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Need help with Wells temporal ship Build!

apple1988apple1988 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
edited March 2013 in Federation Discussion
Hi All,

I have opened a lock box and i have received this ship.

Im a VA lvl 50 Sci captain. and i need some tips in making this ship in to a death boat :)

Any building tips for me?

I like to Pve but i want it to be able to survive during PVP as support

In Pve i would like to do damage.

My current load out of weapons

Front : 1x polarized dual beam tetryon 2x plasma torp

aft: 2x rapid fire transphasic torp 1x dominion polaron

Deflctor: borg
Shield: j'em hadar
Engine J'em hadar

Engineer console: Neutroium 3x or ( 1x neutronium 1x Borg consle 1x isometriccharge)
Science: 1x typler glider 3x particle generator or ( 3x shield emitters)
Tactical: 3x ambiplasma envelop (increase plasma torp damage)

-see pictures of boff skills & ship layout-

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k640/Appeltje1988/wellsbuild_zpscbc27093.jpg

Any advise would be welcome :) i want to be deadly in pvp,

thanks !
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  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf
    corbinwolf#9797
         Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    If you type your ship's type and class into the search option there will be several build threads. In general, this ship is an excellent healer apparently (I own the Mobius myself - a different kettle of fish altogether). Remember, unlike the Mobius this is not an escort ship. That being said, you can do plenty with it to make things interesting in PVP. The following advice is useful for PVE as well.

    As for build - the temporal warfare set seems to work really well on this ship. However, if PVP is something you would like to dip into you may want to go for the following:

    Fore Weapons: 4X Dual Cannons (You cannot load DHC) - Weapon Type can be AP/Disurptor/ etc...

    Rear Weapons: 2X Turret & Cutting beam

    Deflector & Engine: Borg Set
    Shields: Borg OR Maco

    Engineering: Neutronimum throughout
    Science: Tach, Borg, ZPE and soncole of your choice
    Tac: Weapon amplifiers like AP Mag Regulators or similar - best quality possible.

    Devices: Subspaces Field Modulator & Red Matter Device if you have one. Otherwise, stock up on batteries (weapon and engine).

    As for bridge officer powers, consider using Omega, Beta, CSV, CRF, Extend Power to Shields, etc... I see that you already have hazard emitters and what not... being a science captain there are undoubtedly other suggestions available to help you maximize those powers especially intended to help your survivability. I am a tac captain myself so this is where my suggestions come to an end...

    Generally, when it comes to PVP your going to get rid of most gimmicky consoles in favor of survivability and punch. Although, some consoles can be helpful including the subspace jumper if you have one. If you do use the temporal warfare set you should do extra hmwk on this as I am not very familiar with its advantages or disadvantages.

    Finally, remember that PVP is all about team work! Even the best tac captain will do TRIBBLE against a well equipped/prepped cruiser with heals and what not coming out of its wazoo. For example, in an especially long and unusal PVP match last night I was killed 5 times but killed 29 ships myself! The next match I went into I was killed 4 times and managed to kill 0 ships! So yeah, without the proper team work your pretty much firing blanks! Generally, when pugging it, I suggest that you focus fire on the ship being hit by at least one other team mate (especially if nobody has stepped up to give directions) and don't hesitate to throw heals on escorts when you get the chance (or any ship in need of help for that matter). Very few people bother helping out sometimes and the game just gets frustrating. Stick in groups of two or more if possible.

    I also suggest you look at the Hilbert Guide and STO Planner. I hope that this helps. Take care. ;)
    "The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
  • apple1988apple1988 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    bugspatteredjack wrote: »
    If you type your ship's type and class into the search option there will be several build threads. In general, this ship is an excellent healer apparently (I own the Mobius myself - a different kettle of fish altogether). Remember, unlike the Mobius this is not an escort ship. That being said, you can do plenty with it to make things interesting in PVP. The following advice is useful for PVE as well.

    As for build - the temporal warfare set seems to work really well on this ship. However, if PVP is something you would like to dip into you may want to go for the following:

    Fore Weapons: 4X Dual Cannons (You cannot load DHC) - Weapon Type can be AP/Disurptor/ etc...

    Rear Weapons: 2X Turret & Cutting beam

    Deflector & Engine: Borg Set
    Shields: Borg OR Maco

    Engineering: Neutronimum throughout
    Science: Tach, Borg, ZPE and soncole of your choice
    Tac: Weapon amplifiers like AP Mag Regulators or similar - best quality possible.

    Devices: Subspaces Field Modulator & Red Matter Device if you have one. Otherwise, stock up on batteries (weapon and engine).

    As for bridge officer powers, consider using Omega, Beta, CSV, CRF, Extend Power to Shields, etc... I see that you already have hazard emitters and what not... being a science captain there are undoubtedly other suggestions available to help you maximize those powers especially intended to help your survivability. I am a tac captain myself so this is where my suggestions come to an end...

    Generally, when it comes to PVP your going to get rid of most gimmicky consoles in favor of survivability and punch. Although, some consoles can be helpful including the subspace jumper if you have one. If you do use the temporal warfare set you should do extra hmwk on this as I am not very familiar with its advantages or disadvantages.

