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jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
Now, depending on the board you find yourself on, checking to see if a thread already exists for your topic is either required by the board's TOS or just good manners.

Either way, residents of this board, please take five seconds to browse the front page to see what's already been said, and then decide if your post addresses a different enough topic to be considered separate. It saves the moderators work in merging threads, it helps keep the board useable for the variety of topics it covers, and it makes everyone a little happier.
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  • dichtbringerdichtbringer Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's much more funny when the first 4 pages of GD consist of moved threads, I'm betting whoever is moderating right now is having a blast :D
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Server outages are there to test to see if the moderators are awake or not, and see how fast they can move/merge/close threads.
  • galaxyrider0galaxyrider0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    With this amount of threads they don't repair the problem... so.. let them create thousands of threads!
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah, but, I don't enjoy having to go back three pages to find something interesting to read.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Each server outage is a separate issue in my opinion, and in the opinions of many others.

    Having a thread for each outage speaks to the bigger problem of game stability.


    Also, I appreciate the irony of creating a thread to tell people not to create unnecessary threads.
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Each server outage is a separate issue in my opinion, and in the opinions of many others.

    Having a thread for each outage speaks to the bigger problem of game stability.

    You'd have made an interesting point if you understood what was happening.

    The current server outage has spawned almost two full pages worth of individual threads. That would be, in the opinion you've presented, one issue.
    Also, I appreciate the irony of creating a thread to tell people not to create unnecessary threads.

    That's not what irony means....
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    With this amount of threads they don't repair the problem... so.. let them create thousands of threads!
    jermbot wrote: »
    You'd have made an interesting point if you understood what was happening.

    The current server outage has spawned almost two full pages worth of individual threads. That would be, in the opinion you've presented, one issue.



    That's not what irony means....

    Creating a thread to point out that there are too many threads is a classic example of situational irony. You are doing the opposite of expectations, with a humorous effect.

    (btw, there are several types of irony)
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  • m4tth3wk4n3m4tth3wk4n3 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Irony would be that you make a post about this issue while at the very same time somebody else is doing the exact same thing... But you dont know this from eachother...

    Atleast this is my opinion on what irony is...

    School's over boys and girls; nothing more to see here!

    Moving on...
  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This thread isn't ironic. The OP is the only person who has made a thread to discuss the issue of people making hundreds of threads about the network outages.

    It's not even ironic that people are making hundreds of threads about the same issue, that's called spamming.
  • jadenmiajadenmia Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jermbot wrote: »
    Yeah, but, I don't enjoy having to go back three pages to find something interesting to read.

    But but but, isn't lots of angry people posting excessive numbers of threads about the same thing FUN?!?!

    You get to play around with arguments, see people enraged, and become mad at the server, other people and and and...

    Yes I know, it is shameless!

    On a more relevant, non-trolling, note concerning multiple thread post of the same problem everywhere, it ensures that people know they are not alone.

    So at the very least, we have a certainty that it isn't our fault or the fault of a technical difficulty on the client side.
  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's much more funny when the first 4 pages of GD consist of moved threads, I'm betting whoever is moderating right now is having a blast :D

    I've already asked Brandon if I can have a Thread 'Kill Counter' under my avatar....I don't think it'll happen though ;-)


    Sorry for the slew of redirects though guys, obviously it's not something we can help :) Better than dozens of duplicate threads eh?
  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2013
    It surely won't be the last time you have to do this kind of emergency voluntary work. If the servers won't separate for each game, we will have this kind of situation twice a week or more in the future.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    But, but, but, Cryptic pays me 5 Zen every time I'm the first person to make a new thread about something? Isn't that the same for everyone? :D
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    deokkent wrote: »
    Just pitching in to say that OP is right though. People, use search feature to ensure you're not creating a duplicate topic thread... Seriously! It takes 2 sec.

    I agree, as far that goes.

    Thing is, not all the threads getting merged are about the same thing.

    Regarding the latest outage, i saw threads made to merely to pass the time having fun (nothing wrong with that), I saw other threads inquiring after an explantion for the outage, I saw another thread wondering why NW players were better informed by Cryptic on the issue.......and other subjects too.

    While all were inspired by the outage, these are sperate issues.

    Burying an earnest question as to why the NW player base seem to get priority over the STO player base in getting information in the general thread posting recipes and jokes to pass the time isn't merging threads for the purposes of keeping things tidy.

    It appears to be a way to hide uncomfortable questions.

    Burying a post that wonders why d'Stahl hasn't come to the players to explain whats going on, why we are having such frequent crashes and whats being done about it in a thread that is growing two pages a minute with recipes and arabic news articles, also appears to be a way to hide serious questions.

    Indeed, merging comments on two seperate crashes together also obscures the reality of whats going on.

