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A minor oversight on cryptic's part

theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Akira_class

It's not classed as a heavy escort
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    • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      The Intrepid isn't classed as a long range anything, or a science vessel for that matter. The Galaxy isn't classed as an exploration cruiser. The Constitution is classed as a heavy cruiser, basically the opposite of a light cruiser.

      Game mechanics, progression, etc etc same post since 2010.
    • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Akira_class

      It's not classed as a heavy escort

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    • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      Star Trek canon does not have ships broken into Sci, Tac, or Eng - and they do not have Captains broken down that way either. STO is an MMO, not a Trek sim. As an MMO it is required to have certain MMO tropes - and classes are often one of those tropes.
      STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
    • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      Someone is thinking too much into it again. The Akira was intended to be a Carrier of sorts.

      You have to take into account that this is a game, and an mmo at that.....

      Think of STO as a Star Trek Simulator, rather than the tv series.
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    • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      Some of the Captains can be classified by Class. Janeway is obviously a Science Captain. Geordi was an Engineering Captain in that Voyager episode. Although, that is an alternate timeline that no longer exists.
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
      edited April 2013
      I'm not trolling, I'm a trek purist
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      • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
        edited April 2013
        I'm not trolling, I'm a trek purist

        As a Star Trek fan watching it first run starting back in 1969; I'll let you in on a little secret:

        Star Trek (doesn't matter what series or film) has NEVER been 100% internally consistent with itself, EVER! :eek::D

        back in the day, we had a term for these inconsistencies: YATI = "Yet Another Trek Inconsistency" - and the trick was; when you spotted one, you flagged it as such, and attempted to come up with a rationalization (that was always the fun part) that twisted it o somewhat fit (some inconsistencies are easier to explain away then others of course.)

        but my point? How can you be a "Star Trek Purist", when the Star Trek Franchise is anything but "pure"? (and it this case I mean 100% internally consistent.)

        let it go, and just learn to embrace the various inconsistencies and you'll have a better fan experience with the whole thing.:)
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      • seansamurai1seansamurai1 Member Posts: 634 Arc User
        edited April 2013
        As it stands, an officer who specialises in for example science is that, right up until they take the chair. They may have a background in science officer so might go at something a different way but they still have to do the same training to think like a tactician (same goes for real world Navies as well, plenty of pilots and air engineers sitting in the skippers chair).
        But this is a game, so certain things have to be done differently, otherwise everyone would be an uber elite awesome super sci/tac/engi captain.

        The ships are the same, they have been broken into categories to make it easier to select a ship/ships.
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      • tlamstriketlamstrike Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited April 2013
        Of course it is not a heavy escort, very few Federation ships are classified as anything other than "Starships". The few exceptions have been the Constitution and Ambassador (Heavy Cruiser), Constellation (Star Cruiser), The New Orleans (Frigate) and Defiant (Escort). That is going by only what is said in the show not in any books or secondary material. There were some Dreadnoughts and Scouts etc mentioned or shown on displays in the 1st two Star Trek films but those are ones that really push the envelope on canon.

        Now I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret about ship classifications...

        ready?

        They are meaningless designations

        In reality you can shoehorn in a ship to just about any classification. For example in reality the term "Frigate" and "Cruiser" have been used interchangeably for centuries. In 1975 the US Navy declared that all nuclear powered Frigates were now "Cruisers" the existing Light Guided Missile Cruisers (which had not been renamed Frigates for some reason) now became "Cruisers" as well, while all the other Frigates were now "Destroyers", all the Escorts were now "Frigates", the Destroyers remained Destroyers except for the one class that was so awesome they became Cruisers, and the Anti-Sub, Attack, Escort and Helicopter carriers became simply "Aircraft Carriers". Confused yet? It gets worse, just because two ships are Frigates or Cruisers doesn't mean they have anything close to the same capabilities.

        The Coast Guard fortunately avoid the whole situation when long ago they simply declared anything they own that floats a "Cutter".

        The down side of the fantastic ability to mix and match ship class parts in STO means that all these ships that would most likely just be called a Something-class ship must now be a Adjective-Verb-Noun-class ship simply so we know what the heck someone is talking about.

        I like to think of it this way, all the names like Fleet Escort Carrier, Long Range Science Vessel, Deep Space Tactical Battle Frigate or whatever is just something thought up by some engineer at Utopia Planitia trying to get his project funded.
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      • benovidebenovide Member Posts: 397
        edited April 2013
        If you want to get Trekkie, the Akira was a Frigate. Not an escort, the Steamrunner was also a Frigate.

        Several cruisers they have fed side were actually science ships in show.

        Ship classes don't mean much, what matters is the bridge layout, console layout, and that's pretty much it. (aside from damage modifiers shield modifiers etc)
      • kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
        edited April 2013
        A minor oversight on cryptic's part...


        http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Akira_class

        It's not classed as a heavy escort
        Really? Seriously? When everything else is just absolutely perfect?

        ;)
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