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Klingons: a question.
istvaanshogaatsu
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I've played STO since... November of last year, I believe. I first got into Kerrat by December.
Since that time, I've learned to recognize and accept an utterly undeniable and inarguable fact:
ALL THE BEST PVPERS IN STO ARE KLINGONS.
If you even attempt to dispute this, you're an idiot.
So... here's my question to all you fine Klingon PVPers; it is a question I have asked of Buh'ong, the Klink PVPer I possibly respect most of all of you, due to being unable to murder him, and his murdering of my self quite frequently:
Why are you guys still beating up on the team of ******* who don't know how to push buttons or defend themselves?
Honestly.
The quality disparity between Feds and Klinks is like a giant chasm. Klinks know how to cross-repair, Feds hoard their reps to themselves. Klinks know how to plan ambushes, Feds know how to... kill borg repair hulks, and that's about it.
Klinks are SO, SO MUCH BETTER AT PVP THAN FEDS, it's not even funny. It's like a no-holds-barred octagon match between Jet Li and Stephen Hawking.
Again, my question, reiterated: Why do you Klingons keep playing as Klingons, when it's obvious that Klingons are the best PVPers around?
You will face far more *challenge* and *difficulty* fighting AGAINST Klingons... so... why do you stay on the winning team content to harvest meaningless victories against INCOMPETENT opponents (the Feds, if that wasn't clear) when you could be scoring rewarding victories as a Fed against Klinks who are, on average, more skilled and effective than you are?
Klinks; do you honestly feel challenged, fighting the Feds in this game?
NO.
I didn't think you did.
Because I have felt what you have felt. In Kerrat, I have sometimes been moved to the Klink team.
Do you know what that feels like?
It's like being pulled off the front line of a very vicious war against a very skilled enemy, and suddenly being asked to beat some defenseless babies to death. Maybe some puppies with one leg, too.
That is what Fed pilots are, for the most part. Defenseless, pathetic babies. Maybe, MAYBE, 10% of them know to fight back. Maybe, MAAAAYBE, half of that 10% knows how to actually kill you.
Which brings up again, the question I asked previously:
Why are you Klinks still beating up on the defenseless incompetents of STO? Shouldn't you find a more challenging quarry?
Since that time, I've learned to recognize and accept an utterly undeniable and inarguable fact:
ALL THE BEST PVPERS IN STO ARE KLINGONS.
If you even attempt to dispute this, you're an idiot.
So... here's my question to all you fine Klingon PVPers; it is a question I have asked of Buh'ong, the Klink PVPer I possibly respect most of all of you, due to being unable to murder him, and his murdering of my self quite frequently:
Why are you guys still beating up on the team of ******* who don't know how to push buttons or defend themselves?
Honestly.
The quality disparity between Feds and Klinks is like a giant chasm. Klinks know how to cross-repair, Feds hoard their reps to themselves. Klinks know how to plan ambushes, Feds know how to... kill borg repair hulks, and that's about it.
Klinks are SO, SO MUCH BETTER AT PVP THAN FEDS, it's not even funny. It's like a no-holds-barred octagon match between Jet Li and Stephen Hawking.
Again, my question, reiterated: Why do you Klingons keep playing as Klingons, when it's obvious that Klingons are the best PVPers around?
You will face far more *challenge* and *difficulty* fighting AGAINST Klingons... so... why do you stay on the winning team content to harvest meaningless victories against INCOMPETENT opponents (the Feds, if that wasn't clear) when you could be scoring rewarding victories as a Fed against Klinks who are, on average, more skilled and effective than you are?
Klinks; do you honestly feel challenged, fighting the Feds in this game?
NO.
I didn't think you did.
Because I have felt what you have felt. In Kerrat, I have sometimes been moved to the Klink team.
Do you know what that feels like?
It's like being pulled off the front line of a very vicious war against a very skilled enemy, and suddenly being asked to beat some defenseless babies to death. Maybe some puppies with one leg, too.
