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capthayden
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This is what I fly now. Cruiser refit, a.k.a. Exeter-class (c-store ship)
I know it's not up to Tier 5 standards, but it works just fine in PvE (normal difficulty) as well as fleet actions. The trick is keeping your shields up at all costs, as the hull is very weak.
I'm a tac captain, so perhaps the ship packs a little more punch than when commanded by an engineer or science captain. I also concede that my weapon and science console setups are far from optimal, but again I haven't had a problem staying alive, with one notable exception: Borg Cubes, as they eat shields for breakfast and the heavy plasma torp is lethal on an unshielded hull. But I can live with that, as a simple "Fleet Support" will allow me to finish them, and I'm not so far gone that I expect to be able to solo a cube in my beloved Connie. (In truth, NO ONE should be able to solo a Borg cube, but I digress.)
My setup:
Fore weaps: TOS Phaser, photon torp
Deflector: Positron Deflector Mk XII [ShdS] [SIF] [GRA]
Impulse: Efficient Impulse engine Mk VIII
Shield: Reman Prototype Covarient Shield MK XI
Aft weaps: TOS phasers
Engineering Consoles: MK XII Ablative armor
Science Consoles: Graviton Pulse Generator, Ionized gas sensor
Tactical Console: Phaser relay Mk XI
Bridge Stations: Tac team I, EPtS I, Rev Shield Polarity I, Engineering team I, EPtS II, Transfer Shield Strength I
Stats:
Hull: 19,500
Shields: 5,577
Resists: Phaser, plasma, tetryon and disruptor 36.7%
So, for those who pine for flying their Connie, but are crushed by the constant denial of a proper retrofit: This is as close as I've come to finding a survivable setup. I don't always fly a Connie, but when I do I use ablative armor MK XII's. Stay retro my friends.
I know it's not up to Tier 5 standards, but it works just fine in PvE (normal difficulty) as well as fleet actions. The trick is keeping your shields up at all costs, as the hull is very weak.
I'm a tac captain, so perhaps the ship packs a little more punch than when commanded by an engineer or science captain. I also concede that my weapon and science console setups are far from optimal, but again I haven't had a problem staying alive, with one notable exception: Borg Cubes, as they eat shields for breakfast and the heavy plasma torp is lethal on an unshielded hull. But I can live with that, as a simple "Fleet Support" will allow me to finish them, and I'm not so far gone that I expect to be able to solo a cube in my beloved Connie. (In truth, NO ONE should be able to solo a Borg cube, but I digress.)
My setup:
Fore weaps: TOS Phaser, photon torp
Deflector: Positron Deflector Mk XII [ShdS] [SIF] [GRA]
Impulse: Efficient Impulse engine Mk VIII
Shield: Reman Prototype Covarient Shield MK XI
Aft weaps: TOS phasers
Engineering Consoles: MK XII Ablative armor
Science Consoles: Graviton Pulse Generator, Ionized gas sensor
Tactical Console: Phaser relay Mk XI
Bridge Stations: Tac team I, EPtS I, Rev Shield Polarity I, Engineering team I, EPtS II, Transfer Shield Strength I
Stats:
Hull: 19,500
Shields: 5,577
Resists: Phaser, plasma, tetryon and disruptor 36.7%
So, for those who pine for flying their Connie, but are crushed by the constant denial of a proper retrofit: This is as close as I've come to finding a survivable setup. I don't always fly a Connie, but when I do I use ablative armor MK XII's. Stay retro my friends.
Foundry missions: "Salvaged" and "Preemption (Federation)" brought to you by the former "Tom_Riker01".
"An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback." ~Data
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I don't intend to be mean about it, but it's not really fair to other people to slow down a public match just so you can play around in your favorite ship. Again though, if you want to do it with your friends and fleet mates who know going in whats up, or maybe everybody's doing it for a challenge, that's cool. Just please don't do it in the public queue.
PM me in game if you ever want to do missions together. Ill get my Connie out of mothballs and we could have a go at the STFS and if you like, daily missions, etc... Would be fun.
