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anyone remember "we makeing currency easier and less" yet we got same now.
gespensterjaeger
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hello
anyone here remember the old days we had lots of diffrent marks and badges and emblems.
cryptic said we takeing them all away to make zen and dilithium and easier.
*i thought to myself wow great idea only 2 currencys to think about*
now some time later we have the same amount of diffrent currencys wich area spread out.
anyone else thinking they are going back on the bandwagon ?
dilithium = emblem
zen = c store points
romulan marks = 2nd exploration badge
cxp = diplomatic points and other exploration badges mixed up
omega marks = emblems and exploration 5th class
crystal shards = unknown marks proboly the pvp ones
tholian marks = 3rd exploration badges
and so on and so on.
tell me where is the simple in this ?
wouldent it be just better to have zen and dilithium i mean 2 is simple.
5 and more = not simple
hmmmm cryptic make up your minds ?
anyone here remember the old days we had lots of diffrent marks and badges and emblems.
cryptic said we takeing them all away to make zen and dilithium and easier.
*i thought to myself wow great idea only 2 currencys to think about*
now some time later we have the same amount of diffrent currencys wich area spread out.
anyone else thinking they are going back on the bandwagon ?
dilithium = emblem
zen = c store points
romulan marks = 2nd exploration badge
cxp = diplomatic points and other exploration badges mixed up
omega marks = emblems and exploration 5th class
crystal shards = unknown marks proboly the pvp ones
tholian marks = 3rd exploration badges
and so on and so on.
tell me where is the simple in this ?
wouldent it be just better to have zen and dilithium i mean 2 is simple.
5 and more = not simple
hmmmm cryptic make up your minds ?
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They also said that this is a two faction game.
They also said that the f2p conversion would increase the # of features episodes produced.
They also said that they would "nuke Kerrat".
They also said they would implement a better ai so that pets could avoid warp core breaches.
Things change.
But yes. The # of currencies in sto and nw are a serious barrier to entry.
But it makes money for cryptic so nothing will be done about it.
what he should have said probably was the opposit.
anyway, aslong each currenzy has a purpose i'm ok with it, though definately not delighted by it.
oh wait...latinum still serves no real purpose since 3 years!:D
personally i think LOBI was a misscarriage...should have redone the latinum and used it as what is now LOBI.
It would make much more sense to give a ferengi a pile of latinum and he gives you his ship for it. Lobi just doesn't feel right.
maybe even leave the dabo gamble for some latinum, just raise the stakes from 100 EC to 10k EC to win a few slips of latinum.
they didn't break that one...roms are just overhyped race for both factions. Like the joined trill were before them (granted trills had no own ships)
The complexity of the old currency system was in the levelbanding of the currency, and that by the time most people had earned the marks to buy what they wanted, they were too high a level for the items to be of use too them.
In the current system Dilithium and Fleet Marks can be earned and spent at any level, Omega, Romulan and Tholian Marks along with the Crystal Shards can only be spent at the level cap (Romulan Marks can be earned before the cap with the Mol'Rihan Tribble) meaning that the equipment you buy with it always remains useful.
Along with this each currency has a clear usage, Dilithium is a secondry currency for many items, Fleet, Romulan, Omega and Tholian Marks are used for the fleet/relevant reputation systems, and the Crystal Shards are clearly used in the Event Repuation. I played for several months after launch and never did find out where the individual badge vendors were.
it took them a while, but they kept their word, releasing a second faction in may
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I don't know about any of you, but they were not that bad. Over the natural course of leveling, a player knew how to use them. The badge vendors were quite easy to find, they were mostly at Gamma Orionis or K-7 for Feds and the Great Hall later First City of the KDF.
Since they screwed up leveling (Remember when the devs were complaining that players could level in a weekend with a pack of red bull) or "improved" to get to endgame faster.
Now with the new expansion, more types of currency is being added to the mix.
Zen, Dilithium, EC, GPL are the currencies that can be converted bi-directionally... still too many of them.
As it's been said over and over in countless threads, INCLUDING this one, the idea was to make sure the currencies could be used from the moment they were introduced TO AND INCLUDING endgame. For example, if you could only start earning dilithium after lvl 10, that dilithium would still be as useful at lvl 50 as it were at lvl 10. Get it?
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Which is why I am annoyed that I have BNPs sitting in a corner of my cargo bay.
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We just went through a 'currency consolidation' a while back to get rid of marks, badges, emblems, and make it simpler. They were just going to have EC, Dilithium, GPL.
Now as far as forms of currency we have...
1. Energy Credits
2. Dilithium
3. GPL
4. Expertise
5. Fleet Marks
6. Fleet Credits
7. Omega Marks
8. Romulan Marks
and now we will have...
9. Nukara Marks
Seems like we forgot about the consolidation idea, and I am sure there is probably something I missed in that list.
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BNPs, data samples, particle traces, commodities and doffs come to mind.
Borg neural processors should go in the assets tab by the way. Devs should seriously consider to stop filling my bank and inventory with TRIBBLE such as stones and devices.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Very good point. Some of these do not behave exactly as a currency, but they are expendables. They way they are earned may be similar to XP, but when they are spent, they are gone forever. Your XP total always remains the same.
As others have said, DOffs, Particle Traces, and Rare Traces could also be considered a form of currency. These are closer to Expendables, but they are also open for trade/sale.
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Not as long as inventory space is a marketable resource for Cryptic. They will continue to bury you with nearly useless crafting components and other items.
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Summed up nicely.
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The idea of simplifying currency was to prevent you from having marks that are level specific and become useless when you outlevel them. This cannot and should not be compared to the different reputation systems.
They SHOULD have a variety of currencies and reputations systems available at end game, because all of them remain relevant (you can always turn them in for dilithium) and encourage you to do different things.
Omega/Romulan/Nukara/Fleet marks encourage you to take part in new and different content and get different rewards for each. It is great, and it is confined to end-game.
Let the stupid suffer
Correct! Its about maintaining value through leveling not about the number of currencies.
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Totally agree. Its a waste of inventory space to carry around those items when you don't quite have enough to turn them in again.
Just needs to be accumulated under the Assets tab.
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The problem with having one currency only, is that the "rational" thing to do is play whatever mission gets you that currency fastest, which severely limits game play. Obviously, it is best to do what is most fun, but it is basic human nature to play "rationally". As a player, it is very frustrating to know that the content you most enjoy playing gets you less rewards than if you played other content you dont enjoy.
It is much easier for Cryptic to add a new currency like Romulan marks and a bunch of new missions than it is to try and balance out the rewards so there is no single fastest mission.
In a way then, the more currencies there are, the simpler Cryptic's job is for making and releasing new content, which means more new content faster, which is a good thing.