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salamiinferno
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Any comments, questions, concerns, and bugs for the whole trait revamp goes right here!
We'll be allowing unlimited free respecs from a vendor for testing soon! I'll update the thread with information on how to get them once they're up and running.
Update! You can now get free respecs on Drozana station. There is a console called "Test Special Items" that the you can use to get all the free respecs you want. Please use them to test out different builds, traits, etc, and please leave your feedback!
We'll be allowing unlimited free respecs from a vendor for testing soon! I'll update the thread with information on how to get them once they're up and running.
Update! You can now get free respecs on Drozana station. There is a console called "Test Special Items" that the you can use to get all the free respecs you want. Please use them to test out different builds, traits, etc, and please leave your feedback!
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power creep has benefited both spike damage and healing, but done nothing for pressure, or directly counters it. with all the proc and rep heals, pressure from an engineer deals a net of 0 damage. not even tac captains dealing pressure damage can make a dent anymore.
this trait would at least help a little, and if not just for eng, for all captain types.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
Sure footed now sounds like a healers dream trait.. killing a good healer without a proper stun (which is usually a knockdown when we talk ground) will be quiete a class balance problem.
Also im seeing that nothing seems to have been done yet to address the issue that the only trait on ground offering a bonus to dodge is the caitian feline instincts trait and since the dodge is (and will remain) the single most important stat in ground pvp none of the other races really has become any more viable by any of those changes.
Or maybe chance passive to boast power when power get drain past 50% of its powerlevels... some thing other then a trait that literally forces us to use batteries more often and waste ec on them.
If the base ability that it modifies was better it would be a more appealing trait, but in its current form I definitely wouldn't spec it.
AlienGen characters will have four useful traits picked for them at character creation based on whether they are creating Tactical, Engineering, or Science captains. When they respec, they will be able to spec all 9 of their Trait Slots from any of their Trait options - they have higher versatility than all other species still, but the gap between AlienGen and non-AlienGen characters in terms of overall Trait usefulness should now be drastically reduced as compared to before.
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How about a trait that reduces max speed while hit by any control power by 50%?
Joined - 9/2011
"You Best Make Peace With Your Dear & Fluffy Lord" - Malcolm Reynolds
Did you click "Activate" and then click "Commit Traits"? It worked for me.
My initial feedback is that I think a lot of the racial traits need another balance pass.
Several races have had multiple traits combined into a single, mega-trait.
Some of these mega-traits seem to outclass other similar racial traits.
I understand you wanted to balance Aliens vs. Standard races, but perhaps add a few Alien only traits to choose from?
It's not the biggest deal, but for the longest time the standard races have been, quite frankly, pretty bad from a performance and balance perspective.
Alien Flexibility advantage has been reduced pretty heavily now with 8 traits available to all, with races having single mega-traits with multiple benefits.
I think a lot fewer players would ever have chosen Aliens in this trait system.
Joined - 9/2011
"You Best Make Peace With Your Dear & Fluffy Lord" - Malcolm Reynolds
that said.. i thought "all klingon races have physical traits and feds have mental traits"
maybe some traits, like physical strength level can be chosen by a scrollbar. more strength causes more vulnerability to mental or psychic attacks...
and more psychic abilities cause vulnerabilities to physical attacks...
so as you go up on the rollbar, the physical strength benefit causes a tapering in mental resistances...
this might help balancing.
and elusive isnt even an option
:mad:UNACCEPTABLE:mad:
please tell me its just buggy still and that the 2 most impotent space traits, acc and elusive, are not barred on some species. you CANT do that:mad:
Last Ditch Effort makes Go Down Fighting seem a bit over the top, with a 3x stack giving an extra +30% resistance. Most escorts can go down to 20% hull, hit their Oh S*** buffs and be back at 100% in a under half a minute, especially with the 2x Borg set heal proc.
As for crippling fire, I haven't had a chance to test that out on a player yet. However, with the amount of crits people are doing nowadays, chances are a 3x stack will be pretty easy. Not only will it be hugely annoying in PvP, but it'll make PvE even easier.
