How much will it cost....I hope its on free to play.
I think we will have to operate (for now) under the assumption that LoR is indeed free to play however Cryptic needs to recoup the money its poured into the expansion and it'll likely do it by also releasing a tonne of stuff for the Romulans into the Z-Store (Liberated Romulan BO anyone?) and some TOS era Romulan ships.
On a personal point, if they ever released a TOS era Romulan costume complete with Centurion helmet I will spend as much as necessary to get it ^_^ tell me THIS doesn't look awesome
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Main romulan story probably won't hit tribble at all, it will be the new systems and non romulan stuff ( no spoilers for you ). Oh i have to say this... i hate romulans but , evil space vampires in purple armor now that i can't wait for!
So... we had a countdown to a notice that we already new about (May Update that involved some Rommie additions). Yes, we got the confirmation that Romulan faction is going to be added, but why the meaningless countdown?
I sure hope the hype is not hollow when this updates arrives in just under two months, and that the Romulan update is complete (just like the Fed... and hopefully the KDF will be too).
Looking forward to another countdown... to something. :rolleyes:
Being referred to as star trek online's 1st expansion 'the legacy of Romulus' I'd say expansion is only used in mmo talk when something is actually big. Otherwise update could mean any size.
How much will it cost....I hope its on free to play.
It's confirmed as free.... However it's not certain that you will get an extra slot. So you may need to spend some zen for some slots. I think 650 for 2 slots. And 650 zen isn't hard to make without spending any real money.
It's confirmed as free.... However it's not certain that you will get an extra slot. So you may need to spend some zen for some slots. I think 650 for 2 slots. And 650 zen isn't hard to make without spending any real money.
that would kind of contradict the game being F2P, since neither of the 2 slots silvers get are unrestricted
1 can only be used for a fed, and the other can only be used for a kdf
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that would kind of contradict the game being F2P, since neither of the 2 slots silvers get are unrestricted
1 can only be used for a fed, and the other can only be used for a kdf
I will assume when the expansion hits holodeck, the start as any faction part stated on the web site solves that restriction. I just think that if your f2p and you've used your slots up then maybe you will have to spend some zen. If you haven't used them all then your good to roll. But this is just speculation. I should think this question will get answered in the coming soon ask cryptic response. Personally I think if all you have to do is buy character slot for about 650 zen it's practically free. If no 1 can make enough do dilithium between now and then for enough zen then they have seriously problems playing this game. Dilithium is free and therefore so can zen.
Cryptic wants people to be able to play ALL aspects of the game free...
Therefore, it's not logical for Them to give F2P'ers a Free slot EACH for a Fed & KDF character and NOT give a Free one, for a Romulan character.
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If no 1 can make enough do dilithium between now and then for enough zen then they have seriously problems playing this game. Dilithium is free and therefore so can zen.
and where would players starting the game after the expansion's release get this 'dilithium between now and then' to get the slots to roll a romulan? they can't, which means that, for those players, 1/3 of the game is stuck behind a wall
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and where would players starting the game after the expansion's release get this 'dilithium between now and then' to get the slots to roll a romulan? they can't, which means that, for those players, 1/3 of the game is stuck behind a wall
If some 1 starting the game after release of this expansion that isn't aware of dilithium and zen then they would at least have the current 2 character slots. And the important part on the web site is you can start at level 1 of any of the 3 faction. So they would be able to roll a romulan straight away. Pretty simple. The wall your talking about don't exist
If some 1 starting the game after release of this expansion that isn't aware of dilithium and zen then they would at least have the current 2 character slots. And the important part on the web site is you can start at level 1 of any of the 3 faction. So they would be able to roll a romulan straight away. Pretty simple. The wall your talking about don't exist
both of those silver slots are restricted, which i already mentioned; 1 is for fed only, and 1 is for kdf only
there's your wall; a new player can't use either slot to make a romulan, so 1/3 of the game is still locked away from them, unless they pay or grind for more slots, which goes against the entire concept of their F2P model
they would have to add a 3rd slot specifically for romulans or change the already existing 2 to allow for any faction to allow a new player the full game experience
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both of those silver slots are restricted, which i already mentioned; 1 is for fed only, and 1 is for kdf only
there's your wall; a new player can't use either slot to make a romulan, so 1/3 of the game is still locked away from them, unless they pay or grind for more slots, which goes against the entire concept of their F2P model
they would have to add a 3rd slot specifically for romulans or change the already existing 2 to allow for any faction to allow a new player the full game experience
As far as f2p models go sto has 1 of the easiest for not spending a single penny it's very easy to make zen. Unless your incredibly lazy.
The web site states very clealy you can make your 1st character as any faction and you can start at level 1. No wall!