EDIT: Got mine all set up and am off to solo some missions...
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
(which became new construction..witness NCC-1701A Enterprise A. I recall some jaw droppingly lovely models made for SFC, and the default tier-2 fed cruiser model isn't even in the same ballpark as the old Moonraker made 1701A made for SFC.. ..Heck.. you could look in the windows of the Rec deck ..and there was stuff there!
*wanders off to get lost in the memories of trek game mods past*
((for that matter the bastic TOS Connie model currently is kinda..well.. it could be better. Wheres my old AMT kit?))
You can find his Adventures at catstarsto.com
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The mission before that: Everything Old is New.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
It's not about winning all the time. It's about having fun.
If a few of the 'Leet 1337 power gamers can't handle it in a public queue, then maybe they should stick to private matches.
I've seen a few Tier One and Two ships, which I assume are builds with updated consoles, shields, weapons etc, hold their own in moderate difficulty PvE public matches. I mostly run Tier 4 and 5 boats now, but as far as I'm concerned, if the players running older ships do their part (within their limitations), I could care less what they bring. Just come on in and have fun.
Now, I agree that you have a valid point about courtesy when it comes to harder difficulty levels. In that case, don't bring a pistol to a nuclear slugging match, so to speak.
Not trying to be a jerk here. Just offering my opinion, for what it's worth.
@ sander233 and bugspatteredjack, I'd be happy to team up anytime. As was mentioned eariler, it's about having a good time.
I just thought I'd share my setup with anyone who wanted to try and make a viable (or as viable as limitations allow) Connie build.
I should also add that I don't seem to die anywhere near as often as one would expect. I DID have to change my tactics, as in stay out of torpedo arcs and avoid getting too close to get snagged by tractor beams (damned Romulans), but a ship of this size turns like a Tier 5 escort, so survivability comes down to simply keeping the shields up and staying in desirable firing positions.
In game handle "@tom_riker01" See you all in game.
"An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback." ~Data
Check this out homie! While you're running your T2 Cruiser in STFs and the like, a whole bunch of Klingons got together and ran their KDF ship from the exact same era!
But wait ...
The K'Tinga has a fleet version! OH SNAP!
Well at least the Romulans won't get to run fleet versions of their old era ships, amirite?
Let's be realistic here. The people you just called leet 1337 power gamers? They are running those STFs in private channels. Heck, there's a pretty public channel we all can join to run elite STFs in a non-Pug-ish manner.
The people you're running into with your T2 underpowered ship that are getting aggravated with you for doing so? They're just people PUGging it. So if you're PUGging elite STFs in a T2 ship, you're not doing anyone any favors. And if you're deriving fun out of that? You're kind of trolling the game.
If you're PUGging normal STFs, you're still kind of deadweight, but at least you won't cause the STF and its optional to fail most of the time. Still, PUGging in a T2 ship is kind of tacky. You're not really upsetting any of those super elite people though cause they already avoid that kind of jibba jabba through the easy to use eSTF channel or their own private channels.
a) I am doing so with people with people I know well and play with regularly.
b) They know beforehand my intent to do so and approve it.
c) Too many STO players walking around with a chip on their shoulder about everything as it is. No need at all to add to that stressed out group.
I must confess to a certain curiosity now to running Space STFs with an all Essex mounted team. Was in a group which once did the Tau Dewa Patrol Daily in shuttles. Nerve wrackingly hilariously fun. We'd never do something like this to anyone outside our group.
I have see Lvl 50 VAs in T5 Fleet ships turn ISN from a quick mission over my lunch break into a world class SNAFU. Far too many people playing STO assume having Elite gear, or, being here since the Beta, or, any other of a dozen or so nonsensical reasons makes them Elite. If the OP is playing STFs in an Essex class while not dying and he is contributing to mission success, then maybe his abilities and skills are in fact far superior to the typical STO player who claims Elite status. Calling someone a troll for doing this might just be a sign of drinking the HatorAde a little too much. Besides, if he was doing this in a B'Rel or any of the other BoPs no one would raise an eyebrow at all.