Personally I'd say remove the stacking, atleast from GDF.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Definitely not intended, though I'm not seeing it occur for me. All class-specific traits stand alone. Grace Under Fire should require you to be at least Captain rank, however, as it (along with Photonic Capacitor and Last Ditch Effort) modify Captain-rank abilities.
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Twitter: @JeffAHamilton
The same thing seems to happen with the Tac traits.
The character I tested on was L50.
Grace Under Pressure is very strong. No complaints really, as long as the trait only triggers when Miracle Worker is on cooldown.
The battery trait is strong, but requires the use of expandable items. While the EC cost of normal batteries isn't staggering, it can still add up, plus they only stack to 20, so they create an inventory headache if you're using a lot of them. No one else has a trait based on expendables. This trait would probably be better if it worked off of Emergency Power to X instead of batteries, since those are engineering abilities and don't cost anything but an ability slot. Either that or let engineers buy batteries at a discount and stack them to 100.
The ground traits, I dunno. Turrets, etc are really useful, so any resistance or regen is going to have some use, but the values seem very low. I probably wouldn't take it, even though I make constant use of pets. Better to grab a different ground trait, IMO.
The resistance trait also, would be amazing as a space power (OP, really) shields last 1-2 hits on the ground before you need to get cover, and even with the shield heals and resist powers they don't last very long. Not sure if even the fully stacked resist will matter more than any non engineer ground powers.
Tac powers all seem very strong. Science ground powers seem very strong. I need to test the space powers to see what I think.
I saw several space traits that didn't show up until some other trait had been taken, I think maybe it's just a display issue? I didn't keep track of all of them, but Astrophysicist didn't show up until I took Accurate and Grace Under Fire didn't show up until I had taken some ground trait (don't remember specifically). This was on a transferred level 50 character, so I could probably retransfer him and check again.
Edit: maybe because it's level restricted, only certain slots can actually have the trait? I'll try to check when it becomes available when I try again.
Level 50 Aliengen Engineer
Immediately after transfer:
Current Traits:
Elusive, Warp Theorist, Techie, Efficient Captain
Available Space Traits:
Accurate, Astrophysicist, EPS Manifold Efficiency
Available Ground Traits:
Acute Senses, Aggressive, Cold Blooded, Covert, Creative, Lucky, Mental Discipline, Nanomolecular Architect, Natural Immunities, Peak Health, Physical Strength, Resilient, Shield Harmonic Resonance, Soldier, Stubborn, Sturdy, Sure Footed, Telepathic
Grace Under Fire did not appear as a selectable trait until the 7th slot, regardless of the combination of new traits I tried to take, and disappeared again if I removed one of my newly selected traits. I was unable to replicate the disappearing Astrophysicist trait on this test.
The 6th slot on normal characters (and I assume therefore the 7th slot on an Aliengen due to the extra Optional) is the Captain slot, so it's probably a slot restriction on the trait.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
Not quite on topic, but is it reasonable to assume that you were, at one point, an Arbiter?
On topic though, good basis, however, I am concerned when it goes live how we will obtain respecs [since inevitable, I'll make mistakes
So I created a new Aliengen character to see how this would work. I created an Aliengen Engineer and it gave me Stubborn, Lucky, Warp Theorist, and Techie as my 4 optionals, but it also gave me a Regenerative racial trait (passive shield regen on the ground, faster out of combat health healing). You're saying that the optionals and the racial were chosen based on my career choice, and the racial could be removed via respec later? I also created a Liberated Borg Engineer and he got 3 Optionals and 1 Racial at character creation, and I couldn't select a 4th optional from the list despite having an open slot (also, Techie was labeled as Warp Theorist on the free list despite having the correct icon and description).
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
You should consider PVE too, not only PVP.
There, the ability to pop miracle worker again would help against the elite invisible torpedoes.
Point noted, and I definitely hear you guys on this one, but EPS Manifold Efficiency also interacts with the Capacitor power on Very Rare quality warp cores, so it's not strictly limited to consumables. That should probably be explicitly spelled out in the tooltip - I'll get that fixed asap.
Systems Designer - Cryptic Studios
Twitter: @JeffAHamilton
I see it too.