How come TMP cost $40 million to make while TWOK cost only $12 million to make and had wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more special effects?!
TMP had like 90% special effects, 9 hours of flying through V'Ger!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
- CGI advanced between TMP and TWOK allowing computer modeling to be cheaper
- Re-use of props means the first film footed a larger bill
- TMP had more sets, with larger spaces, and more locations. In TWOK, a lot of re-use occurs such as Reliant and Enterprise bridge being nearly identical, and sets are generally smaller or enhanced with CGI.
- Production delays means keeping people on staff longer, renting space longer, etc. Delays are always bad from a budger perspective.
- TMP was also much longer iirc, requiring a heavier load of special effects, script writing, filming etc.
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Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Much of the first round of Sp-Fx that were done for TMP ended up being unusable, for various reasons and had to be reworked/redone.
At the time, Doug Trumbull, though a wonderful FX-artesian, used Star Trek Phase-II/TMP to try and build an Effects House of his own.
Things didn't go so well...
Essentially, it almost doubled the cost of TMP's effects.
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TMP had like 90% special effects, 9 hours of flying through V'Ger!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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- CGI advanced between TMP and TWOK allowing computer modeling to be cheaper
- Re-use of props means the first film footed a larger bill
- TMP had more sets, with larger spaces, and more locations. In TWOK, a lot of re-use occurs such as Reliant and Enterprise bridge being nearly identical, and sets are generally smaller or enhanced with CGI.
- Production delays means keeping people on staff longer, renting space longer, etc. Delays are always bad from a budger perspective.
- TMP was also much longer iirc, requiring a heavier load of special effects, script writing, filming etc.
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Much of the first round of Sp-Fx that were done for TMP ended up being unusable, for various reasons and had to be reworked/redone.
At the time, Doug Trumbull, though a wonderful FX-artesian, used Star Trek Phase-II/TMP to try and build an Effects House of his own.
Things didn't go so well...
Essentially, it almost doubled the cost of TMP's effects.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion