Umm, why don't you just say you want to play as a "peaceful" Romulan instead of BS'ing about it? This excuse for going Fed with your Romulan just makes no sense. Klingons will gladly re-accept those who became enemies, yet demonstrate some aspect of courage and respect when they fight side by side with them in battle. It's been demonstrated over and over again throughout Trek lore.
Well, If my klink ever saw a romulan set foot on qo'nos, she would draw her disrupter and blast the sucker in the chest as the peta'Q that it is. Then she would go all bat'leth over the Cold dead corpse, while laughing hysterically!
And THATS all I have to say about that! :P
Oh, just want to add, that I would love if STO was open PvP.
I would gank fed nubs just for the lols!
Umm, why don't you just say you want to play as a "peaceful" Romulan instead of BS'ing about it? This excuse for going Fed with your Romulan just makes no sense. Klingons will gladly re-accept those who became enemies, yet demonstrate some aspect of courage and respect when they fight side by side with them in battle. It's been demonstrated over and over again throughout Trek lore.
And thats all I have to say about that.
:rolleyes:
This is true, it is incredibly easy to fool the Klingons a second, third, fourth, etc time.
doesn't matter how nice of a romulan you are, klingons hate romulans. if you set foot on qo'nos as a romulan, you're taking your life into your hands. and if you're a klingon and you see a romulan on your turf and do nothing, you're risking death at the hands of your fellow klingons for your inaction. romulans are without honor, they only existed because they were strong. now that they're not, there should be dozens of races trying to wipe the survivors from existence.
doesn't matter how nice of a romulan you are, klingons hate romulans. if you set foot on qo'nos as a romulan, you're taking your life into your hands. and if you're a klingon and you see a romulan on your turf and do nothing, you're risking death at the hands of your fellow klingons for your inaction. romulans are without honor, they only existed because they were strong. now that they're not, there should be dozens of races trying to wipe the survivors from existence.
I know for a fact, that a Romulan setting foot on Qo'nos is an insult, like a slap in the face, on every true Klingon.
It is bad enough alrdy that there is Gorns, Orions, Kittens etc etc, runing around on home planet.
And thats all I have to say about that!
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i doubt it is a full blown insult, i mean being defeated a ferengi with profit margins in a bat'leth contest would be an insult, but as long as klingons see courage and honor with a healthy respect of fear, they may respect the romulans long enough to talk with them.
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doesn't matter how nice of a romulan you are, klingons hate romulans. if you set foot on qo'nos as a romulan, you're taking your life into your hands. and if you're a klingon and you see a romulan on your turf and do nothing, you're risking death at the hands of your fellow klingons for your inaction. romulans are without honor, they only existed because they were strong. now that they're not, there should be dozens of races trying to wipe the survivors from existence.
Really, I think the problem there is in assuming that Martok, Gowron, or Worf are representative of Klingon culture instead of viewing them as individuals with a skewed perspective.
I think Worf was probably not very knowledgable about Klingon society and that everything he said is suspect or wrong... And while Martok may have liked Worf and agreed with him, Martok probably didn't represent Klingon society either.
I think most Klingons didn't care about the Khitomer Massacre and even of those who did thought they had it coming or sold them out.
Overall, I suspect Worf probably knew less about Klingon culture than virtually any of the other bridge crew on TNG and, tragically/comically, they were always humoring him, like you do when you ask a child to describe Santa Claus.
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i doubt it is a full blown insult, i mean being defeated a ferengi with profit margins in a bat'leth contest would be an insult, but as long as klingons see courage and honor with a healthy respect of fear, they may respect the romulans long enough to talk with them.
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Regarding the Kroms and Froms (Doffjobs channel designated them as so), I'm happy to see Kroms on Qo'nos - they may carry the dishonour of their ancestors, but if they wish to fight for the right to regain that lost honour, they are the ideal redshirts for the glorious klingon armies to utillise against the fedrats and their Frommy -spits- partners who have dishonoured their kin greatly by joining and sharing their technologies with the dishonourable Federation, aided by the (alleged) Iconian agents of Crhi'p tik and Pi'w'Eii
There is no respect for the Klingons and they certainly have no honor. They are cowards who prey on poor sweet defenseless Tribbles and should be eradicated from existence, their ashes spread to the far corners of the galaxy as a warning to all others that massacring the defenseless will NOT be tolerated!!
