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xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

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  • fluffytargcreamfluffytargcream Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

    \discuss

    select few, their bird of Prey.
    w/ an Enhanced BC on their T5 BoP, which is perfect for the TOS enthusiest, for the decloak Plasma Ball recloak maneuver
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Bird of Prey, possibly that ship with artillery guns on its back, and that's about it. I can't see player D'dedridexes with a battle cloak.
  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Maybe all their ships. Remember, these are Romulans we're talking about. And since they've copied the Reman Scimitar, it's more than likely that even the Mogai and D'deridex will have such cloaking capabilities. But for the sake of argument and 'balance', they'll have 'normal' cloaks.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Based on what's been experienced in the game so far, small BoPs and the Warbirds cloak. I've yet to encounter a Mogai that cloaks.

    So regular cloak for the early levels and probably at least a Warbird with battle cloak and a BoP with Advanced Battle Cloak at high end.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    From what I can tell Warbirds are getting a Core their special thing...so battle cloak I will say is for BOP type ships
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I would say a few might, unless the Singularity Core allows some sort of phased cloaking.
  • fluffytargcreamfluffytargcream Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    A Scimitar class should have a BC, but i just don't know whether they will release one to us.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    To me it seems all Romulan ships would end up with a Battlecloak.

    And given Romulan ships aren't as manuverable as KDF ships, I could see them needing a Battlecloak to combat slow turn rate with Romulan hit and run attacks.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    All Romulan ships should come with a cloak, but only a few should have a battlecloak.

    If the Scimitar is made a playable ship. it should come with an even more enhanced battlecloak than the KDf have.
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  • theonerussian762theonerussian762 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, being the nub i am, if i get to see a Nerada class, i will squeal!
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Battle cloaks require planning and balance. So, no, I don't expect them on every Romulan ship.
  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    a battle cloak is not the greatest thing in the world and cloaking at the wrong time can make you go BOOM!
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

    \discuss

    I hope all ships
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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    If they're going to match the feel of Romulans for the series and movies.. Battle cloak on everything. and a romulan enhanced battlecloak will be a very scary thing as it will not only be able to fire beams/cannons while cloaked, it will still have shields.

    Feds worried about KDF.. HA! Romulans a lot more unhappy with the Federation the the KDF.

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  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    oldkhemaraa wrote: »
    If they're going to match the feel of Romulans for the series and movies.. Battle cloak on everything. and a romulan enhanced battlecloak will be a very scary thing as it will not only be able to fire beams/cannons while cloaked, it will still have shields.

    PvP against romulans should be ugly.

    This. Who knows though since this is Cryptic we are talking about. Cryptic design decisions have a tendency to be cryptic at times.
  • xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yeah, I share some of the viewpoints that some have discussed here, Iam kinda basing what ive seen npcs do thus far in game and also what romulan ships are known for. My view, is that possibly a good chunk of the romulan ships we will be able to pilot will have battlecloaks. Itll give them an edge, and possibly a more uniqueness compared to the kdf side. Iam not going to go that far and saying having a battlecloaks gives you a "I win" notion but never the less I do feel that romulan ships should have a battlecloak on it.

    D'Deridex on the other hand... its hard to say yes to it having a battlecloak, if it does great, its not "to me" going to be game breaking, but if it doesnt and is just equiped due to the power core it has "non combat cloak" thats fine as well.
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  • acoldtacoldt Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Practically every Romulan ship should be able to battlecloak, the balancing factor can easily be a longer cooldown in battle based on the size of ship you're in.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

    \discuss
    On all ships? Maybe. The video and web page kind of suggest that the Romulans are only getting one type of ship, the warbird class of ships. And the graphic only shows four ships. It looks like, not counting whatever they release on the c-store, that romulans are only getting a handful of ships.

