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No ETA on Our Ability to Make Romulan Missions

kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
In latest dev blog thread, dstahl says:
At launch, Romulans will not be able to play Foundry missions until they choose an ally, and then they can only play Foundry missions created for that Ally. As many have suggested, we will be adding a new filter that will allow Foundry authors to create Romulan specific missions that only Romulans (allied with* either faction) can fly and team together for. No ETA has been provided at this point.

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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You left out "edited so Kirksplat isn't confused anymore..." :D

    I think getting Romulan Foundry mission editing at launch was a bit too much to hope for. Look on the bright side: we'll have time to familiarize ourselves with the new faction before the Foundry is unlocked.
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited April 2013
    As we often say on the Roundtable, Foundry authors are really the last to be thought of in pretty much everything, much as some believe we somehow control Cryptic...

    Still, it's close to what I wanted or at least it will be eventually, so I'm cool as long as they follow through.
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  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    as long as they follow through.

    This is my issue. They've never followed through when it comes to relating the Foundry to a seasonal push of content. Big empty holodeck on a starbase... no follow-through. Lots of new sets, ships, costumes, etc... very little makes its way into the Foundry. Reputation systems.... no follow-through with the Foundry.

    I'm angry that our EP didn't have this conversation:

    "Ok, so we're adding a new faction that needs content. What can we do to help UGC authors help our new faction? The least that we can do is turn the thing on and give them Romulan stuff to use."

    Instead, it seems like the Foundry is an afterthought, always on the back-burner for later. Often, there never is a later, as the whole team shifts to some new push.
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited April 2013
    kirksplat wrote: »
    it seems like the Foundry is an afterthought, always on the back-burner for later. Often, there never is a later, as the whole team shifts to some new push.

    You just getting this now?
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  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    As we often say on the Roundtable, Foundry authors are really the last to be thought of in pretty much everything, much as some believe we somehow control Cryptic...

    Still, it's close to what I wanted or at least it will be eventually, so I'm cool as long as they follow through.

    True that. The Foundry is kind of the red headed step child of Sto. That said we do get a lot of the stuff we ask for since Sto listens to the community more than the other online gaming communities I have been involved in *cough* Need for speed world *cough* (I really hope Cryptic does not ruin Sto by opening it to new markets like that game. It is plagued by lag due to all the latin american players on the north american server and then there are all of the Russian hackers. Their reach has exceeded their grasp if you want a truly international game you need more servers.). It probably would behoove us foundry players to not ask for anything non foundry related on the forums.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    At launch, Romulans will not be able to play Foundry missions until they choose an ally, and then they can only play Foundry missions created for that Ally. As many have suggested, we will be adding a new filter that will allow Foundry authors to create Romulan specific missions that only Romulans (allied with* either faction) can fly and team together for. No ETA has been provided at this point. *edited so Kirksplat isn't confused anymore...
    wow.... that was hilarious. :)

    Anyways, hopefully it won't be long.
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  • skydawnknightskydawnknight Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    wow.... that was hilarious. :)

    Anyways, hopefully it won't be long.

    I would say now is the time to start building some Romulan missions in anticipation of when the eventuality of this new filter hits, but I'm still going to wait till May to even think about it anyway. With the amount of work that goes into a good mission, I'd hate to spend hours putting one together only to find out that it's going to be another six months to a year until it's implemented.
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited April 2013
    You'll be able to make missions for Romulans right away, they'll just have to be on Fed or KDF side, then you can convert them later. For the time being we'll just have to plaster them with notes saying "THIS MISSION IS FOR ROMULAN CAPTAINS ONLY"

    I will be doing this, and I'll warn you now that I may not react kindly to those Federation captains who ignore the warning labels.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This is a touch disappointing, but I'm glad it is coming although it depends on how long it takes. if we are talking a month then that's fine.

    in fact the first couple of weeks the foundry will probably be offline as they make sure its not broken after a big patch update, and it would probably be a good idea if people played the official content and got a feel of the story anyway.

    Foundry missions are great but there is nothing worse than playing an official mission and an hour later playing a foundry mission that totally contradicts it.

    There is also the chance the first month may be a bit buggy and have issues to resolve, issues that will most likely affect foundry scores so a small gap between them being opened up is fine by me, and even has its advantages.

    If it becomes 3 months + with no fix in sight then that will be more annoying.
  • muarenmuaren Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I think maybe they're having issues with friend/foe groups, especially with this choosing an ally feature.

    Then there's the Hirogen. Will they be friend or foe?
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited April 2013
    That's an issue I hadn't thought of.

    What it sounds like to me is that they had planned to just allow the Romulans to do Fed or KDF missions and that was it till we started posting and prodding (gently, I swear) them about an exclusive mission listing. It wasn't something they planned for, but they want to do it now and can't put someone on it until after the May launch.
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  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    muaren wrote: »
    I think maybe they're having issues with friend/foe groups, especially with this choosing an ally feature.

    Then there's the Hirogen. Will they be friend or foe?

    I didn't think of this, lol. It's interesting. How are we going to write missions without knowing how the player is allied?
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  • muarenmuaren Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kirksplat wrote: »
    I didn't think of this, lol. It's interesting. How are we going to write missions without knowing how the player is allied?

    For me personally, I would love to see the author choose whether a species was friend or foe.
    Of course I'd love to see this in all three factions and don't expect it.
  • skydawnknightskydawnknight Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kirksplat wrote: »
    I didn't think of this, lol. It's interesting. How are we going to write missions without knowing how the player is allied?

    My thought is that once a character chooses their ally, then they would be limited to the Foundry mission pool of that ally (either the Fed list or the KDF list). They can't choose to play missions on their own before then anyway since it happens at lvl 10. Which means the point of this "filter" that's being added is so that you can still choose Romulan specific missions, but within whichever faction that particular character is limited to.

    However, if I'm right about that, what that does mean in the end is that if we are making Rom specific missions, we would have to set the allegiance to either Federation or Klingon, the same as any other mission.

    Edit: OK, I just reread the notes. It sounds like I'm wrong and that Roms from both sides will be able to do these missions. Now I know the reason for the initial confusion. :P I sincerely hope that is the case.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    muaren wrote: »
    I think maybe they're having issues with friend/foe groups, especially with this choosing an ally feature.

    Then there's the Hirogen. Will they be friend or foe?
    This is a HUGE question. the simplest answer is we'll have to wait and see.

    I'm hoping they'll give us the ability to set friend/foe flags on AIs. that'd simplify a lot.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hirogen will probably be enemies by default, since they're aligned with the Tal Shiar/Star Empire. But I do hope we get the functionality to set mobs as friendly/enemy soon.
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It's a pathetic state of affairs. Literally the worst of all worlds.

    Romulan players will be taking missions constructed around the premise that they are Starfleet or KDF officers. I thought Romulans were a full faction and not taking orders from aliens?

    I wouldn't want Romulans playing my Fed or KDF missions, and I wouldn't want to list my Romulan missions so that Feds or KDF players can see them.

    The whole LoR situation sucks.
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