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Mulciber Class Vessel (Carrier Type)

alexandusalexandus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
just figured I would post this here, considering that I have, since about season 3, wanted a true Federation Carrier. Not an Atrox, not the equivalent of a Flight Deck Cruiser, but something that actually looks like a Federation starship i.e. nacelles/saucer, the whole bit.

Since I used to pray to the STO Gods (and went largely unanswered due to legal reasons), I bring forward this link:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mulciber_class

If this doesn't scream "Carrier!", I dont know what does.
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    daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    alexandus wrote: »
    just figured I would post this here, considering that I have, since about season 3, wanted a true Federation Carrier. Not an Atrox, not the equivalent of a Flight Deck Cruiser, but something that actually looks like a Federation starship i.e. nacelles/saucer, the whole bit.

    Since I used to pray to the STO Gods (and went largely unanswered due to legal reasons), I bring forward this link:

    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mulciber_class

    If this doesn't scream "Carrier!", I dont know what does.

    oh for the love of.....We have a FEDERATION carrier, what you want is a STARFLEET CARRIER!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!!!.


    on a less angry note, yes it does sound like a carrier. a good one.

    but I would think the Jupiter class would take over as a Starfleet carrier.
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    travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    No, no more carriers for the Federation. Not only is the pet spam bad enough in certain situations, but the Federation never NEEDED the things to begin with. Just be happy with your Armitage and Atrox carriers, sheesh.
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    sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    travelingmaster wrote: »
    No, no more carriers for the Federation. Not only is the pet spam bad enough in certain situations, but the Federation never NEEDED the things to begin with. Just be happy with your Armitage and Atrox carriers, sheesh.

    If you're seriously finding yourself swamped by small craft in fights, you are a bad starship captain and you should feel bad.
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    alexandusalexandus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    travelingmaster wrote: »
    No, no more carriers for the Federation. Not only is the pet spam bad enough in certain situations, but the Federation never NEEDED the things to begin with. Just be happy with your Armitage and Atrox carriers, sheesh.

    Not really sure what to tell you about PvP, since i dont PvP at all...but thats another post altogether. I am talking from a standpoint of the KDF having a true-to-life carrier (2 hangar bays), and Starfleet having 0. Yes the Federation side has the Atrox as a carrier, but its a Caitian Carrier, not a Starfleet one...

    I wont really go any further with the argument, because it sounds like your argument is based off of your PvP experience, of which I have none.

    I would also like to take this moment to say that I'm an RPer, and my experience comes from an RP/PVE standpoint.
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    mushariagainmushariagain Member Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    travelingmaster wrote: »
    No, no more carriers for the Federation. Not only is the pet spam bad enough in certain situations, but the Federation never NEEDED the things to begin with. Just be happy with your Armitage and Atrox carriers, sheesh.

    Ok, so let me get this straight; as far as I remember from when I had a Klingon toon, KDF has, what, about five carriers in total? Some of these carriers are capable of launching frigates. The federation has, ignoring refits/retrofits/fleet variants, what, about two, maybe three? They all launch fighters and I think only one of them has more than one hangar bay, even so, you're complaining that feds have too many carriers? Ok I could be wrong about some of that but the point still stands, if KDF don't have more carriers then they at least have the same number and you're complaining about fighter spam?

    Also, beam fire at will, cannon scatter volley, vent warp plasma, mines, torpedo full spread and a whole host of other abilities, pick one, never worry about fighters again.
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    westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,215 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I fully support this ship idea.
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    jagdpantherxxxjagdpantherxxx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The reason why klingons dont want feds to have more carriers is because they want the factions to stay unique. And they also have almost no sci vessels.

    And you know what, I agree with them.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daedalus304 wrote: »
    oh for the love of.....We have a FEDERATION carrier, what you want is a STARFLEET CARRIER!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!!!.


    on a less angry note, yes it does sound like a carrier. a good one.

    but I would think the Jupiter class would take over as a Starfleet carrier.

    The Jupiter class is ugly as sin! If they are to add a Starfleet Carrier I would hope it would be something new, not some ugly TRIBBLE flying whale.
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    issueman1issueman1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    jagdpantherxxx wrote: »
    The reason why klingons dont want feds to have more carriers is because they want the factions to stay unique. And they also have almost no sci vessels.

