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Why cant the defiant cloak at warp?

thelatathelata Member Posts: 124 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
it could in the tv series but in sector space at warp here it cannot,any ideas?
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    it could in the tv series but in sector space at warp here it cannot,any ideas?

    I don't know why, possibly because you can't use any standars powers in sector space ? And it's not like it would be of any use to cloak in sector space anyway. :P
  • obertheromulanobertheromulan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Most powers are disabled in sector space. Why? Because Cryptic, that's why.
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  • chaosgod777chaosgod777 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    not true. I can see warping into a zone cloaked being useful. however the first dialaug you do would decloak you. I cant see why the cloak is a console instead of a ship power like it used to be. and more over why its not a battle cloak like its supposed to be. that would be cannon.
  • thelatathelata Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    perhaps its something they overlooked,its no big deal just the little things what make games more atmospheric
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    it could in the tv series but in sector space at warp here it cannot,any ideas?
    What would be the point in being invisible while you fly from planet A to planet B to start your next mission? You don't want your friends to see you flying to the planet? If so, simply change zones. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    perhaps its something they overlooked,its no big deal just the little things what make games more atmospheric
    It's not about overlooking it. It's about understanding that STO is an MMO. People seeing you in Sector Space can lead to PMs, and potential teaming, and the like. The original goal of STO wasn't for people to be constantly cloaked and playing the games all by themselves. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thelatathelata Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    there is no major point just as i said its the little details that matter,even little things like this make the game more realistic,there are RP ers in the game too maybe they would enjoy just being able to cloak while travelling
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    it could in the tv series but in sector space at warp here it cannot,any ideas?

    The Federation Council banned the use of cloaking on its ships in sector space in the year 2402. That ban is still in effect in 2409. Maybe when the Iconians return it may be lifted?
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    it could in the tv series but in sector space at warp here it cannot,any ideas?

    You mean aside from the fact that the ship you're referencing was destroyed 40 years prior to STO?
  • thelatathelata Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    well you learn something new everyday,didnt know that thanks,oh and yeah i hate it when dialogue decloaks you why havent they fixed this yet
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    There was a time where if someone wanted to RP star trek it was only text based, use your imagination. Damn kids dont know how good they got it:P
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    there is no major point just as i said its the little details that matter,even little things like this make the game more realistic,there are RP ers in the game too maybe they would enjoy just being able to cloak while travelling
    Which only makes it more difficult for other players to see you in Sector Space, and thus contact/team with you. For the sake of Role-playing or not cloaking in Sector Space is nearly the antithesis of what an MMO is about.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • rvlion79rvlion79 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    The Federation Council banned the use of cloaking on its ships in sector space in the year 2402. That ban is still in effect in 2409. Maybe when the Iconians return it may be lifted?
    Not a logical conclusion...
    Feds cannot cloak in sector space...
    KDF cannot cloak in sector space...
    Roms probably also cannot cloak in sector space... (havent been on tribble)

    The KDF has been at war with the Federation for many years so they are not going to listen to the Federation Council.

    Probably just a development flaw... :rolleyes:
  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    No you guys have it all wrong, no ship can cloak in sector space because of the anti-cloak Inhibitors that have been place all over the place.:P
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Q did it, it's always Q's fault.
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This kinda seems like nitpicking..
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  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's probably a technical limitation, but cloaking in sector space sure would be nice, as would not decloaking for dialogue or when scanning anomalies.

    Basically, cloaking needs a complete overhaul, but since Cryptic didn't see fit to do it for the introduction of Romulans, I doubt it will ever be done.
  • sjameshsjamesh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    There's really no point in cloaking in sector space so why give the devs more work?
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  • snebzsnebz Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think the whole cloaking business is a little odd.
    In the show, you could certainly talk to someone on the bridge, and I think you could do sub-space, too.
    I think cloaks need a buff, and there should be (imo) no difference between Battle Cloak and Cloak, all should be one.
    Or, perhaps battle cloak could mean firing while cloaked.
    But, if that where the case, then PvP would be unbalanced.
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  • darthplagiarismdarthplagiarism Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It would be nice to cloak in sector space. I don't think there is a need for it though since you can't engage in direct combat with other vessels in sector space.
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  • happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Which only makes it more difficult for other players to see you in Sector Space, and thus contact/team with you. For the sake of Role-playing or not cloaking in Sector Space is nearly the antithesis of what an MMO is about.

    However, allies can always see you. Even when cloaked. Ever seen someone cloak at ESD? You can see the same cyan wireframe that you do when you, yourself cloak. So everyone who could team with you could actually still see you, it would just be the opposing faction that couldn't.
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thelata wrote: »
    perhaps its something they overlooked,its no big deal just the little things what make games more atmospheric

    the key point to this statement is it no big deal .....I whole heartily agree ... I often do wonder if about what people...nm....dissmissed
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  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    snebz wrote: »
    I think the whole cloaking business is a little odd.
    In the show, you could certainly talk to someone on the bridge, and I think you could do sub-space, too.
    I think cloaks need a buff, and there should be (imo) no difference between Battle Cloak and Cloak, all should be one.
    Or, perhaps battle cloak could mean firing while cloaked.
    But, if that where the case, then PvP would be unbalanced.
    BUFF CLOAKS (imo)!

    The difference between battle cloak and normal cloak is that, battle cloak can cloak at will even during combat. Normal cloak can't do that. That is why it's called battle cloak because its like a captain performing attack patterns.
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  • seansamurai1seansamurai1 Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I still think the Tac escort (non fleet version) should have had a battle cloak as standard (the defiant although long destroyed in the timeline of the game) had a Romulan cloak used with permission from the romulans for the dominion threat. However, the fleet version due to its extra tac console slot should have a slotted cloak that works similar to a battle cloak, ie it can't be used while under direct fire but when not being engaged (but still under combat conditions) it can be used.
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