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Aegis or Adapted Maco?

redicanredican Member Posts: 21 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Federation Discussion
I'm currently running the Adapted Maco shield array and engines with a Fleet Deflector. It all runs well together with my build. Needless to say the Aegis set has a really nice aesthetic look to it, but it was developed in season 2 or 3 if not mistaken. Before I begin a trek in gathering the array of resources needed, is this Aegis tech obsolete in comparison to the XII Adapted set that I already have?
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  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Aegis would be a significant downgrade from MK12 gear.
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Adapted Maco / Honour Guard is perhaps the best set in game.

    Don't change it for anything, except maybe Borg if you are all about tanking.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    thepantsparty wrote: »
    Aegis would be a significant downgrade from MK12 gear.

    Quantify 'significant' numerically, in STO terms if possible. Thanks.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    People underestimate the usefulness of the Aegis set defence bonus in PvP. Adapted will get you further as a general purpose set though.
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  • ariseaboveariseabove Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    redican wrote: »
    is this Aegis tech obsolete in comparison to the XII Adapted set that I already have?

    It's a different set completely the Maco is an attack set where as the Aegis is defense and a pretty high one at that, it works best on engy and tac ships but in saying that you also require a few skills for it to work more efficiently.

    If your toon is skilled for maco and you put an Aegis set on it will appear to be a step backwards however as above if you re train for it, tanking becomes second nature.

    I run Aegis sets on Voyager and on Occasionally on an Excelsior and both are very hard to kill especially Voyager with its armor but dps isn't a strong point.
  • redicanredican Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm running the Adapted set because the gear has quality hull repair and shield heal properties just for tanking. In comparison, I don't exactly see how Aegis out deals these skill. Am I missing something? Perhaps a specific example.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited March 2013
    MACO is currently the 'better' of the sets for defensive issues, for average captains. That is if we were ignoring every other factor in the game.

    There's really no 'one' killer set, just variations on a theme, General rule of thumb MACO for defense, OMEGA for damage, and AEGIS 'cause your too damn lazy to get MACO or OMEGA.

    I will say that I have AEGIS (and I am lazy), and used it for for the last 10 ranks both on a fed and kling toons to good effect. Saved decent ec and let me skip the XI variants. And it's cool looking - unique enough that you don't see many who have it.

    If we're talking PvP - then it becomes a more of a mix and match set depending on your build to max out 'whatever' you're trying to do. There are plenty of threads on builds for PvP.

    But then again.... call my judgement into question:

    I purchased the Reman XII experimental set from T5 rom rep. At the moment I would say (IMO) it's comparable to MACO in use, but not in technical stats. This is an anecdotal reference, but I actually last longer with REMAN XII set than MACO when tanking, 75 to 80% of the time due to the stacking capacitance.

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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I guess my question is what do you plan to do in the game. I do PVE so Adapted MACO is fine with me (I also have the Mk XII MACO and Borg sets along with Aegis).
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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    My Fed Tac PvPs with Aegis. It's an ideal set for speedtanking. I also use it for general PvE just because I love the visuals. I definitely don't recommend for eSTFs though.
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  • jornadojornado Member Posts: 918 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Aegis is rather lackluster in PvE since speed tanking is not as common and usually you are trying to mitigate single massive hits (i.e. invisitorps). The resist proc for the set is also less useful than the 20 percent plasma resist against Borg than the more modern STF sets.

    However, it is highly underestimated in PvP IMO, as the bonus defense is awesome when you are nerfed to a standstill, you can be at a dead stop and sit at 10% bonus defense with elusive rather than being chaincritted while at negative or 0 defense. The resist proc on the three piece bonus is also useful as it can resist all types of damage at once, and its a hull resist rather than a shield resist, as well as seemingly not being effected by diminishing returns.

    For a level 50, the shield capacity of Aegis is actually higher than MACO Mk XI, albeit with more bleed through.

    Aegis takes more skill to use well, but it can be awesome with the right skills and play style. And it looks awesome.
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  • redicanredican Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    My whole goal is to design a fleet support cruiser that will repair other ships in combat or if under fire, will withstand anything, taking away fire from team mates, wasting the enemies time and weapon energy and offensive Boff skills while my team can focus on tactics such as targeting common threats. By the time the enemy figures out that all the time spent attacking me could have been spent on a weaker ship, they will aquire a new target that is fresh with full shields ect. It will be time that couldn't be recovered all while my team will be implementing their next target. My build is psychological warfare where the enemy cannot defeat the target I am healing and will waste time trying to attack me.

    This will be my theory for the Fleet Exploration Cruiser that is to come.
  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    Quantify 'significant' numerically, in STO terms if possible. Thanks.

    I'd say at least 50 or so.
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