So that is YOU flying around in that traitor assault cruiser
Ooops. Wrong game. :P The one depicted in my sig is from a game called Star Trek: Armada II. Can't get this particular pattern in STO. Which is a shame really. What we have now for the MU ships in STO is an improvement over the original 'Badly Bruised purple' motif but not by much. It is best described as a 'Meanie Harlequin' theme I think.
The textures on the ship in my sig were done by a fellow usernamed Jetfreak. He is an amazing talent. Jetfreak, with some small help from myself, created a Mirror Universe texture set for every Fed ship in that game and nearly all of the custom ships available as mods. Such as Gabe Koerner's Enterprise 1701 and then the JJPrise. We watched the TOS Episode Mirror Mirror and screencapped all of the ship shots where we could. We noticed the Mirror Ent-1701 was gunmetal in color and she had the Terran Empire symbol on the the bow of the saucer top and bottom. I did up the symbol and then we sized it for each of the ships. We felt it should be as prominent as possible since the Terrans are not subtle at all. On the ship in my sig, the emblem on the bottom of the saucer extends from the leading edge clear back to the Captain's Launch. Which forms the pommel of the gladius.
I do have an MU Sovvy however. And yes, she is named I.S.S. Empress Hoshi NCC 91764 - A.
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One thing you should consider is that the exact thing you're doing (Vice Admiral flying a Connie into endgame public queues) has been used as a form of griefing. People do it just to deliberately annoy the team. I'm not saying you're a griefer, I accept that you genuinely just like the ship, but some may view it as grounds to report you to a GM. I have seen people doing this get reported. Because especially on any event where there's a time limit or you're protecting something (pretty much any space Fleet Marks event or STF), your lack of DPS can cause the team to fail after a drawn out match. That is a waste of people's limited play time, they will be justifiably upset, and you may get reported as result.
Whenever you are doing something that is outside the game's normal design (flying low tier ships, running with no shields, refusing to use Captain/Boff powers, etc), you shouldn't just spring that on people in a PUG. People have generally X amount of time they can play, and want to get as much out of it as they can. What you're doing is great, I love the idea, but please understand that you are having a negative effect on the mission. Even if you still win, it still likely took a lot longer than it should have, and that has an impact on your team mates. This isn't "elite gamer sez ur using fail build pls die". I don't care if you have deep knowledge the game's systems from months of poring over the PvP forums to make the ultimate ship build. It's just a matter of courtesy to others in public matches to play the game as it was intended.
Grab a group of fleet mates and do TOS-only runs of content, that sounds like a blast. And yes, we should have a T5 Connie. WTF, CBS.
you think thats good looking, go look at bcfiles and take a peak at BAZ's TMP Connie pack, I swear you will need to change your underpants after you see it
I'm not doing it to grief as so many others have done in the past, I do it for the love of the ship and the game. If that results in me getting reported, so be it. A quick check of the combat log will reveal that I am fighting to my max potential and not merely trolling the game.
I have no illusions about being as powerful as T5 ships, so yeah I guess I am nerfing the overall DPS, but I refuse to be put in a ship I don't want to fly because that's how others feel I should play the game. I play for my amusement, when it ceases to amuse me, I quit playing. Were I a true griefer, I would be flying elite STF's but I know that will be radically detrimental to the team and not fun for anyone. So I limit my engagements to Starbase defenses and other space engagements, but not the Borg STF's.
To each his own.
"An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback." ~Data
There are plenty of people who do such things through private group, join them or even start one up yourself I'd join in my NX ship just for the fun value of giving it a go with similaly levelled ships. Lordy I have seen people joining up for STFs in shuttles when people have said they are doing it, again privately, for the fun of giving it a go.
A quick check may show you are fighting to the max for the ship you are in but you are not playing to your max potential as that would be measured by using atleast a RA level ship with a full set of level appropriate equipment. This means you could be seen as greifing even by those who check it out.
Cryptic can wake up all it wants, however unless they get permission from CBS to do it, who have already said no, it is not going to happen.