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a poll to push reputation back to 44

sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
! yes push back to 44
2 no keep as is









this would solve a key issue with elite stf's
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Making you wait until you reach level 50 to do the reputation system is stupid. It should start the moment normal STF missions are unlocked so once you unlock Elite missions you will already have your reputation going and having some gear from it. I am tired of seeing some people in Elite missions with crappy gear.
  • lancemeszaroslancemeszaros Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The reputation system should be unlocked from level 1, in order to get new players interested in the entire system and allowing them to build toward it, instead of shoving everything onto them when they hit the level cap.

    Level 1 would be done entirely through story episodes, with the Omega/Romulan/Tholian marks being available only from the first playthrough of each episode. Ideally, this would also coincide with a Tholian-based featured episode series. Again, this gets new players invested in the system, and lets them feel like they're already working toward something. Once they unlock level 1, they get access to mk X gear, so that they have something decent when they first get into STFs, instead of showing up to their first elite with rainbow beams. Speaking of elite STFs, those would only become available upon completing level 3. Levels 2 and 3 would give mk XI gear, so they're making some progress. The key is to get them invested in the system early, and to make progression gradual, instead of the current "YOU'RE AT LEVEL 50 SO GO GRIND ELITE STFS FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OKAY"
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    !!!!!!!!!! (10 chars)
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • kaiserkactokaiserkacto Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    Making you wait until you reach level 50 to do the reputation system is stupid. It should start the moment normal STF missions are unlocked so once you unlock Elite missions you will already have your reputation going and having some gear from it. I am tired of seeing some people in Elite missions with crappy gear.

    This is exactly what i wanted to say, or at least just open the first two tiers of the omega reputation, as soon you are able to do the normal STFs
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    In every place,
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  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yes - this is an issue - there is no reason that they don't let you start at lvl 44 when that is where you can start the Normal STF runs.

    I don't know why they made it lvl 50.

    It will become a big issue with the new Romulan Faction.
  • janusforbearejanusforbeare Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I don't have strong feelings one way or the other here, but just to play devil's advocate, the reputation system is designed to extend the playability of the game once a character has maxed out their level. You can argue that it shouldn't be the core of the post-game content that it's become, but the simple fact is that once you've filled out your Omega and Romulan rep, there's not a whole lot to do beyond PVP, building up your fleet, or running additional STFs/fleet actions with little reward. Dropping the starting level for rep would effectively reduce the amount of time the game could hold the average player's attention, which isn't good for the company, or (to a lesser extent) for the player.
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  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Make rep projects available as soon as you can earn any marks in the game, hold back elite till level 50, we NEED a head start in that area, I have been playing since before S7 and I don't have my rep filled yet:eek: between grinding for fleet, grinding for items, grinding for rep, then grinding again for rep items, then grinding for fleet items...Its a futile battle to get anything in this game.:rolleyes:
  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    janusforbeare wrote: »
    I don't have strong feelings one way or the other here, but just to play devil's advocate, the reputation system is designed to extend the playability of the game once a character has maxed out their level. You can argue that it shouldn't be the core of the post-game content that it's become, but the simple fact is that once you've filled out your Omega and Romulan rep, there's not a whole lot to do beyond PVP, building up your fleet, or running additional STFs/fleet actions with little reward. Dropping the starting level for rep would effectively reduce the amount of time the game could hold the average player's attention, which isn't good for the company, or (to a lesser extent) for the player.

    I have been in a lot of the harder Elite Missions (mostly ground) that fail because of multiple people without any reputation gear to help them out. Imagine the frustration people like that have as well as the ones who play with those people that cause fails. It is not good for anyone.

    They could of made the reputation system start once normal STF missions start but only allow you to reach a high enough Tier to get the cheap MK X Omega reputation gear. You would still have to reach level 50 to advance more and unlock more stuff. The Romulan Reputation could still be required to reach level 50.

    Also to hold peoples attention they need to have more total missions to do that is what keeps people playing more then anything. Doing the same small amount of missions over and over and over and over and over and over and over again is not good.