    Finally, remember that PVP is all about team work! Even the best tac captain will do TRIBBLE against a well equipped/prepped cruiser with heals and what not coming out of its wazoo. For example, in an especially long and unusal PVP match last night I was killed 5 times but killed 29 ships myself! The next match I went into I was killed 4 times and managed to kill 0 ships! So yeah, without the proper team work your pretty much firing blanks! Generally, when pugging it, I suggest that you focus fire on the ship being hit by at least one other team mate (especially if nobody has stepped up to give directions) and don't hesitate to throw heals on escorts when you get the chance (or any ship in need of help for that matter). Very few people bother helping out sometimes and the game just gets frustrating. Stick in groups of two or more if possible.

    I also suggest you look at the Hilbert Guide and STO Planner. I hope that this helps. Take care. ;)

    thank you for your help, i am not very familiar with the forums search. i will try and look in to that.

    thanks for your advise i will try it out :D
  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    bugspatteredjack wrote: »
    If you type your ship's type and class into the search option there will be several build threads. In general, this ship is an excellent healer apparently (I own the Mobius myself - a different kettle of fish altogether). Remember, unlike the Mobius this is not an escort ship. That being said, you can do plenty with it to make things interesting in PVP. The following advice is useful for PVE as well.

    As for build - the temporal warfare set seems to work really well on this ship. However, if PVP is something you would like to dip into you may want to go for the following:

    Fore Weapons: 4X Dual Cannons (You cannot load DHC) - Weapon Type can be AP/Disurptor/ etc...

    Rear Weapons: 2X Turret & Cutting beam

    You're listing a Mobius build, not a Wells build. The Wells can't equip DCs (source: I have one), and it only has 3 forward weapon slots.

    To the OP, you're not going to deal damage in a Wells. Sci ships that aren't Vestas or carriers just aren't damage dealers. You bring plenty of utility, especially in PvP, but your damage won't come close to what an escort or cruiser can do.
  • apple1988apple1988 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So there are no build for the well temporal ship? pvp pve?

    kinda regret getting it, heck even start regretting making a Sci toon
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    apple1988 wrote: »
    kinda regret getting it, heck even start regretting making a Sci toon

    Welcome to science. :(

    Consider using a carrier instead. That way you can actually do damage and do science. Being science alone is just a weight on the team, to be honest. (The Vesta is popular because it's a weird hybrid of science ship + carrier + escort, and is pretty much a swiss-army-knife in flyable form)
  • davidfloresiidavidfloresii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    http://youtu.be/y2iEkUEOyMQ

    side note:for 4 pve throw on two gravity wells III & I with the Grav Doff. For Pvp take alook at my vids.
  • melurianmelurian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    apple1988 wrote: »
    So there are no build for the well temporal ship? pvp pve?

    kinda regret getting it, heck even start regretting making a Sci toon

    I found myself in a situation similar to yours a couple of weeks ago and this is the build I cobbled together . . .

    Fore: 2x Dual Antiproton Beam Bank MKXI - very rare, 1x Quantum Torpedo Launcher MKXI - very rare
    Aft: 2x Antiproton Turret MKXI - very rare, 1x Tricobalt Mine Launcher MKXI - very rare
    Deflector, Shields, and Engines: Aegis Set
    Eng. Consoles: 1x Neutronium MKXI - rare, 1x Field Emitter MKXI - rare, Isometric Charge Universal Console
    Sci. Consoles: 2x Field Generator MKXI - rare, 1x Particle Generator MKXI - rare, Tipler Cylinder Universal Console
    Tac. Consoles: 3x Antiproton Mag Regulators MKXI - rare

    As for Bridge officers:
    LT CDR Universal: Tactical officer with Beam Overload I, Torp. High Yield II, and Dispersal Pattern Beta II
    LT Universal: Engineering officer with Emergency Power to Shields I and Reverse Shield Polarity I
    ENS Engineering: Emergency Power to Weapons I
    CDR Science: Transfer Shield Strength I, Hazard Emitters II, Tachyon Beam III, Gravity Well III
    LT Science: Polarize Hull I, Tractor Beam II

    I usually disable a shield facing then use my kinetic weapons on my target while the tractor beam or gravity well keeps them in place. I should also note that this build is very much a work-in-progress - I don't have the reputation equipment or the Temporal Warfare set yet but the ship works well in PvE. It won't do the damage of an escort but I've found it to be rather fun.
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Wells is a good ship, though, to be fair.
    And there are definitely ways to make it work for your team. It just takes some experimenting, and you need to be able to take a pounding.

    Something like this: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=ccwells_0
    Could definitely contribute to any STF. Grav well, EWP and chroniton torp spread will make any group sit in one location and hurt. You'll most likely also end up having all the aggro in the map. The rest of the team can take potshots and cause warp core explosion chain reactions.

    Also very useful when saving optionals in ISE and KASE.

    Alternatively: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=stwells_0
    For more of a single target spike kind of thing, with additional debuffs (APB & Sensor Scan) and minor CC from GW3.

    Havent tried it, but should do decentish damage while offering some utility and shareable heals.
  • cracobiggleycracobiggley Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    My wells is based off this build
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=265786

    shield draining torp boat. I do evil things in PVE. I've never done pvp so no idea how well it would do
  • lagunadlagunad Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    apple1988 wrote: »
    So there are no build for the well temporal ship? pvp pve?

    kinda regret getting it, heck even start regretting making a Sci toon

    Welcome to the party, pal!

    Anyway...I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:

    Why are people suggesting running Tachyon Beam?

    Even with every possible bonus and maximum Aux power, it is laughable in PvE. Under 600 damage per shield facing per second.

    And Charged Particle Burst? Seriously? A 5k shield hit every 45 seconds is good in PvE?

    Do people not even read their tooltips to see what pathetic numbers these abilities put out?
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