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Need Help - 2 rounds Feds Ripped KDF a new one

born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
edited March 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Arena PvP

2 rounds in a row - pugs - but still some good KDF pvpers

same 5 crusiers

chain healing each other while all doing FAW - constant FAW at all times

I am running a torp B'rel which was pretty useless - HY - useless - bio-neutral - useless - tricobalt - useless - mines - useless

Transphasic spreads were all I could use and Plasma spreads - still with all the shield transfers and heals - I could do nothing

funny I had the highest damage in the last round as only my transphasic and plasma torps were doing any real damage!

What to do?
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited March 2013
    Against a coordinated group like that? Probably nothing.

    Transphasic and DOT is probably the only way you're going to get past the shields, as the cross healing won't get you past the shields. Even if you get transphasic and DOT damage on them, hull heals will also help keep them alive.
  • maakurmaakur Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Disable, distrupt, and CC if you can, and focus fire targets.

    If that's not possible, then yeah you're probably pretty boned :/
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Use scrambles to break healing. PSW to break extends already up.

    Use a lot of stuff like buffed up EWP to kill people through their shields and to hold targets for your Escorts to wipe out.

    Ask for a pugmade in KDFPVP, if you want to team up with some good players.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • bobtheyakbobtheyak Member Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    shookyang wrote: »
    Against a coordinated group like that? Probably nothing.

    ^this. Coordinated Fed teams spell doom for KDF.
  • inktomi19inktomi19 Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    snoge00f wrote: »
    Use scrambles to break healing. PSW to break extends already up.

    Use a lot of stuff like buffed up EWP to kill people through their shields and to hold targets for your Escorts to wipe out.

    Ask for a pugmade in KDFPVP, if you want to team up with some good players.
    Scrambles TRIBBLE up healers bigtime, especially if they are using ET or ST as part of their healing rotation, since they're likely to have ST on cooldown. They also mess with FAW.
  • dova25dova25 Member Posts: 475
    edited March 2013
    Well that is a new one in numbers have to agree.There were some federation teams using 2 cruisers and a recluse or 2 recluse using transfer shield between them and FAW with elite auto-healing weapons and probably having human boff's (that is equal to 204 % repair rate) but I haven't meet a full team of 5 .Yet.

    My fleet doesn't have access to T4 weapons but i noticed in PVP that these elite weapons can do something against one auto-healing FAW.One thing it works is to tractor the cruiser and hit it with elite weapons if you have them.If there is shield transfer in between than things are getting complicated.
    On the other hand I think the OP is from orions and he probably already has the kdf elite disruptors on his ship.If even the elite disruptors can't do anything against fed zombie ship's then I don't know what to say.

    I already said it in forum that in these moment federation is stacking many heals (leadership =204% +autohealing FAW) while kdf has limited firepower and burst capabilities to do much against them.There were games were full kdf team couldn't kill one T5 federation cruiser running the healing combo.Yes kdf won that day because there was just one fed zombie ship but slowly all federation ships will get tougher and tougher to kill.Kumari , who is supposed to be a glass canon, if it stacks the combo become a zombie escort with a firepower capable to kill a raptor on 2 passes.

    That is why I asked in forum 5 fore /5 tactical console ships to kdf ,because PVP from some time is getting much harder for kdf due to only federation healing buff's (don't want to start the leadership issue -it is another thread and yes the availability for kdf of human boffs is near zero)
    Actually when you have to fight such cruisers +transfer shield power then PVP is starting to look more like grind . Btw personally am doing less PVP now than I did before the fleet marks wrapper/leadership fixed/kumari/elite weapons issue.
    "There already is a Borg faction, its called the Federation. They assimilate everyone else's technology and remove any biological or technical distinctiveness and add it to their own."
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  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    .... and don't take your B'rel torp boat into arena.
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  • emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    bobtheyak wrote: »
    ^this. Coordinated Fed teams spell doom for KDF.

    lols

    ball up closer for my iso glory allvapez please

    now with aftershock psw!!

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  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,221 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    crusty8mac wrote: »
    .... and don't take your B'rel torp boat into arena.

    Why not ? I do just fine with a B'rel Torp Boat in Arenas. B'rel Torp Boats are mega fun to play and usually utterly effective. You can get some massive damage output having that ship set up the right way.
    C-Store Inc. is still looking for active members on the fed side. If you don't have a fleet feel free to contact me in game @stegi.
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  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    starwrathforever wrote: »
    Yeah...at least we Feds can win in this case...otherwise every time when pugging with random comrades the evul Klinguns almost always hurt our candy asses...:eek:

    It's your fault for keeping those delicious peppermints in your back pocket.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    maakur wrote: »
    Disable, distrupt, and CC if you can, and focus fire targets.

    If that's not possible, then yeah you're probably pretty boned :/

    ^This. The fedball has been a tactic that has been working from way back in the old days of PvP.
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  • istvaanshogaatsuistvaanshogaatsu Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Bet that team was made up of Eve players. Classic spidertank.
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