Now it wasnt until the mission 'Installation 18' where the Elachi pokes his head into the camera when youre viewing the sealed rooms that it clicked where i had seen them before.
If anyone has seen the episode ST:ENT - 'Silent Enemy' then you should recognise these...
Now it wasnt until the mission 'Installation 18' where the Elachi pokes his head into the camera when youre viewing the sealed rooms that it clicked where i had seen them before.
If anyone has seen the episode ST:ENT - 'Silent Enemy' then you should recognise these...
Sat and discussed this with my better half and some members of the fleet a few days after the first images of the new "bad guys" was released by Cryptic.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Sat and discussed this with my better half and some members of the fleet a few days after the first images of the new "bad guys" was released by Cryptic.
Good job on finding those images
Sneaky Cryptic, i cant remember if they're in any other episode other than Silent Enemy..
Several of us deduced this after seeing the 2nd half of the LoR during the open beta test weekend.
Somewhere in the Tribble forums there's a thread.
Kinda cool that CBS let Cryptic name them.
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Yeah they are, tacofangs confirmed they are the guys that the NX01 have a encounter with in silent enemies. Took them long enough to get over their embarassment at getting blown up by the NX.
Yeah they are, tacofangs confirmed they are the guys that the NX01 have a encounter with in silent enemies. Took them long enough to get over their embarassment at getting blown up by the NX.
Taco's text was black and if you highlight it all he said was:
asgpkawepa pakg epa l lawe ;awe ka ;w!!!
I wouldn't call that "confirmation" of anything. Edit: I did look through all the pages in that thread and that 1 post by Taco was the only dev post in the thread.
I will admit there is a striking resemblance between the aliens in that Enterprise episode and Elechi in the game.
I think the reason thy look differint between ENT & TNG is because in Nex Gen they are wearing Robes with hoods maybe at lease
They are not 'exactly' the same...
Everyone is speculating that they 'could' be the same...
Cryptic is being 'cryptic' as usual, about it.
We've never heard from the Berman & Braga Folks (the creators of both aliens) as to whether they "ARE" the same...
... but it's a good possibility.
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sorry, it been awhile trying to remember what I had watched.
I do think Voyager did encounter "other" species that used same tech.
don't know if Harry Kim or 7 of 9 (jerri ryan) save a day for the crew, or one of insane ex-crew just single handed because his mind was unstable and knows something isn't right.
sorry, it been awhile trying to remember what I had watched.
I do think Voyager did encounter "other" species that used same tech.
don't know if Harry Kim or 7 of 9 (jerri ryan) save a day for the crew, or one of insane ex-crew just single handed because his mind was unstable and knows something isn't right.
That kinda describes half of Voyager's episodes.:)
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Tell me, what did Enterprise do wrong that TOS didn't?
It didn't randomly kill off a major character in the last episode for no reason whatsoever.
It didn't feature a 'pansy' captain who whined all the time (Kirk just got on with it)
It didn't create a fascinating species/story arc (Suliban) then just drop it unsatisfactorily.
It didn't end its run with a ridiculous chef called Riker.
Although the acting in TOS was very corny, alot of the acting in ENT made you cringe.
Can you imagine Kirk throwing a hissy fit over his dog like Archer? (again, cringe)
And finally, TOS actually made an effort to do something original, ENT had the opportunity to do this aswel, instead it just rehashed the same TOS/TNG storylines.
Tell me, what did Enterprise do wrong that TOS didn't?
It didn't get canceled a half-season earlier. :P
Honestly, I liked it. I even liked Bakula getting the role as captain. Flox became a favorite of mine very early. And despite a few "look the other way" moments *Cough*borg*cough* was pretty grand to me.
Not like they haven't boffed their own cannon with steel wool and razorblades on several occasions: Zephram Cochrane, "Relics", Borg Collective->Hive, The amazing shape-changing Emotion Chip, The Doctors "Now I have it-Now I don't" backup,...Janeway, and the list goes on, so I see no reason to slap it aside.
Good call on the race though. I was also of a mind that it was a possibility.
"We don't have time to negotiate in a civilized way... Destroy them!"
"Captains log: I can take up a holding pattern while engineering locates the source of this malfunction, but this area is known to be a frequent destination of pirates. If we are detected by enemy ships, we won't be able to defend ourselves."
They have 0 relation to the race in Schisms. You only need 1 look to realise that.
And Enterprise was fantastic Archer/Bakula were excellent, it was a good crew with a good cast. and the stories got better every year.
People that complain about the borg ep are just too dumb to realise the connection to First Contact. (Some reasoning ability helps here)
And seriously anyone who complains about Enterprise yet watches that JJ Abrams TRIBBLE is no true Star Trek fan at all.
What a joke. Can Branflakes close this thread please?
Enterprise was a great series. Ended too soon if you ask me. As far as Abram's Star Trek. It's a alternate timeline folks. Things are GOING to be just a bit different there, that's what happens with alternate timelines. I think the movies are great as they are.