That is what Fed pilots are, for the most part. Defenseless, pathetic babies. Maybe, MAYBE, 10% of them know to fight back. Maybe, MAAAAYBE, half of that 10% knows how to actually kill you.
Which brings up again, the question I asked previously:
Why are you Klinks still beating up on the defenseless incompetents of STO? Shouldn't you find a more challenging quarry?
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As to why those guys do not want to go back to flying a Fed ship, that's easy, once you fly a KDF ship there's no going back. Come over to the Red side and you will understand. Once you discover the heady joys of cloak and ambush and actually teamwork you can never again sit in a saucer shaped ship. Its very very very frustrating to be on a team full of Fed newbies who don't have a clue, I find myself wishing I could target my own teammates.
KDF is where I belong. It's what I identify with. As for the pickings in Ker'rat, it varies. Sometimes competent players roll through and we can have a glorious battle out of it, battle that's better than the stale, boring arena and C+H queue system. My only wish is that we had more kill missions and other things that could be accomplished within Ker'rat, and that Ker'rat be fixed.
But I agree, KDF has a better PvP contingent on average, though the Federation has more premades/elite PvP fleets. KDF operates on a more pugmade basis, and we usually do well enough.
Yeah, Ker'rat has hardly changed since it was first implemented. KDF is normally outnumbered or evenly-matched (though there are glorious moments where we dominate a zone), everyone restart-spawns on the friggin KDF spawnpoint (often leading to Federation spawncamping), the Borg are still glitchy along with the map, etc. If the devs revamp PvP at any point, I hope they vastly improve Ker'rat and its functionality. Half the reason people don't like Ker'rat is because of the bugs/flawed design. Specifically, the difficulty in changing zones, the spawncamping, etc. All of these are fixable if the devs were to simply invest the resources to do it.
Oh and a red UI
Istvaan, you're a KDF at heart. Join us.
However, I'd still dispute the fact that the best PvPers are KDF. If Ker'rat is the extent of your PvP experience, you've probably never gone up against a SP or TSI premade. I might be uniformed, but I don't think there's a lot of KDF fleets fielding premades for tournaments at the moment.
YES!! I love my red UI. Stupid LoR is taking it away
But as to the OP, much the same as the others. Once you start playing KDF you stay KDF. The ships look better, KDF pilots will help you instead of letting you die so they can get one more hulk in. And Ive began to hate the majority of the Fed farmers that cry about OP klinks until they get alot of feds, then they start camping. Once you kick them off the spawn, they just start farming again like nothing happened. Then cry about OP klinks when you alpha them. I never cry about feds killing me, I will mostly just tell them camping isnt nice and make them work to kill me.
But I dont think KDF has all the best PVPers, I think its the numbers disparity. You have far more Feds roaming around and the KDF captains generally have played more consistantly. You see most of the same klinks in Ker'rat all the time and a motley group of different feds. But you will immediately notice when the good Feds show up.
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
Not really. Many of the best PVP'ers play both sides. It's just that the competent players form a larger portion of the KDF playerbase, increasing the probability of meeting a competent player.
Really, Kerrat is the only open warzone with any population. Also, it is epic fun if I happen to run into a batch of competent FED players, and it happens more often than you might think. It is also epic taking my FED snooper sci into Kerrat and tag-teaming with a friendly escort or two. In such cases, I encounter KDF'ers fairly often who do not have much idea of how to fight with a negated cloak.
Also, the KDF rarely has enough population to start off an arena or other battle with each other. In such scenarios, it is usually 3v3 or 4v4. Not really as fun as the crazy furballs that sometimes erupt in Kerrat.
Although I have a distaste for spawncamping in the form of laying mines, warp plasma, and dozens of assimilators on the spawn, whichever side I am on. Quite simply, I give you 3 seconds to react, given that that's the warp-in animation time, before I start shooting. If you touch me with a beam or cannon, you're open game. If you run off instead, without firing, I leave you to be hunted later.
