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Can Romulans respec their alliance?

leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
leviathan99#2867
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edited April 2013 in Tribble - General Discussion and Feedback
I'm going to guess the answer is no but I'd like confirmation from a dev or someone in beta.

Also, curious whether the alignment mission can be shared or replayed.
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  • aeonjeanaeonjean Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    No you can't respec your alliance. It tells you this in game right before you're made to pick.

    One of the pop-ups also says you can even replay the mission, but no matter the outcome you pick it won't change the faction that you originally ally with.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So... Have a new motherboard to install and I'd need a beta invite even then but one of the things I'd test here:

    Can pre-choice Romulans team with post-choice Romulans at all?
  • dastahldastahl Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    So... Have a new motherboard to install and I'd need a beta invite even then but one of the things I'd test here:

    Can pre-choice Romulans team with post-choice Romulans at all?

    Romulans are intended to be able to team for any mission that is setup properly to allow Romulans to team.

    The only missions that Romulans should not be able to team for are missions that are setup where FED and KDF cannot team for the episode.

    All Romulan episodes should be set to allow all Romulans to team together. If they are not, then its a bug.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The catch is that the decision to form a team is made before the decision of which episode to play. If you are of opposite alliances, it will act as if a Fed and KDF player were attempting to invite each other to a team: "Allegiance does not match".
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    dastahl wrote: »
    Romulans are intended to be able to team for any mission that is setup properly to allow Romulans to team.

    The only missions that Romulans should not be able to team for are missions that are setup where FED and KDF cannot team for the episode.

    All Romulan episodes should be set to allow all Romulans to team together. If they are not, then its a bug.

    So... This may be a longshot but where my brain goes with that are the potential security loopholes.

    Say you have two Romulans on a team. One goes Fed allied and the other goes KDF allied. (You could be on a team even if not on the same mission map.)

    Then, while still teamed, they visit a mission map together. The Starfleet Academy event pops and one uses the event calendar transwarp to go to the Academy.

    Suddenly a KDF allied Romulan gets the prompt to transfer maps with their teammate.

    I'm going to need to do some testing hands on with this (as this exact method may not be an issue) but my concern are the loopholes that could allow a player into somewhere where they shouldn't be.

    I found and reported one method that allowed Klingons to visit Starfleet Academy and ESD.

    The concern here is that unfriendly Romulans will have similar opportunities in greater numbers because you have the potential for teammates with different transwarps, different event calendars, different fleet starbases, etc.

    I'm mulling over ideas for how to get someone on the wrong faction starbase right now.

    And either way has interesting implications, whether they con as unfriendly (can attack) or friendly (can access vendors).

    I'm eager to get my hands dirty testing and reporting this.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    doffingcomrade wrote: »
    The catch is that the decision to form a team is made before the decision of which episode to play. If you are of opposite alliances, it will act as if a Fed and KDF player were attempting to invite each other to a team: "Allegiance does not match".

    But if you're already on a team when you choose allegiances (not the same map, just on a team together) then you'd presumably stay on a team later?

    I'm pretty sure there's at least an obscure way to bug this out. And it's better to do this on Tribble.
  • grnlbrtnfrntgrnlbrtnfrnt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    So... This may be a longshot but where my brain goes with that are the potential security loopholes.

    Say you have two Romulans on a team. One goes Fed allied and the other goes KDF allied. (You could be on a team even if not on the same mission map.)

    Then, while still teamed, they visit a mission map together. The Starfleet Academy event pops and one uses the event calendar transwarp to go to the Academy.

    Suddenly a KDF allied Romulan gets the prompt to transfer maps with their teammate.

    I'm going to need to do some testing hands on with this (as this exact method may not be an issue) but my concern are the loopholes that could allow a player into somewhere where they shouldn't be.

    I found and reported one method that allowed Klingons to visit Starfleet Academy and ESD.

    The concern here is that unfriendly Romulans will have similar opportunities in greater numbers because you have the potential for teammates with different transwarps, different event calendars, different fleet starbases, etc.

    I'm mulling over ideas for how to get someone on the wrong faction starbase right now.

    And either way has interesting implications, whether they con as unfriendly (can attack) or friendly (can access vendors).

    I'm eager to get my hands dirty testing and reporting this.

    you are thinking about this wrong. just forget there are Romulans. All this is another species choice for Feds or KDF with a few missions attached. Once you make your choice you are more or less say a Tellarite or Orion. There is no Romulan faction.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    grnlbrtnfrnt wrote: »
    you are thinking about this wrong. just forget there are Romulans. All this is another species choice for Feds or KDF with a few missions attached. Once you make your choice you are more or less say a Tellarite or Orion. There is no Romulan faction.

    I'm not concerned with the lore or marketing here.

    I'm concerned with the game mechanics of allowing teaming prior to going Fed or KDF and what can be done with that, mechanically.
  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm pretty sure that the exact method you described, is the exact method used by people to attack the NPCs at the others locations.

    It already exists in game, it's just going to be a lot more widespread.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    dastahl wrote: »
    Romulans are intended to be able to team for any mission that is setup properly to allow Romulans to team.

    The only missions that Romulans should not be able to team for are missions that are setup where FED and KDF cannot team for the episode.

    All Romulan episodes should be set to allow all Romulans to team together. If they are not, then its a bug.


    So in other words Romulan players cannot do Federation or KDF storyline content and vice versa.

    You really need to go through and add factions to complete faciton kill accolades for all sides.
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