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  • daroskadaroska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hmm. It'd be interesting to see a return of the Edosians from the animated series.
    Not to mention the Xindi who we haven't see much of, except from the DOFF cards.
    Only others I can think of is the solanagen-based entities and the lovely swarm aliens.
    :D
    Oh, oops! Almost forgot those interesting little reptilian sapiens, enemies of the Anticans, the Selay.
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    But Trelane was merely the child of some parents. And he had to be told to place nice with his new toys or come back inside the house/continuum/wherever. :)

    Isn't there a book that says that Trelane is a Q, and that whole sequence was just him TRIBBLE with Kirk and co again?
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Isn't there a book that says that Trelane is a Q, and that whole sequence was just him TRIBBLE with Kirk and co again?

    Probably is, but Q is one of the things that gets way overdone in the books. Almost every even vaguely godlike or just noncorporeal being from the shows got linked to the Q somehow in some book or another.
  • pokinatchapunxpokinatchapunx Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    canis36 wrote: »
    It was easy to miss, but back when the Ferasans were introduced there were some of people asking "Why not Kzinti?" and a few of the devs posted on the boards and admitted that they wanted to intro the Kzinti but copyright, IP, and (IIRC) CBS issues had pretty much permanently torpedoed any hope of the Kzinti getting into STO so they made the Ferasans instead.

    In those posts it was pretty heavily implied if not outright stated that the Ferasans were Kzinti by a different name.
    Actually, IIRC the issue wasn't with getting CBS approval but with getting Larry Niven's approval. The previous video game to use the Kzinti botched it badly.

    I'd love to see the FGC-47 lifeforms. They were an interesting race.

    @Lizwei: you forgot the Cheron. :p
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Actually, IIRC the issue wasn't with getting CBS approval but with getting Larry Niven's approval. The previous video game to use the Kzinti botched it badly.

    I'd love to see the FGC-47 lifeforms. They were an interesting race.

    Never was terribly fond of them.
    How bigotted do you have to be to meet a few members of a species, be irritated by their behaviour and then decide they must all die?
    Funny how Star Trek is always about letting go of our prejudices, but the aliens? Nah they can have theirs.

    Can you imagine if they came across a Klingon ship? One honour fight in the mess hall later and they'd all turn up dead.
    @Lizwei: you forgot the Cheron. :p

    Yeah and Apollo, those dudes with the old west town, the ones who made Lincoln.. I'm surprised the Federation maps of the time didn't just say "HERE BE GODS" on all the unexplored parts and be done with it.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Never was terribly fond of them.
    How bigotted do you have to be to meet a few members of a species, be irritated by their behaviour and then decide they must all die?
    Funny how Star Trek is always about letting go of our prejudices, but the aliens? Nah they can have theirs.

    Can you imagine if they came across a Klingon ship? One honour fight in the mess hall later and they'd all turn up dead.



    Yeah and Apollo, those dudes with the old west town, the ones who made Lincoln.. I'm surprised the Federation maps of the time didn't just say "HERE BE GODS" on all the unexplored parts and be done with it.
    Well, in Isabella's defense.... She didn't know what a child was or why children are treated differently.... I suspect that her race hasn't had contact with other species often. They barely even know what humanoids are, so...
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, in Isabella's defense.... She didn't know what a child was or why children are treated differently.... I suspect that her race hasn't had contact with other species often. They barely even know what humanoids are, so...

    Yeah that's what I mean, she percieved a few of another species as being hostile towards each other and therefore wanted to summarily execute all of them.

    That's my point about Klingons, they're rude and obnoxious to each other pretty much all the time and likely wouldn't apologise for it and Isabella probably wouldn't understand that they're just doing it to assert their place in their hierarchy.
    Then again Klingons probably wouldn't go poking around every strange shiny place they come across.
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  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Why no love for the Xindi? The Aquatics would be a pain so might have to be left out, along with the Avians (extinct anyway) - but the primates, arboreal - and specifically Insectoid and Reptillians would be awesome! I want an Insectoid!
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Ztenkethi. They are powerful enough to fight the feds yet we know nothing about them. Gold can be mined from that.

    lots of races in ENT from the sphere builders, suliban, na'kuhl, the xinid, quite a few from season 1 that never got names.

    the mirradorns were suggested to be fairly powerful.

    the sheliak as well.