    However, I'd put my money on Battlecloaks being BROKEN by the May update, for everyone. That seems like the type of coding error that Cryptic would mistakenly allow to go live.
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  • xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    On all ships? Maybe. The video and web page kind of suggest that the Romulans are only getting one type of ship, the warbird class of ships. And the graphic only shows four ships. It looks like, not counting whatever they release on the c-store, that romulans are only getting a handful of ships.

    However, I'd put my money on Battlecloaks being BROKEN by the May update, for everyone. That seems like the type of coding error that Cryptic would mistakenly allow to go live.

    Oh defenetly, but id be pleasently surprised if it didnt happen lol. Im still wondering how the servers are going to handle the massive loads itll have on it on the 21st lol
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I think all of them should be IMO...even if they need to be weaker for it, they are the masters of cloak.
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  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The only KDF ships that have battlecloaks are the BoPs - I expect Cryptic to follow the same logic.

    There is no way a 37k+ hull ship like the Mogi should be able to battlecloak - that will be overkill

    And the D'Deridex - you would not want a battle cloak on that whale - awesome ship - love it - but when cloaking it's going to be one HUGE SLOW moving target with no shields!
  • aftulusaftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I say give them what they should have rp wise and just build the game that way. Make the whole game correctly and find ways so it's playable. It's called strategy. if the game can't support it, with varying ships and powers, it's not done correctly. It's absolutely possible to make a game accurate to fiction.

    Even if they have to add whole new aspects to the game it's still possible.
  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    aftulus wrote: »
    I say give them what they should have rp wise and just build the game that way. Make the whole game correctly and find ways so it's playable. It's called strategy. if the game can't support it, with varying ships and powers, it's not done correctly. It's absolutely possible to make a game accurate to fiction.

    Even if they have to add whole new aspects to the game it's still possible.

    Easier to say than to implement into a playable game.
  • vonhellstingvonhellsting Member Posts: 543 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well balance issues aside it would make sense for most if not all Romulan ships to have battle cloak. Since cloaking is practically synonymous with Romulan ships unlike Klingon ships that originally only had cloaking devices on specific starships.
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    vonhellsting wrote: »
    Well balance issues aside it would make sense for most if not all Romulan ships to have battle cloak. Since cloaking is practically synonymous with Romulan ships unlike Klingon ships that originally only had cloaking devices on specific starships.

    I think there's better ways to show Romulan cloaking superiority than just giving battle cloaks to ships too slow and unmanueverable to safely use them.

    A 'singularity phased' cloak that adds a damage and evasion boost when the Romulan decloaks would be just one example. Or an 'advanced cloak' on some smaller ships that allows them to fire undetected for about 3 seconds before uncloaking would be awesome.
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

    \discuss

    Cloak is really a very Romulan thing, I would hope all Romulan ships have battlecloak.
  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited March 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    On all Romulan ships or just a select few?

    \discuss

    To the best of my knowledge their battleships and destroyer/BC type ships do not have cloaks. I'd guess they'll be on more than just the birds of prey, but lots of ships won't have them too.
  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited March 2013
    reximuz wrote: »
    Cloak is really a very Romulan thing, I would hope all Romulan ships have battlecloak.

    Well of the NPC Romulan ships, the Bird of Prey and Scimitar have it, and the D'Deridex and Mogai don't.

    So it's about 50/50.

    And I'd expect that the Scimitar will only be a VA level, C-store 3 pack.
  • vonhellstingvonhellsting Member Posts: 543 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    jermbot wrote: »
    I think there's better ways to show Romulan cloaking superiority than just giving battle cloaks to ships too slow and unmanueverable to safely use them.

    A 'singularity phased' cloak that adds a damage and evasion boost when the Romulan decloaks would be just one example. Or an 'advanced cloak' on some smaller ships that allows them to fire undetected for about 3 seconds before uncloaking would be awesome.

    Well the Romulans certainly need something that makes their cloak technology stand out from the Klingons. I think most would agree we don't want Romulans to just be a mirror of the Klingon cloaking lineup. Romulans have a loooong history with cloaking technology and it would be nice if that was represented in some way or form in the game.
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