DEATH TO THE KLINGONS....LONG LIVE THE TRIBBLE OVERBREEDERS...ERR OVERSEERS!!! LOL
There is no respect for the Klingons and they certainly have no honor. They are cowards who prey on poor sweet defenseless Tribbles and should be eradicated from existence, their ashes spread to the far corners of the galaxy as a warning to all others that massacring the defenseless will NOT be tolerated!!
DEATH TO THE KLINGONS....LONG LIVE THE TRIBBLE OVERBREEDERS...ERR OVERSEERS!!! LOL
Maybe send a message to the Borg... "You need more tactical cubes on the front lines, not those pathetic probes and spheres!!!"
Oh wait... Now the KDF, FED, kroms and froms are gone... :cool:
There's actually a lot of good reason why Romulans can easily join the KDF instead of Fed:-
- Klingons also have Cloaking Devices (handy for leveling up with the lower Tier ships if you hate Warbirds)
- Better special consoles (Plasmonic Leech, space shotgun, new shield drainer thingy)
- Great story reasons too (no spoilers of course)
All the Romulans need to do is show the Klingon Empire courage, honour and strength (just like what the Feds did when the Enterprise-C intervened at Khitomer). After that, if successful, the Klingon Empire will indeed be willing to get Romulans into their ranks - because they have proven themselves to be worthy allies and honourable warriors.
Any Klingon who simply kills a Romulan on Qo'nos if they have pleased the Empire should expect to be hanging by their ridges within 20 minutes :P
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Overall, I suspect Worf probably knew less about Klingon culture than virtually any of the other bridge crew on TNG and, tragically/comically, they were always humoring him, like you do when you ask a child to describe Santa Claus.
I always figured Worf had a very strong grasp of the ritual and cultural practices of the Klingons, but completely lacked practical experience with the day-to-day lives of actual Klingons and how those rituals and that culture may or may not impact them. Everything to him was steeped in honor and courage and battle and what have you, but the practical reality was much less... glamorous.
Imagine if you spent every day of your life absorbing Japanese culture and practices, then moved over there only to find out most people don't ritualistically drink green tea or are much more casual with their honorifics than you expected, instead eating at McDonald's every other day and calling their friends "dude". That's Worf.
Ada Rouafle (apologize for spelling) said in Insurrection:
Look in the Mirror, Admiral the Federation is old. For that past 24 months they have challenged by every major power in the quadrant, the Borg, the Cardassian, the Dominion, they all smell the scent of death on the Federation.
The best thing for Romulans is let the KDF arm them and do your own thing.
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Really, I think the problem there is in assuming that Martok, Gowron, or Worf are representative of Klingon culture instead of viewing them as individuals with a skewed perspective.
I think Worf was probably not very knowledgable about Klingon society and that everything he said is suspect or wrong... And while Martok may have liked Worf and agreed with him, Martok probably didn't represent Klingon society either.
I think most Klingons didn't care about the Khitomer Massacre and even of those who did thought they had it coming or sold them out.
Overall, I suspect Worf probably knew less about Klingon culture than virtually any of the other bridge crew on TNG and, tragically/comically, they were always humoring him, like you do when you ask a child to describe Santa Claus.
well of course worf hates romulans more than the average klingon, but i wasn't even thinking of him or his friends... those three klingons in "visionary" were total unknowns, but they were in fact there to spy on the romulans, and they did end up fighting in the bar... just because they hate/mistrust each other. so that shows that other klingons hate romulans. plus, the fact of klingons hating romulans was part of odo's proof when he was trying to sell it to sisko.
on the other hand, most of the romulan civilians we've seen have been quite agreeable. but most of the folks you'll run into in space will be military, so thats what will give us our impressions of a secretive race. the romulan military has been a real threat to the klingons and the federation for over a hundred years. klingons wouldn't stop and give the pathetic romulan hippies a second look, they want to fight anyway. this blow to the romulans has weakened them to the point that anyone could finish them off. so if the klingons don't do it, someone else would, maybe even another race within the romulan empire.
Ada Rouafle (apologize for spelling) said in Insurrection:
Look in the Mirror, Admiral the Federation is old. For that past 24 months they have challenged by every major power in the quadrant, the Borg, the Cardassian, the Dominion, they all smell the scent of death on the Federation.
The best thing for Romulans is let the KDF arm them and do your own thing.
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I will be sending my Romulan to Fed side as well. Klingons has way too much honor to have something as a Romulan. Since Romulans have nothing on honor.
Now IF I get to do a Reman Capt. Now I might consider that to go KDF. Since they kinda match their ways better. Since Remans hate Romulans for what they did. I can play out that story line.