    The whole of the Delta quadrant.
    vaadwaur
    the krennim
    the little aliens from equinox
  • dixoniumdixonium Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tacofangs wrote: »

    Yes, please!
  • zztopperszztoppers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    topset wrote: »
    Why no love for the Xindi? The Aquatics would be a pain so might have to be left out, along with the Avians (extinct anyway) - but the primates, arboreal - and specifically Insectoid and Reptillians would be awesome! I want an Insectoid!

    There is an untapped plot here for the Xindi: Mirror universe Avians did not go extinct.

    With STO the possibilities are endless!
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    There was a strong indication the Avians weren't extinct in Enterprise. The world the council was located on was an abandoned off-world Avian settlement. At least some of them escaped or were saved from their world's destruction, though it appears that group didn't escape for long, but it may not have been the only one. The plot line was hinted at but then dropped.

    Depending on when exactly the Preservers stopped their activity (they were active relocating dying cultures from Earth into the last pre-industrial age, so we're not talking about a huge stretch of time here), it could have been their doing.
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Xindi would be interesting. I'd love to play as the Insectoids.

    Talarians would be a nice addition somewhere. Perhaps not as a playable race, because they're still an independent civilization. Perhaps allies of the Klingons, with obtainable boffs for KDF?

    Federation have too many playable species as it is, imo. If there are new playable species put in, they should be applicable for either KDF or Romulan faction.
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  • delsabereduxdelsaberedux Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm down for Xindi. I doubt the Insectoids and Aquatics would be feasible as anything other than NPC races, but the rest would be cake by comparison. Mostly I'd just love to see the Aquatic ships. There's another carrier option right there, preferably faction-agnostic. Bonus points for a unique destruction animation taking into account their liquid atmospheres.

    Sphere Builders could be a fun one-off enemy in a featured episode or something. Maybe a Fleet Action involving a leftover or rebuilt Sphere that players are tasked with destroying or capturing. On the ground, their ability to pass through walls could be interesting, if there's tech to make that work.

    It would be cool if STO could be the canvas for 25th century adaptions of all those stories Enterprise didn't have the chance to tell. Especially if you forget the finale happened. Ugh.

    Others... mentioned earlier, but I'll second the Sheliak, Antedeans (especially if they wobble when they talk!), Anticans (probably for the KDF,) Selay (probably for the FEDs, or give both to the Romulans,) Denobulans (with the unique "optimism!" and "blowfish" emotes!) There are plenty of others but I'll be here all day if I try to remember them all.

    From other Star Trek games past (yes, I know this is a licensing minefield) how about the Chodak? They could be an interesting wrench to throw in the works of the new Romulan content. Though perhaps all that Unity stuff should be left alone. It always felt like the kind of impossibly powerful MacGuffin common to so many bad Star Wars EU novels.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It would be cool if STO could be the canvas for 25th century adaptions of all those stories Enterprise didn't have the chance to tell. Especially if you forget the finale happened. Ugh.
    The finale? You mean "Terra Prime"? That was the last episode, after all.

    No, there weren't any more episodes. NO, THERE WEREN'T! I'M NOT LISTENING!!!! LALALALALALALALALAAAAAA......
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Everything from the Animated Series.
  • haurianthauriant Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I agree with having the Edosians (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Edosian). Might be hard to make Boffs or Captains with the extra arm & leg animation, but I'd buy a Boff in the C-Store. But at least having them as Doffs should be easy as long as they're part of the license.

    The enemy species I'd like to see are the Kelvans. (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kelvan) We saw them disguised as humans in TOS' "By Any Other Name," but the description of their natural form sounded like mini-Lovecraftian monstrosities. (Mini for Lovecraftian monstrosities, that its.) Worf claimed to have fought one, so they should be still around. Cryptic could flesh out a non-humanoid enemy that was beyond TOS' or even TNG's special effects abilities.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Edo.

    "They make love at the drop of a hat."
    "Any hat."

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  • kilka1kilka1 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hasnt Kirk tapped just about every race there is?
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hauriant wrote: »
    The enemy species I'd like to see are the Kelvans. (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kelvan) We saw them disguised as humans in TOS' "By Any Other Name," but the description of their natural form sounded like mini-Lovecraftian monstrosities. (Mini for Lovecraftian monstrosities, that its.) Worf claimed to have fought one, so they should be still around. Cryptic could flesh out a non-humanoid enemy that was beyond TOS' or even TNG's special effects abilities.

