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Cryptic gives players what the have been crying about, for years, bucks most other developer trends and introduces a third faction.
The reaction?
More crying, more lamenting about how it is a let down, more insults hurled Cryptics way.
Is it me or are gamers the most loathsome, self entitled brats in the universe?
The reaction?
More crying, more lamenting about how it is a let down, more insults hurled Cryptics way.
Is it me or are gamers the most loathsome, self entitled brats in the universe?
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most seem to be pissed because its not the RSE you get to roll a Rommie with... I say a rommie is a rommie and the only difference will be what your fighting for.
i know i am one who tends to be hard on cryptic, but not usually about what they release, its usually more about things that have happened, and i have been able to create an opinion on..
that being said, you never know, rommies could suck, and they could be great.. well have to waite and see..
however, all the klinks complaining, well, they said this was supposed to be a big update for klinks as well.. so put the tissues away and complain when all the info is on the table..
If people can't identify with the gameworld of 2409, e.g. a vastly changed Romulan society, then thats something Cryptic should help remedy with an even higher level of emphasis on the current period storyline but also to show the effects and consequences of that storyline in action.
I guess I have seen whining from everything from "The Roms look too much like elfs" (no lie) to whines of allowing TOS warbirds....just silly grasping at straws TRIBBLE.
I sorta miss the days when we had this very passionate community that brought up valid concerns. Yes we fought like cats and dogs about some things but there wasn't this self entitled ********.
You know I totally get and respect what your are saying, and I agree to an extent...but technically they did sorta explain using the throwback ships away. And you can bet your TRIBBLE that if they didn't include those from the start there would have been pages of petitions and mock outrage to include them.
One man's valid concern is another man's crappy idea.
I also find it sort of ironic that the OP is, in escense, whinning about people whinning.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
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Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
well, starter feds Get the TOS connie and oberth, both TOS era ships. heck, klinks get D7's another TOS era ship, and i guess the TOS bird of Prey is the TOS ship for the Rommies.
i can climb on board with this statement, this is more basing it on past experience.. but the people who are pretty much out there complaining about how the faction is going to be without really knowing, well that is just silly.. haha.
That sums it up. People aren't going to give Cryptic a pass anymore. Everyting will be scrutinized, especially if Cryptic continues its NSA secrecy policies.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
You know I hear that justification so much and maybe there is a snippet of truth in it, but what people fail to take into account is that cryptic has served some very dark masters in the way of publishers in the past, also in all of my considerable decades playing games I have never seen any developer communicate with tier community as much as cryptic has and honestly they simply can't win.
Oh nozor Cryptic you listened to him when you should have listened to meeee!1 Failzor!!!!:rolleyes:
I am not drum beating for cryptic god knows I give them enough hell about Neverwinter a CO...but really it's getting a bit stupid.
STO has always only offered a themepark experience. Creating an actual Star Trek simulator would be a massive undertaking.
I dunno, I assume you are a gamer from being on this forum...so you tell us? :P
Most people do "cry" but some have serious questions and concerns that others perceive as "crying" because the have less passion for something than someone else.
Yeah the whole perpetual was going to give us a sandbox/simulator excuse is getting thin....we actually have one of their old programmers in the consulting firm I work for, they never had much of anything other than some concept art and some very unstable POC demos.
That's no excuss for failing to do simple things like bug fixes.
You serious? Cryptic has some of the worse communication ever. This countdown is just another example of that. Most other devs ofer an expansion and they tell you what the plan features are, what the story is about etc months before release. All we've gotten is "here is a new faction and a very vague backround info paragraph now wait until the end of May." All we've ever gotten from them was this "it is a threat to National Security if we reveal stuff to you" attitude (which was brought up as a concern in that legendary/infamous 300 page mega thread from Valentine's Day.
And let's not even get into how bug reports from Tribble are completely ignored with no explanation.
Yes, epic communication indeed. Unless you are comfortable with mediocre customer service.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
A lot of video games have the same sort of stuff happening. For a variety of reasons, video games are very important to people, so they become very emotional and excessively demanding. It is very similar to how sports fans will say crazy things to and about management and sports players.
A weird sociological quirk, maybe people just need to vent and this is how they do it. Probably better to take up yoga
Fine name five MMO developers that communicate more effectively...hell name three?
None these days, because of the trouble it brings.
You can't even name 1 let alone 5 or 3 :rolleyes:
There are simple if you risk losing money. The Andorian ships are example of that (which also brings up Cryptic's shody QA process). It took users all a few minutes to see something was wrong with shield modifers and cooldowns, just buy comparing the tool tips to what the modifiers were supposed to be as stated on the dev blogs. In the hour before release no one from Cryptic could be bothered to do something as simple as actually test the thing?
And let's not get started on the Klingon cloaking bug. Cryptic won't even tell us how a crewmember informing the Captain of the mission objectives can break cloak. All we've gotten is "working as intended." Yes, great communication.
Pirahna Games (Mechwarrior Online)
Wargamming.net (World of Tanks, for all the problems that game has at least when the devs TRIBBLE you over they tell you why)
Riot Games (League of Legends, there is a reason they have 30+ million users).
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
That's sorta my point, "given the gamer mentality it's corporate suicide to try and reason or even speak to them" (by the way I didn't say that, that was said on the floor of the GDC last year by a very well known developer)
I seriously question a lot of Cryptics decisions, like the really biased Old boy network that is currently moderating the Neverwinter forums (which will not end well once that game launches) or their abysmal handling of Co (the not bad mmo that time forgot) but at least they are trying where most other devs have basically washed their hands of communities and are pulling in profits anyway. *cough SWTOR cough*
This thread has now most definitely run its course, so due to the nature of the original post, I'm closing this thread down.
Cheers,
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