The web site states very clealy you can make your 1st character as any faction and you can start at level 1.
which implies they either have to make a 3rd, romulan-only slot for silver players, or they have to remove the faction restrictions from the 2 they already get
either way, no new player is going to have to do anything other than install the game, launch it, and create a romulan, unlike what your first post suggested
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both of those silver slots are restricted, which i already mentioned; 1 is for fed only, and 1 is for kdf only
there's your wall; a new player can't use either slot to make a romulan, so 1/3 of the game is still locked away from them, unless they pay or grind for more slots, which goes against the entire concept of their F2P model
they would have to add a 3rd slot specifically for romulans or change the already existing 2 to allow for any faction to allow a new player the full game experience
And who's to say that are going to give everyone a free Romulan Slot? Remember we know NOTHING about what is or isn't part of the expansion. But I would say based on cryptic's own admission that they do not want to hide any of their game behind a pay wall, the idea of a free romulan slot is pretty good as far as speculation goes.
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which implies they either have to make a 3rd, romulan-only slot for silver players, or they have to remove the faction restrictions from the 2 they already get
either way, no new player is going to have to do anything other than install the game, launch it, and create a romulan, unlike what your first post suggested
Lol you just want to argue I can see. I think its pretty ovbious they going to change the restriction thats currently in place. the bit that says start your 1st character as a member of fed kdf or rr. Says it all tbh. so I've only posted facts as it stands with the information available to all. The only error in my posts was me saying 2 slots cost 650 zen actually they cost 625 zen so even easier. And can still be free if you actually play the game
But this something for nothing culture really takes the p!ss some times!
or the removal of faction restrictions from the 2 existing slots, which didn't occur to me until today
and that would actually probably be easier for cryptic to do, code-wise
Meh, they add free slots all the time to the game. Vet rewards, Gold rewards. Lifer rewards. I don't think it is that difficult to tell the system that everyone now has a free Rommie slot. Plus, you are seperating the free slot from the Romulan Content, which it most likely isn't. That being said, which ever option you use the coding has to be endlessly smaller then the coding needed to actually make the faction.
Besides, I am sure whatever they are or are not going to do, has already be decided and the coding is written.
My guess is that it will be a third free slot .If not no problem
If Cryptic will decide to make the 2 slots universal and not give the third free slot then I guess some game metrics related to faction percentage will change.
Many fed's will delete kdf char since they don't use it daily and many kdf will delete fed char because since it is not used then it is easier to delete rather than buy new slots
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Honestly, I don't really care. I have a Federation Alien currently masquerading as a Romulan. As soon as LoR hits, they are getting rerolled into a proper Romulan. So I am covered.
But I do understand that if Cryptic wants to maintain their "No content behind a pay wall" stance, they need to do something about the silvers.
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Create your first character as a member of the Federation, Klingon Empire, or Romulan Republic and level your captain from 1 to 50. if you read the page they made announcement then all your answers are here they plan on changing creation page from two feds and klingons to three feds ,klingons and romulans and if they do make us pay the free to play people are the ones who should pay since the lifers and gold members pay already...
Cryptic needs to recoup the money its poured into the expansion and it'll likely do it by also releasing a tonne of stuff for the Romulans into the C-Store (Liberated Romulan BOFF anyone?)
Did you mean Liberated Borg Romulan BOFF?
If so, this is how that would be handled:
This is already an existing item in C-Store.
I'm expecting when the new faction comes out, they'll alter the unlock to include the Romulan version in addition to the Starfleet and KDF versions.
At least, they'd better do this, because charging for a new liberated Borg BOFF just because it's a new faction is highly likely to irritate the veterans who have a tonne of legacy unlocks.
And I really hope Cryptic is factoring this in.
I personally have a lot of cool unlocks on my account and would love to have them available to my Hirogen Captain the moment he gets created.
Note, there is more then this, I just picked the ones I could remember.
I'm very fond of these items and would be quite irate if I learn that Cryptic hasn't allowed for the ability to claim them on a Romulan Faction Captain.
Especially since the use of these items means my Captain is ready to go pretty much from creation, I don't have to go looking for BOFFs to run my ship or weapons or armor, because I have them via the unlocks!
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I think we will have to operate (for now) under the assumption that LoR is indeed free to play however Cryptic needs to recoup the money its poured into the expansion and it'll likely do it by also releasing a tonne of stuff for the Romulans into the Z-Store (Liberated Romulan BO anyone?) and some TOS era Romulan ships.
On a personal point, if they ever released a TOS era Romulan costume complete with Centurion helmet I will spend as much as necessary to get it ^_^ tell me THIS doesn't look awesome
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It might not work either (Ex Astris Scientia has a tendency to be overzealous with its hotlink-protection) but if it does work, it is the Romulan with helmet from The Enterprise Incident.
Being referred to as star trek online's 1st expansion 'the legacy of Romulus' I'd say expansion is only used in mmo talk when something is actually big. Otherwise update could mean any size.
It's confirmed as free.... However it's not certain that you will get an extra slot. So you may need to spend some zen for some slots. I think 650 for 2 slots. And 650 zen isn't hard to make without spending any real money.
that would kind of contradict the game being F2P, since neither of the 2 slots silvers get are unrestricted
1 can only be used for a fed, and the other can only be used for a kdf
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650 zen is pretty easily obtained through converting dilithium.