    And you know what, I agree with them.

    Battle cloak- Klingon
    Best damage ships- Klingon
    Cruisers that can fit cannons- Klingon
    Most carriers- Klingon

    Your argument of carriers being Klingon specific is null in void. The battle cloak, the VERY HIGH dmg ships and the cruisers that can fit cannons are the Klingon's unique aspect. Carriers are not.

    The ship looks pretty cool. And the manufacturing aspect would fit in with replicating fighters en-mass. I think this is a winner!
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    jagdpantherxxxjagdpantherxxx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    issueman1 wrote: »
    Battle cloak- Klingon
    Best damage ships- Klingon
    Cruisers that can fit cannons- Klingon
    Most carriers- Klingon

    Your argument of carriers being Klingon specific is null in void. The battle cloak, the VERY HIGH dmg ships and the cruisers that can fit cannons are the Klingon's unique aspect. Carriers are not.

    The ship looks pretty cool. And the manufacturing aspect would fit in with replicating fighters en-mass. I think this is a winner!
    And what gives you the right to say that carriers are not a part of klingons uniqueness?
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    catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It's only sourced for one single expanded universe piece, so I;m not really sure it's iconic enough to justify. I'd much rather have the Constellation in as a carrier, as it is much better established in Star Trek, and a bit more iconic, being one of Picard's former commands.
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    issueman1issueman1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    jagdpantherxxx wrote: »
    And what gives you the right to say that carriers are not a part of klingons uniqueness?

    Because Feds have one hahahaha
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    eraserfisheraserfish Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hang on, aren't Multi-Mission Science Vessels also carriers...?

    As for having another Federation carrier, my only reaction would be to scrap all my cruisers and stop playing this game.

    I don't think that carriers are (or should) be a uniquely Klingon feature, but the fact that they essentially do much of what a regular Federation cruiser does is discouraging, to say the least.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It has the same problem as the Vesta. Cryptic would have to negotiate with whoever created it to bring it in. I just don't see us piloting a mobile Industrial Fabricator with very limited weaponry.
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    alexandus wrote: »
    If this doesn't scream "Carrier!", I dont know what does.

    The Jupiter ;).
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    eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I would imagine it would be a lot easier due to the fact it hasn't be shown and just a description in the VOY novels. The Merian-class, the 2370s Miranda-class, will fall into the same category as the Vesta, but they were both designed by the same person.
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    issueman1issueman1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    I would imagine it would be a lot easier due to the fact it hasn't be shown and just a description in the VOY novels. The Merian-class, the 2370s Miranda-class, will fall into the same category as the Vesta, but they were both designed by the same person.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1oTNGkUkHgM/TDd3DNiYbjI/AAAAAAAAB7A/yY1Gu9JOsfY/s1600/09072010005-771706.jpg
    http://www.ewe-squad.com/miranda2/merian13.jpg
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    eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yes, those are pictures from Mark Rademaker, not the Mulciber. The Merian-class Planck was in the recent Ships of the Line calendar.
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    issueman1 wrote: »
    Because Feds have one hahahaha
    Well, KDF can get one for free. So that is a significant difference.
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    puppykiapuppykia Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I am not sure adding a "New" Carrier is necesarily needed. I for one am pushing for a refit of the Atrox. I LOVE my Atrox. I love the look especially. What I would personally like to see is the ATrox getting refit. Other carriers have universal bridge officer slots. But the klingons and the jem can also launch frigates.

    Now I know a lot of people will scream "THE FEDS NEVER HAD A CARRIER!"...etc etc. To be honest, I do not know as far as game balancing and lag issues and such would be far. I for one would prefer a third or even fourth hanger bay. Perhaps even removing some of its current weapon slots. Having a "Fleet" version which has 4 hanger bays and oen fore and aft weapon weapon slot so people can still have thier set bonuses perhaps.

    With all of the new ships coming out. The Vesta is getting extra console slots and special shields and all of teh other ships with thier I feel that this ship, which many of us do have. Is becoming obsolete to other ships that can just look at mobs of ships and they vaporize. Or at the very least can fullfil multiple roles.