Didn't you ever watch the X-Files? The general public can't handle the truth like that. Shhhhhhhh. Keep that stuff on a need to know basis yo.
The feds start to cry out of pain and misery.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...and when my KDF main brings in his Tac Bortasqu', he goes down to tac-sci combos or even just solo tacs in Vestas.
Ker'rat is the Lone Wolf's playground. You want to see real elite PvP, fight in the arenas with premades. There are plenty of killer Feds out there.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Not entirely.
http://imageshack.us/a/img199/2999/lorkdfnew.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img526/3784/lorkdfclass.jpg
You can still select "Klingon classic" in the UI options and it's red again.:)
Everyone, silver or gold, will receive 1 free character slot with LoR.
Happens quite often in STFs as well.. If there's another bro in the STF, I end up "teaming" with him while the rest of the fed players are all over the map like headless chickens
We still live!!!!! Hahahahahahahahaa! We live and we will conquer!!!!! Hahahahahaaha!
-Roach, when asked about Klingon extinction!
And really, that's how BoPs often have to operate. The low hull really messes with us, though the fleet versions have shielding mostly equal to escorts/raptors. In general, though, BoPs are just fragile. You can tank in 'em, but you'd have to give up a decent bit of firepower to do so. Unless the BoP is an offensive-sci setup, they're gonna work best in packs. I like working with 2-3 other BoPs to bring down a tough opponent in a coordinated strike, hopefully with each of us throwing out a disable, stun or hold ability to make it harder for the enemy to react. Even then, BoP swarms can be shrugged off, or the BoPs might just give up because the enemy is just a zombie tank or something.
Two BoPs are basically the equivalent of a well-built and piloted Fed escort, in practical terms.
the reason for me is i like being out numbered as i feel it makes me a better player. which is also why i believe many of the kdf players are better pvp'ers. more often than not, when entering ker'rat, i am outnumbered 3 to 1 or more!! lol when the odds change, and they will, i usually find another zone or even get on my fed toon.
as for rofl stomping noobs i find no satisfaction in that personally. i will go get my 10 fed kills for the missions completion but if i hit a player and he\she pops easy i usually don't hit that player again as it is not rewarding to me.
that being said, there are many fed players who are better than most kdf players. i could name a few but i think it's against forum etiquette.
anyway, have fun kill bad guys!!
post script: some advise to any fed players reading this, even if you have some strange aversion to playing as kdf,, i recommend making a kdf toon to learn the ships and better 'know your enemy'.
Because it's fun. And my nature is far too predatory to be shuffling along in a clumsy Fed boat.
I find myself doing this in STF's too... Happily extend heals and draw aggro for a fellow warrior, but just shake my head and think sadly of the feds.
It brings out the ugly side of human nature. The insults and childish behavior is incessant.
Spawn-camp. That's what it should be called.
I like Kerrat as well and treat the zone like its a public playground. You will find all types of players, good bad or otherwise.
R.I.P
I have stopped playing PVP altogether I have been focused on Station upgrades and the Reputation leveling.
Finally, to answer your question, It better fits my personality being a Klingon, Romulan to a lesser degree and as for a Fed, after James T. Kirk we were treated to too much whiny melodramatics from the feds. Also General Chang is one of the reasons I enjoy being Klingon.
Klingon Academy is a good tutorial for being a Klingon warrior and Klingon is a good look inside the Klingon world and mind set, I had friends much like this back in the 70's and early 80's ahh, the misspent days of my youth. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1JRMJXut8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3vF9LXZePE
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" WS
Dahar Master "Epitai" Kelrok son of Pok Seplch House Leader Tactical
General Babd Grace O'Malley House Seplch Science Officer
Fleet Admiral Quintus Savat House Seplch Tactical Officer
Ah classic! muahaha, you have brightened my day. But that new one I hate, why on Qo'nos would you use pumkin orange?
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
Because amongst the Gorn, Nausicaans and Letheans every day on Qo'noS is halloween? :P
And you know what assuming does, right?