    Come on man. This is Cryptic. You should know exactly what would happen if we fought Kelvans with Cryptic's idea of combat balance.
    We'd spend the entire fight rolling around the floor as salt cubes O>o
    sander233 wrote: »
    Edo.

    "They make love at the drop of a hat."
    "Any hat."

    - Geordi La Forge and Tasha Yar

    I'm in, if we can blow up their arrogant "god".

    Yes I have a thing against haughty alien superbeings (that aren't amusing like Q). Sue me.
  • grantsghostgrantsghost Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What about the Vidiian? Has anyone mentioned them? You could loose DOFFs or BOFFs if you do not repel their attack. It could be a whole series. Trying to get crew back or traveling like Voyager and fight them off.

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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    What about the Vidiian? Has anyone mentioned them? You could loose DOFFs or BOFFs if you do not repel their attack. It could be a whole series. Trying to get crew back or traveling like Voyager and fight them off.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Vidiian
    According to the Think tank episode, they were cured after Voyager get away from their space. Before the Plague they were highly evolved, and quite friendly. The desperation drove them to what they did, but they probably have reverted to a peaceful species.
    According to several discussion with vidiian, they really hated what they are doing, but they didn't have a choice for survival.

    However, it could be funny to meet them again, without the Plague. They may want to join the Federation, after all, before the plague, they shared common beliefs.
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  • zztopperszztoppers Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I recently watched the Voth episode of Voyager. They actually beamed Voyager inside the City ship. I have to revise estimate of the size of the city ship. It is more like 1000+ times the size of Voyager. The voth scientists downloaded the entire Voyager database in an instant.

    This hints of serious power and 20 million years of Doctrine that is some serious attitude like rule tha galaxy complex attitude. They could even be the race to obliderate the Borg once and for all.

    Imagine Starfleet Scientists uncovering a temporal archive of older Voth records. Proving even to the Voth the distant origin theory is true. The entire Voth civilization heads to Earth with a serious case of home sickness.

    They see themselves as being the first race in the galaxy! Therefore they have rights over everyone else. Determining the fate of the federation and the Galaxy. Or something like that.

    Either that or the Voth discover their own archive and prove the theory themselves.

    Another possiblity is the Voth have a political and civil upheavel. Some leave Voth society to go to earth to study their old home. We would be like play things to them.

    Perhaps the Voth even have tech to deal with the medalsom Q!
  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    kilka1 wrote: »
    Hasnt Kirk tapped just about every race there is?

    I am sure there have to be several Alien species between when Kirk entered the Nexus and the start of TNG that Kirk didn't get a chance to "Discover".

    Heck most of the Delta and Gamma species would be new to him.
  • virgilpluton999virgilpluton999 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Hey Cryptic! Want a lock box idea? Slaver Stasis Box. You know you want to.

    Otherwise, Xindi, Tellarites, and more Ferasan/Caitan stuff. MOAR!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    zztoppers wrote: »
    I recently watched the Voth episode of Voyager. They actually beamed Voyager inside the City ship. I have to revise estimate of the size of the city ship. It is more like 1000+ times the size of Voyager. The voth scientists downloaded the entire Voyager database in an instant.

    This hints of serious power and 20 million years of Doctrine that is some serious attitude like rule tha galaxy complex attitude. They could even be the race to obliderate the Borg once and for all.

    Imagine Starfleet Scientists uncovering a temporal archive of older Voth records. Proving even to the Voth the distant origin theory is true. The entire Voth civilization heads to Earth with a serious case of home sickness.

    They see themselves as being the first race in the galaxy! Therefore they have rights over everyone else. Determining the fate of the federation and the Galaxy. Or something like that.

    Either that or the Voth discover their own archive and prove the theory themselves.

    Another possiblity is the Voth have a political and civil upheavel. Some leave Voth society to go to earth to study their old home. We would be like play things to them.

    Perhaps the Voth even have tech to deal with the medalsom Q!
    Well.... SOME of the Voth DO know the truth. I suspect their leaders maintain the status quo for political reasons.
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  • darklordderpydarklordderpy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I so agree with the animated series ideas, I would love to see some edosians, perhaps the romulans could get the Vendorian as a C-store unlockable? the shape shifting octopus people. Phylosians would make a good duty officer race, perhaps as good medics. there are tons of cool races in that series, perhaps they could get in the bird people to whatever they were called.

    Beyond the races in the animated series, I would like to see the Binars from TNG
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