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flash525
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Hey guys,
End Game, I'm looking to get myself the Bird of Prey (B'rel specifically); I'm a Tactical player, and have always liked the Birds of Prey. Plus, with their all-universal Bridge Officer slots, they're able to be used for almost anything.
Anyway, The B'rel Retrofit in the Store costs 2500zen, and comes with an enhanced battle cloak. The Fleet B'rel Retrofit costs 5 Fleet Modules (equivalent to 2500zen) and also comes with an enhanced battle cloak (in addition to better hull and shield stats). Thus, short of being able to purchase the non-fleet version first (which obviously isn't as tough in the hull & shields department) what's the benefit behind the fleet version?
Usually Store ships comes with a unique console that the Fleet ships don't get, but I've checked the shipyard, and both ships are labelled as coming with the enhanced battle cloak. Is this a description error? If not, I can't see any reason why anyone would waste their money getting the B'rel Retrofit from the Store when the Fleet one is superior in all possible ways.
End Game, I'm looking to get myself the Bird of Prey (B'rel specifically); I'm a Tactical player, and have always liked the Birds of Prey. Plus, with their all-universal Bridge Officer slots, they're able to be used for almost anything.
Anyway, The B'rel Retrofit in the Store costs 2500zen, and comes with an enhanced battle cloak. The Fleet B'rel Retrofit costs 5 Fleet Modules (equivalent to 2500zen) and also comes with an enhanced battle cloak (in addition to better hull and shield stats). Thus, short of being able to purchase the non-fleet version first (which obviously isn't as tough in the hull & shields department) what's the benefit behind the fleet version?
Usually Store ships comes with a unique console that the Fleet ships don't get, but I've checked the shipyard, and both ships are labelled as coming with the enhanced battle cloak. Is this a description error? If not, I can't see any reason why anyone would waste their money getting the B'rel Retrofit from the Store when the Fleet one is superior in all possible ways.
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so:
1 toon total cost for store ship + fleet module = 3000 zen
2 toons total cost for store ship + 2 fleet modules = 3500zen
or
1 toon with 5 fleet modules = 2500zen
2 toons need 10 fleet modules = 5000zen
The savings add up as you make more toons in future.
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There are several reasons why people still might be interested in the non-Fleet version.
The fact that it's not locked behind a T5 shipyard for example.
Also while most other Fleet ships only require 4 modules, this one needs 5 as compensation for the integrated EBC.
The C-Store B'rel Retrofit has the weakest hull of all the T5 BoPs. The fleet version has the maximum amount of hull seen on a raider so far.
The fleet B'rel also gets a small boost in the shield mod. compared to the C-Store version.
The fleet B'rel gets another console slot and although it being an engineering one that many players would call redundant for the role of the ship, I find it as a cosy place to slot another universal console like, well let's say the Rule 62 console for example, goes well with the role of a stealth bomber.
The C-Store B'rel is good because you can use it on all chars and the thing is silly in a way it works perfectly with a sci.captain as well as a tact. So in the lack of KDF sci.vessel options people like to give the B'rel to their sci. as well. Also gives a discount for the fleet one on all chars, so if you want to use the fleet one on more chars (I know I will in PvP, especially now with Romulans comming and the awesome B'rothl skin:)) you would save a lot of zen on getting the fleet versions.
That's gotta be a typo on your part, since I bought my B'rel Retrofit just a couple weeks ago for 2000 zen. Go ahead and get the C-store B'rel Retrofit anyway, since it unlocks it for ALL characters, and getting the 1 Fleet Module you need to upgrade (with a Tier 5 shipyard) will cost you an extra 500 zen anyway ... which, oh gee hey, is the 2500 zen cost of buying the Fleet B'rel Retrofit outright without getting the C-store ship in the first place.
That means there is pretty much NO ADVANTAGE to skipping over the C-store B'rel Retrofit on your way to the Fleet version ... and a very measurable drawback ... :rolleyes:
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Personally, I don't think it should've been placed in the 5th tier of the starbase. It isn't that good. Ships like the blasted Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit (Defiant) should've been, what with the 5 tac consoles.
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The Fleet B'rel Retrofit is an upgrade from the B'rel Retrofit (T5 Z-store ship).
I'd imagine the Fleet Defiant was a Military T3 ship, because all it got was a hull upgrade and an extra console. Other Fleet ships got an increase to shield modifiers and, I believe some ships got an extra device slot and turn rate?. The Fleet Advanced Escort was a Military T4 ship, as I think it got a boost to everything.
The Fleet B'rel has an upgrade to hull, shields, and an extra engineering console. It also has a built in ability rather a shared console between the Z-store version (such as Cloak or Multi-Vector).
Buy the C-Store version. it's cheaper if you ever roll another Klingon.
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Klingons get the cloaking device as an integral part of their ships, rather than as a separate part, needing to be installed as a console. Either a ship has a cloak or it doesn't.
The B'rel retro even has the enhanced battle cloak built-in, as does the fleet version. No devices, modification or trickery, just standard engineering.
And yes, the B'rel retro costs 2000 zen, the fleet version 5 modules. For a single character, the price is the same, while giving you massive advantage for anything beyond one character. Besides, even if you don't get the fleet upgrade on an alt, it'll give you the option of flying an endgame BoP, even if you don't get the Hegh'Ta at level 40.
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Yes you get a B'rel at the beginning but that ship is T1 (Tier 1) it only has 2 fore weapons, and 1 aft weapon, and 3 boff slots,
The B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit is a General (Tier 5) level Klingon Fighter vessel. This Retrofit vessel is a heavily modified version of the B'rel Bird-of-Prey (tier 1). The Klingon Defense Force upgraded this variant with the latest acquired technology seized by the Empire in the early 25th century. Most Klingon vessels are equipped with a cloaking device.
The Bird-of-Prey retrofit has an enhanced battle cloak that allows the use of mines and torpedoes while remaining cloaked, as well as most Bridge Officer and Captain abilities.
B'rel Bird-of-Prey
B'rel Bird-of-Prey Bridge officer Layout
B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit Bridge Officer Layout
and yes, that is my T5 Setup (although i don't have the ship anymore i deleted her to make room for my romulan before they announced they will give us a free character token