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Well, If my klink ever saw a romulan set foot on qo'nos, she would draw her disrupter and blast the sucker in the chest as the peta'Q that it is. Then she would go all bat'leth over the Cold dead corpse, while laughing hysterically!
This is true, it is incredibly easy to fool the Klingons a second, third, fourth, etc time.
Kinda like the feds? War with Romulans then war with the Klingons, then war with the Cardassians, then war Borg, then war with Klingons again, then war with the Dominion, now war with the Undine, war with the Klingons again, war with the Dominion again. You'd think the Federation would realize that having a real military with heavily armed battleships might be a good idea after how many years of flying around aimlessly through space?
doesn't matter how nice of a romulan you are, klingons hate romulans. if you set foot on qo'nos as a romulan, you're taking your life into your hands. and if you're a klingon and you see a romulan on your turf and do nothing, you're risking death at the hands of your fellow klingons for your inaction. romulans are without honor, they only existed because they were strong. now that they're not, there should be dozens of races trying to wipe the survivors from existence.
Seems like you need to rewatch some Star Trek. I mean c'mon, if even Worf can finally admit Romulans "fought with honor", then just about every other Klingon who fought with them during the Dominion War, or has had dealings with them via House politics, trade, etc. should be fine.
TNG and DS9 Worf is not equal to every Klingon, people....seriously.
I for one, will be very happy to step foot on the "Home World" with my Romulan. I fully intend to play a Romulan and play within the KDF, mostly because I am having loads of fun playing my Orion. She is a sexy, marauding, raider of a chick, and I for one dig the style of the KDF way more than the Federation.
So, out of respect for my fellow KDF allies, the more Romulans playing KDF, the better.
Kinda like the feds? War with Romulans then war with the Klingons, then war with the Cardassians, then war Borg, then war with Klingons again, then war with the Dominion, now war with the Undine, war with the Klingons again, war with the Dominion again. You'd think the Federation would realize that having a real military with heavily armed battleships might be a good idea after how many years of flying around aimlessly through space?
Definitely easy to fool the feds multiple times too. Almost too easy really.
Well, I for one would NEVER set foot on Quonos regardless of how the Klingonese feel.
I may have been forced to "ally" with them but pretty much for me it ended when I closed Douche-Tan's text window.
The only saving grace is that no Klingon will ever set foot in our command center.
But worse than the Klingons is the fact I have heard that Douche-Tan is allowing ALIENS into his forces. ALIENS. He constantly adds insult to injury.
That said, the only possible allience is with KDF. There is a laundry list of why its a far better choice not the least of which is the clothing options are simply superior.
I feel your pain guys, and I really did wish the Romulans were their own, bonafide faction. It may have balanced out the populations more. It would keep the fleets distinct from each other.
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Umm, why don't you just say you want to play as a "peaceful" Romulan instead of BS'ing about it? This excuse for going Fed with your Romulan just makes no sense. Klingons will gladly re-accept those who became enemies, yet demonstrate some aspect of courage and respect when they fight side by side with them in battle. It's been demonstrated over and over again throughout Trek lore.
And thats all I have to say about that.
:rolleyes:
Well, If my klink ever saw a romulan set foot on qo'nos, she would draw her disrupter and blast the sucker in the chest as the peta'Q that it is. Then she would go all bat'leth over the Cold dead corpse, while laughing hysterically!
And THATS all I have to say about that! :P
Oh, just want to add, that I would love if STO was open PvP.
I would gank fed nubs just for the lols!
This is true, it is incredibly easy to fool the Klingons a second, third, fourth, etc time.
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i doubt it is a full blown insult, i mean being defeated a ferengi with profit margins in a bat'leth contest would be an insult, but as long as klingons see courage and honor with a healthy respect of fear, they may respect the romulans long enough to talk with them.
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Really, I think the problem there is in assuming that Martok, Gowron, or Worf are representative of Klingon culture instead of viewing them as individuals with a skewed perspective.
I think Worf was probably not very knowledgable about Klingon society and that everything he said is suspect or wrong... And while Martok may have liked Worf and agreed with him, Martok probably didn't represent Klingon society either.
I think most Klingons didn't care about the Khitomer Massacre and even of those who did thought they had it coming or sold them out.
Overall, I suspect Worf probably knew less about Klingon culture than virtually any of the other bridge crew on TNG and, tragically/comically, they were always humoring him, like you do when you ask a child to describe Santa Claus.
