I have all that shiney gear to make the content easier/faster.
So we have progression, gearing up, and we end with farming. Does this sound familiar to anyone with previous MMO/RPG experience? It should as it forms the basic style or design of endgame systems. Granted STO is much more casual about it's implementation but the overall style remains the same, atleast so far as omega reputation goes.
Romulan reputation is a different beast. It is primarily styled as a story progression and more for those who care about lore, space bunny tagging, and accolade hunting. That is fine as it is not really my style but to each their own.
Now enter Tholian reputation. At first I assumed (mistakenly) it would follow one of those two paths. It does not. It is simply tacked on and adds nothing to the endgame aside from another form of progression one must grind. This disappoints me because it has such potential.
Option 1: Restore the fleet marks to Nukara. Their are two different versions of EV ground suits you can get from the reputation but once you get them what is the point of having them? If the fleet marks are restored to the Nukara rewards then they will serve a purpose of increasing the speed/efficiency/whatever of gaining fleet marks on Nukara.
Option 2: Tweak the space set to be highly effective against the Crystaline Entity. Perhaps it will be an alternative farming option to ESTFs for dilithium if this is done. Built in anti-proton resist would be a start.
If neither of these are done all Tholian Reputation will be is a stupid grind/progression that players will do solely for the purpose of getting to the end of it and it will add nothing of note to increase the amount of 'endgame' in STO. Instead it simply expands the amount of progression inside the game. Hope this makes some sense.
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For PVE, doesnt matter so much.
By the time you gain the rewards from Nukara Strike Force Reputation (Space Set and/or EV Sets) you no longer have any use for them. They do not help you farm anything at all.
Conversely the Omega Reputation gear (Maco Space Set FTW) helps you run ESTFs faster and easier to farm purple rocks. Their is a purpose at least to getting the gear.
The Nukara gear is all a waste. It does not help you farm fleet marks on Nukara, they are not there anymore. It does not help you farm purple rock from the Crystal space monster, other gear is far superior for doing that. Aside from another free +5 power from the uni console anyway. This is a complete and total waste. What on earth does one do with a fancy EV set? Nothing.
You have too much faith in them. The experimental warp core doff assignment has a slight TRIBBLE up in the 3rd and 4th slot which I reported. Then I looked at the other experimental building assignments which are much older and discovered they also have TRIBBLE ups (Ex. require sci doff but success on an engineering doff). Some bugs never go away.
Omega and Rom rep offer me things in tier five that I want. Costume unlocks in the former and a flamethrower that I'm still waiting for in the latter.
And I do appreciate the way the rep system takes randomness out of the equation and turns these things into goals that I can make very clear progress toward. I don't mind the time-gating too much as I don't plan to stop playing. Would be nice if hypos, shield charges, and regenerators stacked to 250 like commodities, though.
Omega gives you costumes and duty officers.
New Rom has vanity items and reinforcements.
Nukara doesn't really have anything that says "Here I am, come boost your Strikeforce Rep and get me!"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
"Ohz noes, t3h BORG r back!"
"Okay, what do we do?!"
"Well, we have all these cool new weapons and gadgets and stolen tech we can use against them..."
"Okay, great, I'll take them!"
"Not so fast. You have to stop the Borg 500 times before we give you any of it."
"Wait, you're going to send me to fight the Borg to get the gear I need to defeat the Borg?"
"Yup."
"... >_<"
Double Edged Sword.
While it does provide access others didn't, it also creates a problem that after people completed their reputations, they don't return. Just look at the STF channels, they are empty, when they use to be highly active.
But it was better to wait months for certain STF gear. It took me literally 10 months before I finished my first set.
I preferred the old way too. you could get the mk xi very easily, and mk xii was kind of like a vanity item, that you did not really need, you just wanted it. all they needed to do. they could have easily solved the problem with adding datachip requirements for the elite stuff. but then they could not get so many dilithium sinks in :S plus they would not have a timegate, that forces new players to return every day to fill in stuff, making their stats look nicer
while I appreciate the fact that now you definately get the gear you might want, the intentions and execution is shady
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
How else were they going to motivate people to spend money on zen to convert into dilithium to pay for those ridiculously amped up item costs?
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