I will assume when the expansion hits holodeck, the start as any faction part stated on the web site solves that restriction. I just think that if your f2p and you've used your slots up then maybe you will have to spend some zen. If you haven't used them all then your good to roll. But this is just speculation. I should think this question will get answered in the coming soon ask cryptic response. Personally I think if all you have to do is buy character slot for about 650 zen it's practically free. If no 1 can make enough do dilithium between now and then for enough zen then they have seriously problems playing this game. Dilithium is free and therefore so can zen.
Therefore, it's not logical for Them to give F2P'ers a Free slot EACH for a Fed & KDF character and NOT give a Free one, for a Romulan character.
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and where would players starting the game after the expansion's release get this 'dilithium between now and then' to get the slots to roll a romulan? they can't, which means that, for those players, 1/3 of the game is stuck behind a wall
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If some 1 starting the game after release of this expansion that isn't aware of dilithium and zen then they would at least have the current 2 character slots. And the important part on the web site is you can start at level 1 of any of the 3 faction. So they would be able to roll a romulan straight away. Pretty simple. The wall your talking about don't exist
both of those silver slots are restricted, which i already mentioned; 1 is for fed only, and 1 is for kdf only
there's your wall; a new player can't use either slot to make a romulan, so 1/3 of the game is still locked away from them, unless they pay or grind for more slots, which goes against the entire concept of their F2P model
they would have to add a 3rd slot specifically for romulans or change the already existing 2 to allow for any faction to allow a new player the full game experience
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As far as f2p models go sto has 1 of the easiest for not spending a single penny it's very easy to make zen. Unless your incredibly lazy.
The web site states very clealy you can make your 1st character as any faction and you can start at level 1. No wall!
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which implies they either have to make a 3rd, romulan-only slot for silver players, or they have to remove the faction restrictions from the 2 they already get
either way, no new player is going to have to do anything other than install the game, launch it, and create a romulan, unlike what your first post suggested
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And who's to say that are going to give everyone a free Romulan Slot? Remember we know NOTHING about what is or isn't part of the expansion. But I would say based on cryptic's own admission that they do not want to hide any of their game behind a pay wall, the idea of a free romulan slot is pretty good as far as speculation goes.
or the removal of faction restrictions from the 2 existing slots, which didn't occur to me until today
and that would actually probably be easier for cryptic to do, code-wise
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Lol you just want to argue I can see. I think its pretty ovbious they going to change the restriction thats currently in place. the bit that says start your 1st character as a member of fed kdf or rr. Says it all tbh. so I've only posted facts as it stands with the information available to all. The only error in my posts was me saying 2 slots cost 650 zen actually they cost 625 zen so even easier. And can still be free if you actually play the game
But this something for nothing culture really takes the p!ss some times!
Meh, they add free slots all the time to the game. Vet rewards, Gold rewards. Lifer rewards. I don't think it is that difficult to tell the system that everyone now has a free Rommie slot. Plus, you are seperating the free slot from the Romulan Content, which it most likely isn't. That being said, which ever option you use the coding has to be endlessly smaller then the coding needed to actually make the faction.
Besides, I am sure whatever they are or are not going to do, has already be decided and the coding is written.
If Cryptic will decide to make the 2 slots universal and not give the third free slot then I guess some game metrics related to faction percentage will change.
Many fed's will delete kdf char since they don't use it daily and many kdf will delete fed char because since it is not used then it is easier to delete rather than buy new slots
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
But I do understand that if Cryptic wants to maintain their "No content behind a pay wall" stance, they need to do something about the silvers.
Create your first character as a member of the Federation, Klingon Empire, or Romulan Republic and level your captain from 1 to 50. if you read the page they made announcement then all your answers are here they plan on changing creation page from two feds and klingons to three feds ,klingons and romulans and if they do make us pay the free to play people are the ones who should pay since the lifers and gold members pay already...
Did you mean Liberated Borg Romulan BOFF?
If so, this is how that would be handled:
This is already an existing item in C-Store.
I'm expecting when the new faction comes out, they'll alter the unlock to include the Romulan version in addition to the Starfleet and KDF versions.
At least, they'd better do this, because charging for a new liberated Borg BOFF just because it's a new faction is highly likely to irritate the veterans who have a tonne of legacy unlocks.
And I really hope Cryptic is factoring this in.
I personally have a lot of cool unlocks on my account and would love to have them available to my Hirogen Captain the moment he gets created.
A rough outline would go like this:
Steam Chromodynamic Armor.
TR-116a Rifle.
Bajoran Weapons.
Target Tribble.
Liberated BORG Engineer BOFF.
Photonic Science Officer BOFF.
Android Engineer BOFF (Veteran Reward).
Tribble Test DOFFs.
Note, there is more then this, I just picked the ones I could remember.
I'm very fond of these items and would be quite irate if I learn that Cryptic hasn't allowed for the ability to claim them on a Romulan Faction Captain.
Especially since the use of these items means my Captain is ready to go pretty much from creation, I don't have to go looking for BOFFs to run my ship or weapons or armor, because I have them via the unlocks!
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he's talking about the one you got for buying the game from certain retail locations, and that borg is an account-wide unlock
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