    Perhaps, making it have a special ability with an AoE HoT that heals all teh fighters it has launched.

    Also, My exp comes from PvE. I do not partake in PvP. I have had enough of that being in other space mmo's since they were in beta and you could not warp to zero to pass through a gate. (Those who know understand).
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    maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Jupiter ;).
    The only thing the Jupiter screams is "Please Kill Me, I'm Too Ugly To Live."

    I can say that I wouldn't mind seeing a unique, new Starfleet dedicated carrier as well as Klingons getting something uniquely KDF since I feel that space is starting to get inundated with alien designs that are becoming too generic.
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    sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    The Jupiter ;).

    Here's a ship for those who like to be on the straight and narrow...

    Tier:5

    Type:Heavy Duty Carrier

    Hull:52,000

    Standard Shields:7,009 (Mk X)

    Shield Modifier: 1.5

    Weapons: 5 (front) 5 (rear)

    Crew:12,500

    Bridge Officers: Ensign Tactical, Lt. Science, Cmd Engineering, Lt. Cmd Eng., Lt. Cmd Univ.

    Device Slots:4

    Consoles: 3 (Tactical), 4 (Engineering), 2 (Science)

    Turn Rate: 1

    Impulse Modifier:0.10

    Inertia rating:2

    Bonus Power:+10 shield power
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    jacenjacen24jacenjacen24 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I clicked the link didnt see the carrier. But i did see the Achilles class. That ship is awesome.
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    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,319 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    alexandus wrote: »
    just figured I would post this here, considering that I have, since about season 3, wanted a true Federation Carrier. Not an Atrox, not the equivalent of a Flight Deck Cruiser, but something that actually looks like a Federation starship i.e. nacelles/saucer, the whole bit.

    Since I used to pray to the STO Gods (and went largely unanswered due to legal reasons), I bring forward this link:

    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Mulciber_class

    If this doesn't scream "Carrier!", I dont know what does.

    How about no.

    But give it some time and I'm sure cryptic will launch a Galaxy based carrier sometime in the future.
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    lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    issueman1 wrote: »
    Battle cloak- Klingon
    Best damage ships- Klingon
    Cruisers that can fit cannons- Klingon
    Most carriers- Klingon

    Your argument of carriers being Klingon specific is null in void. The battle cloak, the VERY HIGH dmg ships and the cruisers that can fit cannons are the Klingon's unique aspect. Carriers are not.

    The ship looks pretty cool. And the manufacturing aspect would fit in with replicating fighters en-mass. I think this is a winner!

    Best damage ships? Umm Feds have three ships with 5 tac consoles to the KDF's 0

    Most carriers? Well yes...if only count endgame like I am...well would you look at that its 3 to 3...

    The only thing KDF really has is the Battlecruisers...everything else feds beat kdf including carrier wise. Even then the fed carriers are better in a lot of ways compared to the fed ones.
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    dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If you're gonna put out a choice, at least have a picture of it!
    I kinda liked this one from Starfleet Command 2.
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    westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,215 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They can't use designs from other games.
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    artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    in my opinion i think the starfleet should get one more big carrier
    and thats it. and a few extra hanger pets.

    with the exception of Romulan faction coming.
    this game doesn't need any more carriers.
    dont get me wrong i am a big fan of carrier ships.
    but i think its time to add other ships other then carrier types.

    need more fleet ships...
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    talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    B
    Most carriers? Well yes...if only count endgame like I am...well would you look at that its 3 to 3...

    We're talking actual Carriers with 2 hangar bays, not Escorts, Cruisers, or Sci ships with a single hangar bay. KDF has 2 Fed has 1. KDF also has the only Carrier that's not a cstore purchase and the only carriers that can launch Frigates. Not counting the Recluse and Dreadnought since they're useable by both.
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    slipshottyslipshotty Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Here's a few starfleet ship's that I would love to see added.

    http://www.borgcore.de/outerspace/fighter.png

    How about that for a frigate/fighter?

    http://haydndalton.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/uss_typhon01.jpg

    A true starfleet carrier?
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