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startrek1234567
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I know that some of you lifers would be mad about this but let me explain why it would be fair.
Gold members have to pay around 15.00 a month, and if you are a gold member that adds up over time. I have been playing STO for a long time now and im pretty sure i paid more than 300 dollars by now. More than a life sub cost.
I was thinking that the long term gold members(people playing for at least 21 months, and have been gold members for that long) should get some unique rewards of their own.
1. A unique ship. I know they will eventually get this but lifers get it immediately(chimera). I was thinking one as good as lifers with a unique console. They can choose the Chimera or the other unique ship. They cannot have both. I can do with or without this.
2. A unique weapon. IDK like a advanced phaser spiral lance, that can go on any cruiser, a cool ground weapon, idk. Suggestions?
3. Finally, a unique forum and in game title. Like "loyal officer", Fleet admiral, etc.
Im suggesting this because i cannot pay 300 dollars all at once, i have to spread my money out. Im sure there are still gold members out there too that may want this kind of stuff.
If this is going to happen, at least include a unique ground weapon and title.
*by the way if this feels to you this is more rewards than a life sub. Keep in mind getting gold member privileges and not having to pay for them any longer is its own reward.
Thanks for reading.
Gold members have to pay around 15.00 a month, and if you are a gold member that adds up over time. I have been playing STO for a long time now and im pretty sure i paid more than 300 dollars by now. More than a life sub cost.
I was thinking that the long term gold members(people playing for at least 21 months, and have been gold members for that long) should get some unique rewards of their own.
1. A unique ship. I know they will eventually get this but lifers get it immediately(chimera). I was thinking one as good as lifers with a unique console. They can choose the Chimera or the other unique ship. They cannot have both. I can do with or without this.
2. A unique weapon. IDK like a advanced phaser spiral lance, that can go on any cruiser, a cool ground weapon, idk. Suggestions?
3. Finally, a unique forum and in game title. Like "loyal officer", Fleet admiral, etc.
Im suggesting this because i cannot pay 300 dollars all at once, i have to spread my money out. Im sure there are still gold members out there too that may want this kind of stuff.
If this is going to happen, at least include a unique ground weapon and title.
*by the way if this feels to you this is more rewards than a life sub. Keep in mind getting gold member privileges and not having to pay for them any longer is its own reward.
Thanks for reading.
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That would be the best choice imo. They currently have a Zen and Lockbox Key sale, won't be long till a lifetime sale again.
As a gold member what I'd like is upgrading to lifetime paying a very low special price... all in all every new ship/item is always a z-store ship/item and after 2-3 years I paid (much) more than a lifetime member. To be onest a 3 years old recurring subscription should be upgraded to lifetime for free.
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
you already GET the 100 day, 200 day... etc rewards for being gold.
you are getting more if you go LFT.
now, if you do not have 200 dollars to give away at once, you can save month for month till you have it and buy a LFT and never worry again.
i agree that giving all LFT the 1000 day veteran status was not a wise step on Cryptics side though.
i can only agree with the yellow part.
this is a F2P game, they are not really making money on subs.
Notice you can still pay per Credit Card directly when buying LFT or going gold, but you cannot buy Zen that way. It would appear that PWE is not really interested in LFT or sub money so they are leaving that one for Cryptic to manage.
Also, how many gold/lft people are there? imho the dev resources are better used by creating content for ALL of us.
I know this is a f2p game, but this doesn't mean that a gold member or a lifetime member have enough for their money. Acutually I am a gold member only because I accepted a special offer, so I pay about 10 euro/month (and 5 of them came back to me as zen points).
Sometime I think about becoming a lifetime member but what stop me is the lack of new contents... space stfs are actually obsolete, too easy and too repetitive (only the hive is a bit more difficult, but just a bit), pvp is obscene and I do not know how many months I will play THIS sto.
You can pay your subscription by credit card and still use it to buy zen... And I think that you can have a f2p game with some reserved content (not items or ships, but missions) for gold/lifetime member.
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
If you've subscribed for that long you deserve pity. At month 21, you've paid more than a full-priced Lifetime. You should have just sucked it up and bought Lifetime along time ago.
also the life membership says something about 2 extra bridge officer slots....does it mean i can have 2 extra in every ship?
you dont have to open every box
as for the 2 extra BO slots...its just that....you get 2 additional BO slots added to your active roster, not to any ships.
Things that can be added easily:
Lifer tailor: Full colour palette on each faction for every costumepiece (kinda like that costumeslot command) so they can stand out in bright burn your eyes out green/yellow/orange/pink in KHG or MACO uniform.
Enhanced XP: We currently get a bonus to normal XP but it would be nice to get a perminant one for CXP.
Bonus trait: Not something OP but certainly something worth having or maybe a bonus trait slot would be good or both.
Bridge officer seller: Sells V.Rare boffs like photonic, android and other special officers (maybe even an exocomp?) in whatever flavour suits you. 1 Per character and bound on pick up would deter people from spamming the exchange with them and non subs getting them.
Special Skill trainer: Will train your bridge officers in captain trainable abilities without the need to keep swapping boffs and so you can choose bound boffs and have them use whatever ability you want.
Just some ideas to get the ball rolling, personally I'd love to have a better tailor =D
Oh and tow other things, the 1000 day ship should be upgraded to fleet quality just like the JHAS was and please make the captains table have more features and a transwarp directly to it.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
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This is the last thing I will post.
You get that stipend every month. So you'd open those 30 boxes in some 7 months.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
But ultimately there is (and should be) no distinction between lifers and other subscribers, as they are just two different methods of paying for the same thing. Which one you pick is your choice for financial reasons, and I don't think that that should change.
