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Best PVE ship for Sci ?
captainobvious09
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I have been saving my credits for a while, I am wondering what is the best "ship-in-a-box" for a Sci officer to to Elites.
I currently am running a Vesta, but the damage is really low, and one shot form a borg cube and I am toast.
Ideas???
I currently am running a Vesta, but the damage is really low, and one shot form a borg cube and I am toast.
Ideas???
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As far as getting 1-shot by a Borg Cube: it happens to everyone at times.
I love playing the regular Nova and Intrepid. Haven't played their T5 or fleet versions nor have i touched the Vesta so can't really comment on that.
Looking at how resilient a regular Intrepid is in Aegis or Reman gear i would play with those before spending a lot of cash on fleet/C-store versions.
When i fly my Intrepid i rarely get killed, in fact i never got killed since last week's update and i tanked gates, tac cubes and donatra.
Edit: why not test the Mirror Deep Space or Mirror Reconnaissance. Not too expensive at exchange last time i checked
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If you want to be all about damage as a Sci Officer, put your captain in an Escort. The Feds have a GREAT selection of faction specific escorts to choose from, depending on your tastes. After all, this game is heavily, heavily slanted towards "DPS or Nothing," judging by instance time and kill requirements that permeate this game. I won't blame you for stuffing your Sci Officer in one.
If you want to use alot of Sci abilities, Starfleet has a great stable of sci vessels. Within these ships you'll see different groupings depending on BOFF assignments. The list is here.
In general, there's 3 styles of Sci Vessels, depending on what they're slanted towards.
TAC - A good dose of TAC BOFF assignments. Fleet Nova (Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit) is an excellent example and an actually tempting choice. Other than being the only Starfleet designed Sci Vessel with TAC BOFF slot higher than Lt, it boasts a nice turn rate of 15, which is Escort territory.
ENG - A good helping of ENG BOFF assignments, makes for a much more rugged Sci Vessel and options for toying around more with subsystem power. A good example is the underrated Fleet Adv.Research Vessel Retrofit (Fleet Nebula). Can be made quite rugged, which is a nice plus in PVP and ESTFs. The Fleet Research Science Vessel Retrofit is in a somewhat similar role with the Nebula as having nice Engineering, but it is also more nimbler than the Nebula but less hull. The Fleet Nebula is the closest thing you will have as a Fed in STO to play alot of Sci stuff but still want to have the "feel" of a TNG style of Cruiser. Nothing else in the Fed lineup will bring that immersion.
SCI - All in for Sci BOFF abilities. If you want to sling out Science abilities like Escorts throw out torpedoes and cannon fire, than these ships are what you want. Examples include the Intrepids, Fleet Reconnaissance Science Vessel, and ever popular Fleet Deep Space Science Vessel
Because I have low funds and a cheap TRIBBLE especially since Romulans are coming in May.
Seriously, it's because I find it hard getting EC above 200k since I am a casual player.:o
The state of the game does have me saddened as I love pure science and have several science ships including C-Store ones, but ... damage is king now, and science is nerfed due to PVP balance.
I also love Carriers but the ones that do not move are just annoying to me, so that is why I purchased the Vesta, but it too does not seem to bring enough heat.
At this point I am thinking the Jem Heavy Escort Carrier, or the Temporal Destroyer.
Does anyone have any other ideas, please share. (or I could wait until Roms comes out)
the best ship for a sci is probably one of the escorts (tho that is generally true for every other class too, simply because of game design)
the best sci ship is the Vesta (it is not only the highest dps sci ship, but one of the highest dps ships in the game). so if you are not doing dmg with it, its not a fault with the ship
edit: and it even has competitive DHCs (not the best tho) so even in that department you are fine
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
also sci is not for having dps, sci is for support, want dps go play kdf tac
It also has 2 wings of pets as it is a mini-carrier, and that bonus console beam attack. It's DPS capability is A-OK for STO end-game. The rest is just arguing over adjectives.
it loses one DHC for a hangar slot. latter does not drain power (making the rest of the weapons stronger), so it not only will be more versitile, but will also deal considerable damage.
and the vesta can also build up sensor analysis pretty fast, so again, that builds up dmg too. it is on par with federation escorts, and only lacking in turn rate against them. so yeah, it is one of the highest dps ships
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Can put out some great damage, and the 2 universal slots mean you can get some good tac options on a science ship OR go full out brutal science.
I own a Wells, and compared to a carrier or Vesta, no, the Wells can't put out great damage.
Not to mention, if you go plasma, install the usual plasma TAC consoles, you can also opt to go with the Embassy SCI consoles with Plasma infused damage to boost them up even more. Since the Vesta is a SCI vessel with a bunch of SCI console slots...
It's nice to fly a new ship, and I was tempted by the Wells, but I keep getting mixed messages from different people about it. That makes me not want to save and drop that much EC on Keys or direct purchase from the exchange only for the same or even maybe less damage output. So I spent cash on XI purples + used purple drops.
At the moment I think I've gone almost as far as I can go with the Sci Vesta dps-wise. The only ship that could top this is the Aventine, but I may have to drop one of my universal consoles for the extra tac slot.
Tacs actually do better in a Vesta then a sci, IMO. Their captain abilities actually buff the damage of the ship and her console, where in the Atrox so much damage comes from the scorps that tac abilities mean far less.
Sorry, I do not have any first hand experience with boxed ships.
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Conclusion: if you want to increase your DPS, the Vesta is the clear choice. While science ships are designed primarily to support fellow players, this is easily done (especially with the Fermion field console) whilst maintaining a high DPS with the cannons.
P.S. If you find the turn rate a bit low, you could always equip the Tachyokinetic converter or an RCS Accellerator, however, given that most escorts have around 15 and the Vesta has 12, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. In fact I recommend you add the Converter anyway; it's a very useful console for any ship, especially science officers, given the graviton and critical hit boost.
You asked for suggestions and you got them. To gain money, goto Star fleet academy, personnel officer assignments and sell them on the exchange.
Easy to do and it brings good cash. Getting commodities like jevonite near ds9 and selling them on the exchange.
These ships are below 90k EC which is incredibly cheap and they will give you a good sci experience.
In a month you can have 20 million EC just from doing the normal 8k daily grind.
tacs do better in all ships...
also on paper the atrox is beaten by the dreadnought's dps. you lose sensor analysis for another front weapon (and if you go full dps, dhcs you will also have better turnrate) and better boff layout for dealing dmg
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2