Hell, I wish they would do a new alternate timeline 5 year exploration series. Of course it would probably only last 2 1/2 years before something major comes up. I wonder what the Borg are like in this timeline. I wonder what would happen if the Borg somehow assimilated this timeline's Kahn...
It didn't randomly kill off a major character in the last episode for no reason whatsoever. TOS never got a finale, so we may never know....
It didn't feature a 'pansy' captain who whined all the time (Kirk just got on with it) No, that privilege belonged to Dr. McCoy, who was one of the biggest hypochondriacs in starfleet and brought along for his "Color" on every away mission.
It didn't create a fascinating species/story arc (Suliban) then just drop it unsatisfactorily. Gorn, Tholians
It didn't end its run with a ridiculous chef called Riker. No, it ended with a lecherous captain named Kirk.
Although the acting in TOS was very corny, alot of the acting in ENT made you cringe. Viewed Side-by-side, we will just have to disagree on this one.
Can you imagine Kirk throwing a hissy fit over his dog like Archer? (again, cringe) I watched Kirk throw many hissy-fits in TOS... You may have mistook them for seizures.
And finally, TOS actually made an effort to do something original, ENT had the opportunity to do this aswel, instead it just rehashed the same TOS/TNG storylines. If ENT got any more original, they would have had to call it something else. I think they did the best they could without totally wrecking continuity, But I will go on record as saying I have no idea why they thought it would be a good idea to go backwards instead of taking bolder steps forward.
For Posterity, I want to state that I in no way mean any ill will with the above comments. They are more tongue-in-cheek than an attempt to berate one trek over another. I love em all, no matter what problems they had. And lets face it... They ALL had their issues.
"We don't have time to negotiate in a civilized way... Destroy them!"
"Captains log: I can take up a holding pattern while engineering locates the source of this malfunction, but this area is known to be a frequent destination of pirates. If we are detected by enemy ships, we won't be able to defend ourselves."
To OP. nice find. I did the mission where they showed just the feet and i then knew they are revealing something we've seen before.
To ironmastodon. Im with you. I love em all. They all had their issues but all also had their moments. And archer was a good captain and ha to make decisions without a point of reference.(prime directive) They did a good job showing his development on that.
And all of it is star trek. Even the jj verse which i also love. It all looks and feels trek. And it gets boring reading all of this hyperbolic garbage about how shows or movies "destroyed" trek.
Now it wasnt until the mission 'Installation 18' where the Elachi pokes his head into the camera when youre viewing the sealed rooms that it clicked where i had seen them before.
If anyone has seen the episode ST:ENT - 'Silent Enemy' then you should recognise these...
Here's a huge group of newbs unsuccessfully trying to defeat a small group of Elachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oarRwYSVa8
You can see the noxious gas emitter in that one
Notice how the smaller Elachi are in a 5-man formation
And finally, TOS actually made an effort to do something original, ENT had the opportunity to do this aswel, instead it just rehashed the same TOS/TNG storylines.
It was a prequel series that explored humanity's early days of space exploration. It depicted the origins of the Federation. It did a lot of stuff TOS never attempted, like the Xindi arc.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
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Sat and discussed this with my better half and some members of the fleet a few days after the first images of the new "bad guys" was released by Cryptic.
Good job on finding those images
Sig by my better half.
Even though they look almost nothing alike?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
The Cardassin mission they get taken away the same way Riker does http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060617151653/memoryalpha/en/images/2/27/Riker_abducted.jpg
Also there are texts that say people had their arms amputated and reattached
Sneaky Cryptic, i cant remember if they're in any other episode other than Silent Enemy..
Somewhere in the Tribble forums there's a thread.
Kinda cool that CBS let Cryptic name them.
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http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=670241&page=2
You mean this post from that page on that thread? http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=9891331&postcount=14
Taco's text was black and if you highlight it all he said was:
I wouldn't call that "confirmation" of anything. Edit: I did look through all the pages in that thread and that 1 post by Taco was the only dev post in the thread.
I will admit there is a striking resemblance between the aliens in that Enterprise episode and Elechi in the game.
They are not 'exactly' the same...
Everyone is speculating that they 'could' be the same...
Cryptic is being 'cryptic' as usual, about it.
We've never heard from the Berman & Braga Folks (the creators of both aliens) as to whether they "ARE" the same...
... but it's a good possibility.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Could be the two species are using the same type of Subspace technology.
Enterprise was the best.
I do think Voyager did encounter "other" species that used same tech.
don't know if Harry Kim or 7 of 9 (jerri ryan) save a day for the crew, or one of insane ex-crew just single handed because his mind was unstable and knows something isn't right.
That kinda describes half of Voyager's episodes.:)
-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ
:P
You're not gonna hold him down no more and you're not gonna change his mind.
He's got faith.
Tell me, what did Enterprise do wrong that TOS didn't?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
It didn't randomly kill off a major character in the last episode for no reason whatsoever.