I absolutely believe that all subscribers should get access to more unique stuff; nothing that breaks balance, but currently the only unique ship is the Chimera which is an escort (the KDF version is much the same I think?), it'd be nice to see some experimental cruiser and science ship options. It might also be nice to see the unique ships available a bit sooner but in a weaker form, with the 1000+ ships being the "fleet" versions.
It'd be nice to see subscribers get some new options for multiple characters; since the Romulan faction will apparently have access to (some?) Federation and KDF ships then it might be nice if subscribers could transfer relevant ships to a new Romulan character, complete with all the equipment they've put onto it. You know, reduce the grind a bit.
Game Balance - Ship Size and Wingmates
Im not really posting my idea for financial reasons, but i mean gold members did earn their veteran awards by working for them, playing for a long time. While lifers, again get them in 5 minutes and could leave like a week later.
Im not saying Gold members should get better awards than lifers, but at least give them something unique for earning their rewards by actually being "veterans".
Like, the person you chatted with in zone one day could be a lifer, but also have been playing for only a week.
Game Balance - Ship Size and Wingmates
what im saying is gold members did it the hard way by actually playing 100's of days. Im not saying that lifers did not earn the vet awards. 300 dollars is good enough to get it, again what im saying is, is that gold members have actually played 100's of days to earn those veteran awards, while, again lifers got them the instant they paid for their lifers sub. Im not saying that lifers have not played 100's of days, but they already got the vet awards before hand(unless you were playing game before instant vet awards got added to lifers sub)
On another note, veteran does not mean "i payed 300 dollars", it means "i have been playing for a long time". Thats one of the problems i have with the "starfleet veteran" and "KDF veteran" forum title choices. Some people may have that title option and have been playing a week.
All im asking is for atleast some small, unique rewards for gold members.
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Still this is getting off topic. As for the OP yes Gold members have paid more for their sub now but when the game first launched lifers were taking a big risk with paying all that 21 months of sub up front I when the game could quite easily have gone after a year. Even going lifer now isn't without it's risks, who's to say it will end up worthwhile if the game shuts down in 6 months as LoR didn't draw in enough people?
The option to pay monthly afforded you protection from things like that as you would save money if it went south, if it I didn't and the game carried on then you end up paying more. Yes a few people sub because they can't afford it all in one go but it's not like they didn't get a benefit from subbing.
Like I said earlier if you have subbed for 1000days I do think you should be made lifer to be honest, you've paid your dues, more than lifers so you should be recognised for it.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
I think another player already said it, but let me say it again.
Buy the LTS, you are nuts if you keep paying for gold if you know you gonna play anyway, save up and buy the damn lifetime already.
No free Lifetime Subsciption for anyone, if we payed for it so must others and not counting the gold months as payments.
Would be nice for gold to unlock a FULL color spectrum when choosing colors for a ship, that pastel sorta color stuff is UGLY.
Or maybe a nice new scaling (uneven only) rifle, perhaps as seen on TNG/TNG films.
Previously known as MGDawson.
Lifer since April 2010, and open beta tester.
Say "NO" to the Tier 5 Constitution!
It's really not an escort. The ship calls itself a destroyer, and it lives in some kind of no man's land between an escort and a cruiser. A lot of players do look at it as an escort, though, and get frustrated when it doesn't live up to the top tier escort options.
The KDF version is, as far as I can remember, basically a pallet swap, with a cloaking device. (Ironically, I actually fly the KDF version, and don't have a fed using a Chimera at the moment.)
Though, I do agree, it would be nice to see some more alternate veteran ships.
I do have a LTS. Considering the benefits you get and keep from subbing for a month and canceling it I have felt very underwhelmed by LTS. Though the 500 Zen is always nice when it comes in and has slowly unlocked most costumes for me.
Starke I'm in the same boat with the 1000 day ship, KDF YAY, Fed..er I'll just use the defiant. Though made correctly you could easily get one of the best beam boats in the game doing about 12-14k DPS and the console would definitely add to crits
Matt I agree there needs to be more stuff and vanity is the best way to do it. I'd love to be able to properly customize my appearance with no limitations on costumes pieces and colours especially KDF side...capes would be awesome ;-)
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
Gold subs who have been around for 1000 days get the exact same ships Lifers get. Those are Vet Reward ships, not Lifer-exclusive. Sure, it's longer than 21 months, but that's how the Vet Rewards are done.
There are no Vet Reward weapons, I don't see why there should be any added. And as for titles, again, you get several of those in your Vet Rewards.
I'm sorry. But you're complaining about Vet Rewards you're going to get anyway if you stick around a while. The only difference between an LTS and a 1000-day Vet is the Lib. Borg playable species, a title, and a combadge. There's absolutely no reason a Gold should get anything else and a Lifer not get it as well.
But when you get right down to it, that's the big thing about an LTS. You can either save up and buy it once, never having to worry about it again, or you potentially pay a lot more and sub the whole time. Neither is a small investment, and if you can't or won't go LTS, well, that's no one's problem but yours. You're already getting rewarded for it every 100 days to the 1000th, there's nothing much else you can really ask for in that department. At least, nothing an LTS shouldn't get, too.
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You assume that LTS stop supporting the game after getting their membership. I got my LTS in the closed beta, and have since continued to support the game through C-points and now Zen. You are also forgetting that LTS are gold members, so anything cryptic would give you, would also be given to LTS at the same time.
Alternatively, Cryptic could pro-rate the LTS or simply give it to people who've subscribed for 20 months or more.
It's not as if they're going to be losing out. They "nerfed" the Vice Admiral ship token, they "nerfed" at least the com-badge veteran reward, and the 500 zen isn't exactly breaking the bank given that players are paying $15 a month for it (the rest of the Gold-benefits are lost when the sub ends).
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No i dont assume any of that. On another note, Im subscribing 15.00 a month AND buying stuff off c-store.