    The way it is now just is not good. I hate having people who are new to level 50 in Elite missions causing fails and I am sure they hate the fails they have as well.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lancemeszaros wrote: »
    The reputation system should be unlocked from level 1, in order to get new players interested in the entire system and allowing them to build toward it, instead of shoving everything onto them when they hit the level cap.

    Yes but if they do that then they won't be able to call it "end game content" ! :P
    (which we sorely lack as it is ... :rolleyes:)

    The way it is you have to log in every day for ... 2 months or something like that to unlock the damn thing .
    That means that they have you hanging around @ End Game for 2 months ... .
    Surely you'll want to buy something in that time ... .
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    More like a few Mirror Incursions.
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  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Unlock the ability to purchase Tier 1 at level 10, Tier 2 at level 20, Tier 3 at level 30, Tier 4 at level 44, and Tier 5 at level 50.

    Most of the gear you get from the reputation system is already Mark-levelled anyway, but some of it isn't and it would be nice to have options.
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    born2bwild1 wrote: »
    Yes - this is an issue - there is no reason that they don't let you start at lvl 44 when that is where you can start the Normal STF runs.

    I don't know why they made it lvl 50.

    It will become a big issue with the new Romulan Faction.


    but 44 is where endgame starts and I don't know about you guy I would rather start explorin new romulus at 44 I am am tired of the hour long misssion it is easy to tell who is not suposed to be there, it is not their fault it is cryptics fault over the past week elite has been brutial
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    squishkin wrote: »
    Unlock the ability to purchase Tier 1 at level 10, Tier 2 at level 20, Tier 3 at level 30, Tier 4 at level 44, and Tier 5 at level 50.

    Most of the gear you get from the reputation system is already Mark-levelled anyway, but some of it isn't and it would be nice to have options.

    that is not a bad idea
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    squishkin wrote: »
    Unlock the ability to purchase Tier 1 at level 10, Tier 2 at level 20, Tier 3 at level 30, Tier 4 at level 44, and Tier 5 at level 50.

    Most of the gear you get from the reputation system is already Mark-levelled anyway, but some of it isn't and it would be nice to have options.

    Then Cryptic would need to add low level Borg content. Doesn't make sense to lower the level requirement for reputation and there is no content at that level. Deferi Invasion seems like it would work from level 30 on so that wouldn't work.

    My opinion is keep the current repuations as they are, but add new reputations like Crafting, PvP, Starfleet, and KDF reputations that would work at low levels. Borg and Tholian are endgame enemies and Romulan seems like they need a person in power like a Vice Admiral not a low ranking Starfleet Officer that has no real power. Might be possible to drop Romulan to level 40 and the first couple of tiers in Omega to 44.
  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    Then Cryptic would need to add low level Borg content. Doesn't make sense to lower the level requirement for reputation and there is no content at that level.

    Borg sector red alerts aren't level-bounded, are they?
  • kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    !

    rep from level 1 might be a bit much but Id be down.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    marshalericdavid wrote: »
    Making you wait until you reach level 50 to do the reputation system is stupid. It should start the moment normal STF missions are unlocked so once you unlock Elite missions you will already have your reputation going and having some gear from it. I am tired of seeing some people in Elite missions with crappy gear.

    I agree here too, should be open at 44 even if it doesn't unlock all tiers...lock down so you can only get tiers 1 and 2 like has been suggested.
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  • smagatonsmagaton Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I agree, since once you get to level 44 when you can join Omega force,you get NOTHING!!!
    So a nice daily to start earning Omega marks would go a long way to helping new players
    (or alts) get a leg up so to speak, other than normal STFs:) Humm, maybe 1 ground and 1 space daily to prepare for what's ahead?
  • sean2448sean2448 Member Posts: 815 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    isnt the difference between 44 and 50 .... 3 casual evenings play?
    maybe a week.

    they would have to play normal first not just jump in into elite withe PVE que 1 easy 2 medium 3 very hard that is what i don't get and is there fault they hinder the team and make for a long mission they should know better
  • niceguy13niceguy13 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    yes..............
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