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twg042370
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After some time fluttering around the planet, I find myself in a land of Linux users. (They seem friendly. No signs of turning into ravenous death monsters after midnight... yet.)
So tell me folks, what do I need to know to get the game running in WINE... or something else. I'm not sure which Linux this is, but I see a gear with a K stuck in it.
And that's the end of my knowledge.
So tell me folks, what do I need to know to get the game running in WINE... or something else. I'm not sure which Linux this is, but I see a gear with a K stuck in it.
And that's the end of my knowledge.
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My suggestion would be for you to get Crossover games from codeweavers. They have a version for Mac and Linux. It isn't virtualization and it does have wine as part of its core, but it has a polished UI and makes installing games much easier.
EDIT: I see that WINE is packaged with most of the DirectX9c DLLS now.
Look here: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ for everything you might want to know.
Here are some recent tests of STO under a couple different Linux Distros (Ubuntu 13.04 is fresh): http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19203
For the sake of argument: I use Linux on all of my desktops, but I keep a Windoze laptop around JUST to play games, because of the hassle.
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what doesnt work is DX10..
all you need for STO to work in WINE is IE8.. install this and you are good to go.
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Kirk's Protege.
1) the distro you are using is unidentifiable by the app launcher menu icon [usually] - but you ARE using the KDE desktop [XWindows enviro]
2) Yes, you need wine
3) Because the launcher relies on IE, you need to run winetricks for IE7 or IE8
4) There is more info here on running STO in WINE
The Steam client itself has a Linux version, individual games still need to support Linux themselves. STO is not one of them, so no, STO will not work through Steam for Linux.
Other than most major companies, and most server enviornments.
Which tasks might those be?
Gnome or KDE are no different than Windows, both operate very similarly. For just about ANYTHING you would want to do you can use the window manager, you rarely have to use a terminal, unless you're like me and find it faster than the window manager's "idiot interface" (which I might add isn't foolproof).
I'm not calling you out or anything, just curious why you would want to do that? You're a fan of Windows, and Windows XP Professional runs just fine on a PIII.
I will not argue that Windows is fine for "the masses" who don't do much but gaming ,web surfing (watch for viruses kids) and some light word processing. However that is not what *I* do. I like to have a computer with a slim OS (windows is way over bloated) and low overhead, that does the same thing Windows does with less effort and is less susceptible to viruses.
However for the sake of argument, OpenGL can and always will run rings around DirectX.
Ok, THAT cracked me up... the words "Operating System that just works" has NEVER been part of ANY Windows advertising, and likely never will ;-) (unless of course they say "Windows: the Operating System that JUST works.")
Seriously though, not to derail the thread, this is about playing STO on Linux, I know people do it, I know they have a few issues with it, I wouldn't do it personally, why? Because that is what Windows is good for, toys (look at phones and Xboxes).
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At the risk of potentially responding to a troll post, I'll answer this - the downside to running an OS that 'just works' (though the idea that this is an accurate description of Windows is somewhat debatable) is that you are confined as to what that OS can do, and how it does it, to what the original makers of that OS allow. With Linux, there's only two barriers to what it can do - your own programming ability, and your imagination. This means that anyone with the know-how can get a Linux distro and completely rewrite and reconfigure it from the ground up, and distribute it, totally legally, which gives it an amazing level of versatility, which is why you find some flavour of Linux in everything from mobile phones to supercomputers.
And we LOL at you. Linux is free and once you figure out the basics of wine and where to put what ( its not that hard btw ) games can run smoother due to no bloatware in the background. Lets not forget 90% of computer viruses are made for WINDBLOWS . Also Linux isnt TRIBBLE.
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Good luck getting it going. As a dedicated *nix user myself I even had some trouble getting STO going at first, but it does run well once you do.
Disclaimer: I am doing this quite sarcasticly and mean no offense, I am a Linux AND Windows user, and am not "bashing" Windows, but I do feel it necessary to clear up some misgivings about linux being "bad"
Linux users LOL at the Windows userbase:
1)Ask a Linux user the last time they defragged - they'll laugh in your face
2)Ask a Linux user what Antivirus/Anti-Malware software they use - they'll facepalm then fall on the ground laughing
3)Ask a Linux user the last time they couldn't start the machine due to a "registry problem" - they'll just stare blankly at you.
4)Ask a Linux user if they like the new UI "features and effects" in Windows Vista, 7, and 8; They'll ask you what's new about them
Sorry I could go on for hours.. but .. you get the idea
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Until something breaks, then it is a hell to repair anything.
Some slight tweaks to highlight the total absurdity of 'e-peen' arguments.
People use what they like and enjoy, lets leave it at that eh?
Perfectly fine with it
But if I get it running on the rig I'm sitting in front of for the forseeable future, I can save my meagre savings for buying good coffee.
*I shouldn't have spent that week in Tokyo...
I used to have that set up but eventually got rid of Linux. I liked it, it was fast, smooth, sorta managed to get a game or two to work after a week and generally nowhere near as bad as some people make it out to be. However most companies did not support it years ago which meant while my main hardware worked my soundcard didn't. Needless to say this was a deal breaker so I deleted it.
I would be tempted to make the switch to Linux again but it's always worth keeping a mainstream OS around just in case.
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I'd like to get a PC running virtualization with a Linux VM and a Windows VM. Then I'd run VNC locally and run STO that way from Linux (assuming video driver passthru works). Virtualization is the way to go.
After that, a separate boot partition would work for me, too.
That said, I am not very happy with what I hear about Windows 8 and I may cut the cord on Windows after 7 once and for all. I won't be running it willingly, that's for sure. Gaming is the only reason I didn't buy a Linux laptop the last time.
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Windows 8 is bearable if you install Start8. It defaults to the regular desktop and adds in the start menu again. Before the final build the code was still in the operating system and you could turn it on with a registry hack, but they found out ppl were doing it and ripped it out altogether... Start8 is the only app I know of that adds it back in.
it seems to be on the way up. really just needs more people to use it then at some point developers will see that porting their games for Linux will be worth it.
I think we only really need a couple of big games to come out with Linux support and we will see a massive increase in it's use.
working with alot of large compaines since i used to be an IT contractor, corprate America runs on Windows Server actully. except for there firewall. The reason behind this being quite simple actuly. Microsoft Exchange server and Active Directory. These 2 features are already built into Windows Clients and saves money over an alternative client and you just need the server software to run it which is alot cheaper than paying for a license for an alternative mail server and alternative domain software for a corprate setting. Lets not also forget that almost exclusivly client machines in the office are Dell or HP running Windows XP or Windows 7. As for why I'm not running XP on my file server its quite simple, I sold my XP pro disk back when Windows 7 came out for about 150 bucks, I'm not interested in buying it again, and I don't run a domain server so I dont need Windows Server. Like I said linux is reserved for firewalls and some file servers, domain and mail control is almost exclusively Windows Server. I got alot more work because im an MCST than I ever got with my Linux+ certification I promise.
Wrong classic shell is a great alternative, I use Windows 8 for my home PC now and quite frankly love it, I do own Start8 but I have stopped using it, I actually have grown quite accustomed to the new interface and actully prefer it over the start menu.