    Clearly some moderation is necessary, but it really does seem sometimes as if moderation is also getting used to hide the more difficult questions and issues.
  • aexraelaexrael Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    With one official community liaison on the payroll and 5-6 henchmen it's nothing short of amazing that there isn't a "Announcement", i.e. the super stickies, the moment the servers go down, and one which stays up for the remainder of the evening. The art of Communication isn't rocket science, contrary to popular convention.

    If people had a go-to point it would serve to dramatically cut down on the irrelevant one liner posts, "zomg le game is down".
  • nileight1nileight1 Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's not really necessary to search when the first twenty threads are about the same thing.
    Spammers gotta spam.:rolleyes:
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    deokkent wrote: »
    Just pitching in to say that OP is right though. People, use search feature to ensure you're not creating a duplicate topic thread... Seriously! It takes 2 sec.

    Yet both you and the OP seem to be missing the obvious :
    Ppl are expressing their displeasure with Cryptic with these multiple post .
    And yes , most of them are perfectly aware of the multiple threads they are making .
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  • voicesdarkvoicesdark Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This issue isn't just about server downtime threads though. Today well technically yesterday threads were popping up everywhere about tribble stuff and mind you not in the tribble sections, several threads about getting the U.S.S. Vengeance from the new ST movie into the game, etc.

    The main point is that people have been constantly creating new threads when there is already an active thread about the same exact thing. Meanwhile Legitimate new threads are getting buried before people even have a chance to notice them.

    Perhaps the forums need to be expanded to include a few new sections:

    Subsections reorganized based on faction

    Federation:

    Federation gameplay

    Federation Shipyards

    Federation Academy

    Federation Missions

    Klingons:

    Klingon gameplay

    Klingon Shipyards

    KDF training facility

    KDF Missions

    Romulans:

    Romulan gameplay

    Romulan Shipyard

    Romulan Republic Academy

    Romulan Missions

    New subsections to be added:

    Suggestions:

    Ships

    Missions

    UI

    Game Mechanics

    Environment

    Foundry

    Events

    Star Trek Universe and beyond:

    Ten forward

    ST general

    General chit chat

    Contests

    Support subsection modified:

    Support:

    Server Support

    Gameplay Support

    PC / Technical Support

    Graphics Support

    Wouldn't help prevent people being too lazy to do a simple forum search before posting, but it would help to greatly organize the forums better without legitimate threads getting buried so quickly.

    There should also be a sticky in each of the fleet recruitment threads specifically for fleet information so we can post information about our fleet without it constantly getting buried, then the rest be for general fleet discussions.
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  • foxfire2000foxfire2000 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Irony is stong in this thread. lol
  • rvlion79rvlion79 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Yet both you and the OP seem to be missing the obvious :
    Ppl are expressing their displeasure with Cryptic with these multiple post .
    And yes , most of them are perfectly aware of the multiple threads they are making .
    So what you are proposing is 1 warning... If it happens again forum perma-banishment?
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Yet both you and the OP seem to be missing the obvious :
    Ppl are expressing their displeasure with Cryptic with these multiple post .

    I'm not sure why you think encouraging people to show forum etiquette indicates that I've missed the obvious implication that people are unhappy.

    However, consider the end game. You express displeasure in hopes of encouraging a change in policy. The people who make that policy are unlikely to see 20 threads spamming the board, they're certainly unlikely to read 20 threads. If they do see 20 threads spamming the board, they are likely to give the existence of those threads only as much weight, if not less, than one thread with 20 posts.
    And yes , most of them are perfectly aware of the multiple threads they are making .

    And I salute the restraint shown by the moderators of these forums. If I were moderating these forums and believed that most of the people making multiple threads were perfectly aware of violating the forum rules against spamming, I'd be throwing out "24 hour cooling off periods" to any perpetrators.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    But, but, but, Cryptic pays me 5 Zen every time I'm the first person to make a new thread about something? Isn't that the same for everyone? :D

    No. They only give me entertainment provisions. And that's on a 20 hour cooldown. Which is why I don't create that many threads.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Irony is stong in this thread. lol

    Pop culture references aren't ironic?
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  • foxfire2000foxfire2000 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Pop culture references aren't ironic?

    Yet your reply is fulfilling that very critique.;)
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jermbot wrote: »
    Checking for an existing thread before starting a new one...

    So a pointless thread complaining about duplicate threads wasting space. people in glass houses, dude.
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited May 2013
    jermbot wrote: »
    Now, depending on the board you find yourself on, checking to see if a thread already exists for your topic is either required by the board's TOS or just good manners.

    Either way, residents of this board, please take five seconds to browse the front page to see what's already been said, and then decide if your post addresses a different enough topic to be considered separate. It saves the moderators work in merging threads, it helps keep the board useable for the variety of topics it covers, and it makes everyone a little happier.

    Pish posh you party pooper. What else can we do when "playing" Star Trek Offline?
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

    - Judge Aaron Satie
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