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chameleone2
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I was just thinking that it would help cruisers be more "tanky" if they had some innate bonus resistance.
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Sounds good to me, my Engineer would appreciate his ship having an innate +5% Resist All.
Because more hull points don't act like resistances?
I have another suggestion if hull superiority isn't to your liking.
What if they gave cruisers more engineering console slots than the other ships out there. So that the cruiser could actually equip more armor than any other ship? That would give it far more resistance potential than, say, a science ship?
!!!!! ALSO !!!! Which is better, a Star Cruiser or Assault Cruiser? I would think a Star Cruiser because of the higher Crew Compliment. am I right?
Quantum torpedoes are superior to photon torpedoes in a cruiser since their higher base damage and longer cooldowns fit in better with the reduced mobility and greater emphasis on broadsides of cruisers. That would be nice... if it weren't for the number of Escorts that run 4 Engineering consoles as well. (JHAS, JHHEC, Steamrunner, Charal, Fleet Patrol Escort, Fleet Qin)
In MMOs, having a giant fat pool of HP means nothing if you're not resistant to any damage.
Stacking 4 Mk12 Blue Neutroniums, with maxed Armor/Hull Reinforcement skills, AND having all of the damage soaking Accolades with maxed Threat Control (It adds some resistance), gets you around 48% Resistance to everything, so I'm knocking off about half of the damage done to my hull.
Say a JHDC (What is it, 60k hull or so?) with 0% Resistance gets hit with a 60k torp on bare hull, that JHDC goes pop.
An Escort with around 40k hull with 50% Resistance gets hit with a 60k torp on bare hull, it gets mitigated to around 30k, so the Escort still has about 10k left.
My Regent doesn't hang around because it has 8k more health then an Escort, it hangs around because it has, and I'm guessing, more then 20% Resistance then an Escort.
My Fleet Galaxy (Yeah my Engineer has one) slots those 4 Mk12 Blue Neutroniums and 1 Mk11 Blue and gets over 50% Resistance *on top of* the massive health pool.
My suggestion would be to give a cruiser FIVE engineering consoles. Combine that extra armor potential with higher hull and I bet that kind of cruiser would have a tanking advantage?
Basically an extra free engineering console? I'd suggest also giving cruisers an inherent bonus resist multiplier modifier (same type of thing as the ship shield modifier that already exists).
We have shield modifiers, why not resistance modifiers?
Escorts get 0.8, science 1.0 and cruisers 1.2 times whatever resistances are stacked via consoles......
For a Tier 5 ship
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It would be nice if pressure dps were worthwhile, oh and if a cruiser could apply pressure dps without having to be built solely for it.
Now, keep in ming the rcs changes are going to make your cruiser turn a little better. So you may find that certaain tactics that were once useless are now doable.
But in general DPS is king and the cruiser usualy amounts to an annoying tickle.
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That is exactly what I did. I have currently three hull reinforcements in place and that works great!
Pretty sure 3 neutromiums would out perform that, seeing as its resists all energy and kinetic.
2 neuts resists as well as an energy specific armor (one that only resists 2 energy types) and a monotanium, with the benefit of providing this resistance across all damage types.
so for a 3rd perhaps a neut isn't going to give you the greatest numbers but will provide the most bonuses.
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Devs have said that increasing cruiser DPS is dead horse territory, and with a recent interview indicating that the armour slot idea has been shelved, increasing their resilience is also dead horse territory.
Since cruisers already tank great, why not give them something that works like taunt in other MMOs so they have snap aggro. And can pull aggro from enemies at will.
Thus making that durability have value in PvE?
Something like Kirk's "I'm laughing at the 'superior intellect'"? That would be a Captain ability, not based on ship. And by precedent (Draw Fire), it would be a Tactical Captain ability to boot.
It's starting to get into game mechanics that feel very forced, and in any case 9 ranks of Starship Threat Generation, a [+Th] console or two, and APDelta with the Duty Officer can pull threat pretty damn quickly.
having lots of HP means you can SOAK damage.
RESISTING damage and ignoring it completely is what 'TANK'ing actually means. just because mmo-derps have miss-appropriated the term and continue to apply the term incorrectly, doesn't make it so.
so in sto terms, let's say an engi cruiser with lotsa engi slots, all full of plasma resist armour and plasma resst shields, can tank some plasma damage. but the ship having lots of hull points, combined with the HoT abilities etc of science and engi boffs, allows SOAKING damage, the ability to absorb punishment and recover from it.
but actual TANK-ing comes from ability to ignore damage altogether.
which doesn't happen in any mmo at all. soaking is the closest you'll get to true tanking.