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Regarding the Kroms and Froms (Doffjobs channel designated them as so), I'm happy to see Kroms on Qo'nos - they may carry the dishonour of their ancestors, but if they wish to fight for the right to regain that lost honour, they are the ideal redshirts for the glorious klingon armies to utillise against the fedrats and their Frommy -spits- partners who have dishonoured their kin greatly by joining and sharing their technologies with the dishonourable Federation, aided by the (alleged) Iconian agents of Crhi'p tik and Pi'w'Eii
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DEATH TO THE KLINGONS....LONG LIVE THE TRIBBLE OVERBREEDERS...ERR OVERSEERS!!! LOL
Oh wait... Now the KDF, FED, kroms and froms are gone... :cool:
- Klingons also have Cloaking Devices (handy for leveling up with the lower Tier ships if you hate Warbirds)
- Better special consoles (Plasmonic Leech, space shotgun, new shield drainer thingy)
- Great story reasons too (no spoilers of course)
All the Romulans need to do is show the Klingon Empire courage, honour and strength (just like what the Feds did when the Enterprise-C intervened at Khitomer). After that, if successful, the Klingon Empire will indeed be willing to get Romulans into their ranks - because they have proven themselves to be worthy allies and honourable warriors.
Any Klingon who simply kills a Romulan on Qo'nos if they have pleased the Empire should expect to be hanging by their ridges within 20 minutes :P
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I always figured Worf had a very strong grasp of the ritual and cultural practices of the Klingons, but completely lacked practical experience with the day-to-day lives of actual Klingons and how those rituals and that culture may or may not impact them. Everything to him was steeped in honor and courage and battle and what have you, but the practical reality was much less... glamorous.
Imagine if you spent every day of your life absorbing Japanese culture and practices, then moved over there only to find out most people don't ritualistically drink green tea or are much more casual with their honorifics than you expected, instead eating at McDonald's every other day and calling their friends "dude". That's Worf.
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Look in the Mirror, Admiral the Federation is old. For that past 24 months they have challenged by every major power in the quadrant, the Borg, the Cardassian, the Dominion, they all smell the scent of death on the Federation.
The best thing for Romulans is let the KDF arm them and do your own thing.
well of course worf hates romulans more than the average klingon, but i wasn't even thinking of him or his friends... those three klingons in "visionary" were total unknowns, but they were in fact there to spy on the romulans, and they did end up fighting in the bar... just because they hate/mistrust each other. so that shows that other klingons hate romulans. plus, the fact of klingons hating romulans was part of odo's proof when he was trying to sell it to sisko.
on the other hand, most of the romulan civilians we've seen have been quite agreeable. but most of the folks you'll run into in space will be military, so thats what will give us our impressions of a secretive race. the romulan military has been a real threat to the klingons and the federation for over a hundred years. klingons wouldn't stop and give the pathetic romulan hippies a second look, they want to fight anyway. this blow to the romulans has weakened them to the point that anyone could finish them off. so if the klingons don't do it, someone else would, maybe even another race within the romulan empire.
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Now IF I get to do a Reman Capt. Now I might consider that to go KDF. Since they kinda match their ways better. Since Remans hate Romulans for what they did. I can play out that story line.
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Kinda like the feds? War with Romulans then war with the Klingons, then war with the Cardassians, then war Borg, then war with Klingons again, then war with the Dominion, now war with the Undine, war with the Klingons again, war with the Dominion again. You'd think the Federation would realize that having a real military with heavily armed battleships might be a good idea after how many years of flying around aimlessly through space?
Seems like you need to rewatch some Star Trek. I mean c'mon, if even Worf can finally admit Romulans "fought with honor", then just about every other Klingon who fought with them during the Dominion War, or has had dealings with them via House politics, trade, etc. should be fine.
TNG and DS9 Worf is not equal to every Klingon, people....seriously.
:rolleyes:
So, out of respect for my fellow KDF allies, the more Romulans playing KDF, the better.
Definitely easy to fool the feds multiple times too. Almost too easy really.
I may have been forced to "ally" with them but pretty much for me it ended when I closed Douche-Tan's text window.
The only saving grace is that no Klingon will ever set foot in our command center.
But worse than the Klingons is the fact I have heard that Douche-Tan is allowing ALIENS into his forces. ALIENS. He constantly adds insult to injury.
That said, the only possible allience is with KDF. There is a laundry list of why its a far better choice not the least of which is the clothing options are simply superior.