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scytek
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Dear all,
I may need your further help concerning a competent Bortasqu' build for my tactical Ltd. General in PvE.
I thought about the following setup for my Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser. Please advise if you have any other suggestions.
Fore weapons: 4x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array OR 3x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array and 1x Mk XII Photon Torpedo
Aft weapons: 4x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array OR 3x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array and 1x Mk XII Photon Torpedo
Consoles:
5x Disruptor Console Mk XI blue
1x Borg
4x Neutronium Alloy OR 3x Neutronium Alloy and 1x HoH'SuS BoP
BOFF:
PH1, HE1
TT1, Beam Overload, Beam Fire at Will OR (if I use Torps) TT1, THY1, Fire at Will
TT1, Beam Overload
EPS1, RSP1, AuxSiF, Aceton
EPW1
So, opinions please. I just tried to use my tactical bortasqu' as classic siege engine, only with DHC+Turrets+Autocannon....awfull. Using this heavy baby a s siege engine means that you must! change your position to always face ur enemy....no fun at all.
I may need your further help concerning a competent Bortasqu' build for my tactical Ltd. General in PvE.
I thought about the following setup for my Bortasqu' Tactical Cruiser. Please advise if you have any other suggestions.
Fore weapons: 4x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array OR 3x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array and 1x Mk XII Photon Torpedo
Aft weapons: 4x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array OR 3x Mk XII Disruptor Beam Array and 1x Mk XII Photon Torpedo
Consoles:
5x Disruptor Console Mk XI blue
1x Borg
4x Neutronium Alloy OR 3x Neutronium Alloy and 1x HoH'SuS BoP
BOFF:
PH1, HE1
TT1, Beam Overload, Beam Fire at Will OR (if I use Torps) TT1, THY1, Fire at Will
TT1, Beam Overload
EPS1, RSP1, AuxSiF, Aceton
EPW1
So, opinions please. I just tried to use my tactical bortasqu' as classic siege engine, only with DHC+Turrets+Autocannon....awfull. Using this heavy baby a s siege engine means that you must! change your position to always face ur enemy....no fun at all.
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I equip the entire console set (buff weapons damage, accuracy, turn rate, and reduced cooldown on console abilities) in my engineering slots, and pack 1x neutronium, 1x emitter amp, 2x disruptor induction coils, 2x polaron phase modulators and 1x transphasic compressor. (or for PvP 1x DIC, 1x PPM, 2x TPC, plasmonic leech)
Weapon-wise I load polarized disruptors and transphasics. Typical loadout is single cannon, beam array, rapid-fire tp launcher and cluster torp forward, turret, beam array, rapid-fire launcher and mines aft.
I also equip either the KHG set or the Breen Absolute Zero set.
I mix and match my BOffs depending on the mission but I never enter PvP without Aceton Beam III, and I don't go anywhere without Aux to Dampeners. Usually my tac skills will include some combination of Tac Team, Torpedo High Yield, Beam Overload, Cannon Rapid Fire and either Mine Dispersal Beta or Torpedo Spread.
My combat strategy couldn't be simpler. Charge the enemy, guns blazing. Imobilize them as you pass with either Eject Warp Plasma or Tractor Beam, park some mines, fire aft torpedoes, and if necessary hit Aux to Dampeners and Evasive Maneuvers and throttle back to reverse to pull a (relatively) quick 180.
Usually I destroy NPCs in a single pass, or at least beat them up badly enough that the HoH'SuS can finish them off. Players take a few more hits, but the Subspace Snare comes in handy there. With Aceton Beam debuff I can out-DPS any tacscort (for the first thirty seconds of the duel, anyway) and I can take even more abuse than I can dish out.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Any other opinions on my build and the tact. variant?
In my opinion, the Bortasqu' is not the ideal ship to build a beam boat around. A Fleet Vor'cha would serve better. In the Bortasqu' its actually fairly diffult to hold that fairly narrow broadside arc to hit the enemy with all eight beams, unless your fighting something equally immobile like a Borg Cube, in which case you may as well frontload your firepower.
With my build you get decent firepower from all angles but especially the front arc. You use your mass and inertia to your advantage by pulling flat-spins to keep the enemy in your sights (as a tac captain you have an extra maneuverability buff to help with this, but even just cutting the throttle from full forward to reverse makes this thing swing around fairly easily.)
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Your consoles don't make sense you only use one tactical boosting type and you don't use a torpedo tac console that's Star Trek 101
Aceton beam is useless even more so in pvp it's effects negligible you'll get much more bang for your buck with demIII especially if using single cannons
The most efficient way of running one of these is with beams as far as I have seen pvp side
Pve you can run dhc because stuff doesn't move and when it does its all scripted so you know where it's going to shimmy to
Search on YouTube for "bargain bortas" check out thisslers vid he uses MK XI uncommon gear to squish some Borg and to good effect plus if will show you the best way to manoeuvre her into position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7m-UUiCqw&list=UUx_lDoAL7bHhLrwsvxNxp7A&index=6
looks quite strong to me.
I'd hardly call a 75% reduction in incoming energy weapon damage "negligible." Again, I've experienced this first-hand. I've pulled the teeth of too many Defiants to ever consider aceton beam "useless."
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Yeah, dual beam banks and a Hargh'peng up front will turn a Cube inside out quite nicely. That's very similar to the weapons loadout I have on my Kamarag.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
That's what I thought. The setup looks good. And consider the 3 dual beam banks, the Hargh'Peng and the autocannon under 3 attack patterns firing on a cube with EPtW on....that should hurt!