It didn't feature a 'pansy' captain who whined all the time (Kirk just got on with it)
It didn't create a fascinating species/story arc (Suliban) then just drop it unsatisfactorily.
It didn't end its run with a ridiculous chef called Riker.
Although the acting in TOS was very corny, alot of the acting in ENT made you cringe.
Can you imagine Kirk throwing a hissy fit over his dog like Archer? (again, cringe)
And finally, TOS actually made an effort to do something original, ENT had the opportunity to do this aswel, instead it just rehashed the same TOS/TNG storylines.
It didn't get canceled a half-season earlier. :P
Honestly, I liked it. I even liked Bakula getting the role as captain. Flox became a favorite of mine very early. And despite a few "look the other way" moments *Cough*borg*cough* was pretty grand to me.
Not like they haven't boffed their own cannon with steel wool and razorblades on several occasions: Zephram Cochrane, "Relics", Borg Collective->Hive, The amazing shape-changing Emotion Chip, The Doctors "Now I have it-Now I don't" backup,...Janeway, and the list goes on, so I see no reason to slap it aside.
Good call on the race though. I was also of a mind that it was a possibility.
"Captains log: I can take up a holding pattern while engineering locates the source of this malfunction, but this area is known to be a frequent destination of pirates. If we are detected by enemy ships, we won't be able to defend ourselves."
And Enterprise was fantastic Archer/Bakula were excellent, it was a good crew with a good cast. and the stories got better every year.
People that complain about the borg ep are just too dumb to realise the connection to First Contact. (Some reasoning ability helps here)
And seriously anyone who complains about Enterprise yet watches that JJ Abrams TRIBBLE is no true Star Trek fan at all.
What a joke. Can Branflakes close this thread please?
So you had your say and now you want it closed? bit childish
Enterprise was a great series. Ended too soon if you ask me. As far as Abram's Star Trek. It's a alternate timeline folks. Things are GOING to be just a bit different there, that's what happens with alternate timelines. I think the movies are great as they are.
Hell, I wish they would do a new alternate timeline 5 year exploration series. Of course it would probably only last 2 1/2 years before something major comes up. I wonder what the Borg are like in this timeline. I wonder what would happen if the Borg somehow assimilated this timeline's Kahn...
TOS never got a finale, so we may never know....
It didn't feature a 'pansy' captain who whined all the time (Kirk just got on with it)
No, that privilege belonged to Dr. McCoy, who was one of the biggest hypochondriacs in starfleet and brought along for his "Color" on every away mission.
It didn't create a fascinating species/story arc (Suliban) then just drop it unsatisfactorily.
Gorn, Tholians
It didn't end its run with a ridiculous chef called Riker.
No, it ended with a lecherous captain named Kirk.
Although the acting in TOS was very corny, alot of the acting in ENT made you cringe.
Viewed Side-by-side, we will just have to disagree on this one.
Can you imagine Kirk throwing a hissy fit over his dog like Archer? (again, cringe)
I watched Kirk throw many hissy-fits in TOS... You may have mistook them for seizures.
And finally, TOS actually made an effort to do something original, ENT had the opportunity to do this aswel, instead it just rehashed the same TOS/TNG storylines.
If ENT got any more original, they would have had to call it something else. I think they did the best they could without totally wrecking continuity, But I will go on record as saying I have no idea why they thought it would be a good idea to go backwards instead of taking bolder steps forward.
For Posterity, I want to state that I in no way mean any ill will with the above comments. They are more tongue-in-cheek than an attempt to berate one trek over another. I love em all, no matter what problems they had. And lets face it... They ALL had their issues.
"Captains log: I can take up a holding pattern while engineering locates the source of this malfunction, but this area is known to be a frequent destination of pirates. If we are detected by enemy ships, we won't be able to defend ourselves."
To ironmastodon. Im with you. I love em all. They all had their issues but all also had their moments. And archer was a good captain and ha to make decisions without a point of reference.(prime directive) They did a good job showing his development on that.
And all of it is star trek. Even the jj verse which i also love. It all looks and feels trek. And it gets boring reading all of this hyperbolic garbage about how shows or movies "destroyed" trek.
Nooo no no... HERE are the Elachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5p5e1Gr3Tk
Your resemblance is only about 90%... mine is dead on 100%
Kirk encountered them too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bShFjFcN0ko&NR=1
Here's a huge group of newbs unsuccessfully trying to defeat a small group of Elachi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oarRwYSVa8
You can see the noxious gas emitter in that one
Notice how the smaller Elachi are in a 5-man formation
Okay, I'll give you that one. But you can't condemn the whole series because of that one episode.
He told a Klingon to go to hell. Never saw Kirk do that.
At least it had story arcs.
I already addressed that episode; see above.
So they're both guilty of bad acting.
Honestly, yes.
It was a prequel series that explored humanity's early days of space exploration. It depicted the origins of the Federation. It did a lot of stuff TOS never attempted, like the Xindi arc.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone