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Kumari? Not for me
magnumstar
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I've seen a lot of these ships in the past several weeks and was wondering why folks on this side would want one, seeing how in the elite STF's they spend most of their time respawning, they explode in very vibrant colors though. They're like flying paper mache with guns. They're just targets that annoy the spheres & cubes and it only takes one swat to get rid of them. I have yet to see one not explode and even in a normal Hive Onslaught run their survivability is nil.
Seriuosly this thing needs to be a lot faster than it is to have a better chance of surviving. It as well as the BoP should be the 2 fastest ships in the game since with their low hull points and shield strength makes their main tactic hit and run. At least the BoP has battle cloak to help it but sometimes even that isn't enough. Speed would help both ships with the Kumari being faster to compensate for not having battle cloak.
As the Kumari is now the Feds can have it.
Seriuosly this thing needs to be a lot faster than it is to have a better chance of surviving. It as well as the BoP should be the 2 fastest ships in the game since with their low hull points and shield strength makes their main tactic hit and run. At least the BoP has battle cloak to help it but sometimes even that isn't enough. Speed would help both ships with the Kumari being faster to compensate for not having battle cloak.
As the Kumari is now the Feds can have it.
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wing cannon=hybrid between cannon and DBB,can do hit's ~95k
tachyon burst console =aka bye bye target shields
Yes I would like a similar ship for kdf .
Kumari was built for spike damage ( "stupid amount of damage" )(i love that phrase btw)
I meet poor kumari builds and very good kumari builds and I can tell you that a good build with a good pilot it is a killer ship.
Probably bops can have a chance against them by hitting them and then runing away or maybe kdf battlecruiser could kill them due to bigger hull and shields .
Jhas can kill kumari because it has better turn rate than kumari and close firepower.
I personally I am flying a raptor (4 tactical consoles 4 fore and 15 turn rate 0.88 shield mod) and I would like to have a similar kdf raptor available.The best raptor that kdf can have in this moment has 4 fore/4 tactical 16 turn rate and 0.9 shield mod. I proposed in many threads that it should be enhanced with 5 fore and 5 tactical consoles.(having a cloak will compensate the lack of 95k hitting wing cannon and for shield stripping console)
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
im running the wing cannon, phaser quad cannon, and phaser DHC [crtH][crtd]x3 (I think Ill have to double check) with the KCB and VR mk11 ohaser turret (cant remember the mods
running 4 blue mk 11 phaser consoles and assimilated console in tac. embassy mk 10 shield emitter [pla] and shield regen mk 11 rare (dont recall the actual name) in sci, cannon overload console in eng with rare mk 11 nuet and the team fortress console fom the steamrunner pack (again cant remember the actual name).
I can post more detail once im in game and not sitting in my tuffli.
On the other hand, the Charal class is suposed to be quite durable in the hands of a capable captain. It's basically a partrol escort with additional firepower to the front and nice bonuses if you have the whole set. That thing can hold on it's own.
I typically buff any Kumari that's on my team with shield and hull heals giving them time to evade after they strike. The Kumari no matter what the build isn't designed to go toe to toe with an enemy and slug it out, just like the BoP if they stick around too long they're toast. More than one opponent shooting at these ships will take them out quick, there just isn't enough hull points and shield strength there to take the punishment. I still think that more speed would benefit these ships so they can get away faster.
I would rather see a BoP with this setup than a Raptor
I did fly the kumari before but it was too fragile so I switched to the Charal. Now unless I get mobbed by more than three spheres or invisatorped by the gate or tac cube, its pretty tough.
Hazard Emitters, EPtS and TT are a definite must though.
Also I do have the full Kumari set so that definitely helps.
I don't know what inept kumari captains you have seen, but it is is far, far from being brittle. I'm currently using the Charal-type on one of my Fed chars (bought it primarily for RP reasons: andorian char, all andorian boff and doff crew) and I'm surprised that it is quite sturdy. when I read all the things about it being made out of paper and being a glass-cannon, I really feared for the worst and that I'd be taking a ship with defensive values of a T3-ship or a basic Aquarius into STFs.
Surprisingly, I was pretty much en par with my Fleet Defiant regarding hitpoints and shield values, while having an additional, defensive boff skill (considering the ensign slot isn't a useless third tac ensign).
Afterwards I looked at the raw stats for each Fed escort and started comparing:
On paper, the Kumari has the same shield mod and more hull than the basic fed escorts and basic raptors (who have more hull, but worse shields) and is on the same level as the c-store Armitage and just slightly worse than the Fleet Defiant, who is burdened with a third Tac-Ensign.
Fleet Defiant: 33.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Armitage: 32.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Kumari: 32.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
Basic Fedscort*: 30-31.000 Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod
*MVAE, Advanced, Patrol, Mirror Patrol, Mirror Advanced, Tactical Refit,
Now you can have a bet on throwing huge cash onto zen and opening lockboxes for jhec and duty packs for a jhas since this is what cryptic wants from its customers.
Why do you think Kumari is such a TRIBBLE ship compared?
The Charal looks to be the best out of the bunch and on par with other escorts. Its probably the other versions I see going boom habitually but I can't be sure since I don't ask and can't tell the difference just by looking. Speed would definitely help the other versions as well as the Birds of Prey.
That said, there's a lot of new really awful Fed Bug pilots in game at the moment too so it's not like it's purely down to the deficiencies of the Kumari line.
The Federation has the best non-cloaking glass-cannon in the game. Use your own advantages to counter unless you want the game homogenized into a big gloopy pudding of boredom!
This has been 'recycling arguments used against Federation suggestions.'
Since when KDF got it's last thing? That's right. Last unique thing KDF got was from season 6. Whine about bortasqu(=oddy), breen, timeships, jemmy ships, kamarag(=amby), but those things are not unique to the factions because feds got them as well!
CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
So... the last unique thing the KDF got was last season.
Holy TRIBBLE. You've totally made me reconsider my entire position. I now agree, the KDF should have versions of every Federation Ship because they don't get something unique every season.
And that was 10 months ago.
CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."