Weapons:
6-8 turrets, i went with phased polaron (I prefer 8 some people like 7 with a cutting beam or 6 with a for and aft torp, to me no point thing turns to damn slow to make use of torps)
Shield, engine and deflector:
I use either a jem hadar set or borg set depending if i want more staying power or a cool looking purple bort.
Engineering:
4 Neutrino alloys
Science:
1 shield cap console
Tactical:
4 rare or very rare dmg types for you current weapons
I put my tactical guy in the universal position, am I can cycle two cannon rapid fires, tactical team 1's and one attack pattern fairly regular, the rest of my boff abilities are shield and hull heals and a emergency power to weapons for added dmg against big targets.
This build works very well on the bort as she is a slow turning beast of a ship. the 360 attack pattern turrets allow for maximal dps on target at all times (remember always shoot at ships fellow allies are shooting at!). Add in my tactical officers dmg buffs and the bridge officers skills the damage out put is actually pretty damn good as well. Another side note to this ship is you generate a little less threat spamming turrets even with dmg buffs, so your heals can more frequently be used to keep more squishy members of the stf alive and well.
Hope this helped ya make a build for the big and slow turning bort.
Side note: I rarely pvp in it but it has held its own when I do but be warned with this build it is not a solo killer beast mode ship.
Ktanco
Using DHC on the Bortasqu in pve is so easy and its the only way to really take advantage of the Bortasqu's 5 tac consoles and Lt Cmdr and Lt Tac stations if you run the universals that way.
Just make sure to max out impulse thrusters skill, have at least 6 ranks or max engine performance, use honor guard engines, and run 1 or 2 movement buffs like attack pattern omega or Aux to dampers. PVE is very easy to plan ahead 30 secs to a min in advance to when you need to make large turns, and you just have to make sure you have evasive maneuvers or one of the other movement buffs ready for when you know you do need to make a large turn like from 1 transformer to the other in Khitomer space. Also try to run at least 50 engine power most of time or pop an eng battery when turning if you don't do this.
If you do all this DHC Bortasqu should be manageble in most PVE like STFs, patrols, and Azure nebula and will make it super easy as you will have more firepower then most escorts and more survivablilty. If you can't manage DHC on the Bortasqu, get the Fleet Torhkat and use DHC on it, that will still do almost as much DPS as DHC Bortasqu.
Here was my last build, I run 3 damage control doffs with it ( must have 1 or 2 purples at least, other can be rare) to keep EPTS3 up full time. Other doffs can be whatever, I use 2 purple evasive doffs with it to lower that cooldown to help with turning.
Lt Cmdr Uni- TT1, CRF1, APO1 (both romulan tac boffs)
Lt Tac- TT1, CSV1
Cmdr Eng-EPTW1, RSP1, EPTS3, Aux2SIF3
Lt Sci- HE1, TSS2
Ensign uni- TB1
gear-
4 DHC
4 Turrets or 3 and cutting beam
HG deflector
HG engines
Elite Fleet shields
eng consoles- Tachyonetic converter, Assmilated module, Zero point conduit, Neutronium
Sci console- field generator
tac console- 5 dispruptor induction coils
Sometimes I switch the 3 universal consoles I have for the 3 pack consoles for fun, both are good options.
Anyway this build will easily out dps the other builds listed here in elite stfs and will destroy them in seconds 1 on 1.
If you trigger APO1+Aux2Dampeners1+Evasive Maneuvers, you can make the Barge of the Dead turn like figure skater.
Don't be afraid to load up on torps, cannons and DBBs. Any NPC big enough to hurt you is slow enough that you can keep it your sights if you just shift into reverse.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
The fact you need to reduce the defiants damage in order to put it down shows how wrong you are it is 75% from base that's not taking into account the "defiants" APA APO FOMM TACFLEET and 5 tactical boosting consoles
The cluster torp would be one weapon firing every 45 seconds that means if you put a tactical console on that your other 7 weapons, which if we're energy would be firing approximately at a rate of 10x that of the cluster torp you do the simple mathematics hence Star Trek 101
But hey I was just trying to help why don't you get yourself on the exchange buy 1 tetryon beam 1 disruptor beam 1 anti proton beam 1 polaron beam 1 phaser beam a photon a quantum a tricobalt and let's all have us some rainbow fun oh an don't forget to bring yourself your aceton beam
Look at this vid it is not mine and that is not my ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZOkFhi91E
I would go with all cannons and turrets being a Tac.
USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
Star Trek Gamers
7 disruptor turrets
1 borg cutting beam
Borg set
in combination with CRF and DEM
as well as
- romulan console with plasma proc
- plasmonic leech
- borg console
The tactic is to hold a defensive energy setting and wait until sensor analysis gets up, then hit some tac buffs and DEM.
The build was quite not perfect but I could bring escorts down. With some optimiziation it would be quite deadly.
Weapons:
Fore: 4 x Disruptor DHCs
Aft: 4 Disruptor Turrets
Equipment:
Assimilated Set
Weapons and Engine batteries are a must have
Consoles:
5 Induction Coils
1 Field Generator
3 x Bortasqu' Consoles and a Neutronium (Or Borg Console)
Boffs:
Cmdr Eng: EPtW1, RSP1, EPtS3, AuxtSIF 3
Ens Uni: EPtS1
Lt Cmdr Tac: TT1, C:RF1, APO1
Lt Tac: TT1, C:RF1
Lt Sci: HE1, TSS2
Decloak after stacking all tac buffs, hold an enemy in place with the borg tractor beam and let rip. They'll never know what hit 'em. This is similar to my build which i use in PvP on a daily basis.
Hope this helps :P