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johhannejohhanne Member Posts: 41 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Ten Forward
might have been interested another time....

return our marks please.

that is all
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  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2013
    Please LEAVE the Fleet Marks TRIBBLE to the Fleet Marks thread. Don't clutter the threads with
    "PLS RETURN THE MARKS!!11111"
  • nova2284nova2284 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    why should we care bring back the fleet marks make it a daily with 20 hour cooldown only reward 50 marks Get rid of the games BUGS! PLEASE they been going on far too long and all want do is add ships... As soon game bug free you have my cash again that is all we want.
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    DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
  • azntrigboiazntrigboi Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nova2284 wrote: »
    why should we care bring back the fleet marks make it a daily with 20 hour cooldown only reward 50 marks Get rid of the games BUGS! PLEASE they been going on far too long and all want do is add ships... As soon game bug free you have my cash again that is all we want.

    All some of us want is a spam free thread. Go take your opinion to the appropriate thread instead of infesting every thread you get your hands on.
  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Still upset about recent events. After I purchase this I'm going right back to boycotting Cryptic until other things are rectified. :P


    P.S. - Still mad.
  • strorusstrorus Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You're a career officer they already have your cash.

    Also, spamming is for ESD chat son.

    Flipping Heck, stop moaning already... Seems every thread is being taken over my FM Moaners! :mad:

    Foundry is not fleet play so no fllet marks simple, I agree with Cryptics move and understand that's they'll be increasing FM rewards elsewhere.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    There's been some spillover lately where folks are going into threads about other issues and making comments that are solely in regards to the fleet marks changes.

    We really need to be able to use these forums to talk about all aspects of the game, not just one specific issue, no matter how important that issue is; however, we also want to make sure that voices ARE heard.

    So, I'm going to be moving some of those comments that are off-topic, but don't otherwise violate any rules, into this thread. So expect some posts to start appearing here soon.
    Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
  • navarrannavarran Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Typical! Stahl screws us then asks us to pay him.

    Instead of dealing with the fleet marks issue, which for some of us was the final straw, Cryptic throws another promo in our face. Has STO earned more of our money with trust? No. They damaged the playability of the game (atleast for those of us who care if it's worth playing or not) and then waves another chance for us to give them more money. "Good doggy, here's your bone... you worthless mutt"

    Come on people! Answer this with the only thing they listen to, your wallet. If we give them more money now, it will simply say everything is ok and that we don't mind their poor choices. Don't reward them for this behavior. They either don't read our concerns here or don't care.

    There are 290 pages of posts here of players like us saying we don't like this new change and we are tired of not being heard: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=552391 Please don't reward them for that. They need to know that it truly matters. They need to learn to listen to their players. If you reward them now, they won't.

    We all want a better game but that won't happen if they refuse to care about how we feel.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    navarran wrote: »
    Typical! Stahl screws us then asks us to pay him.

    Instead of dealing with the fleet marks issue, which for some of us was the final straw, Cryptic throws another promo in our face. Has STO earned more of our money with trust? No. They damaged the playability of the game (atleast for those of us who care if it's worth playing or not) and then waves another chance for us to give them more money. "Good doggy, here's your bone... you worthless mutt"

    Come on people! Answer this with the only thing they listen to, your wallet. If we give them more money now, it will simply say everything is ok and that we don't mind their poor choices. Don't reward them for this behavior. They either don't read our concerns here or don't care.

    There are 290 pages of posts here of players like us saying we don't like this new change and we are tired of not being heard: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=552391 Please don't reward them for that. They need to know that it truly matters. They need to learn to listen to their players. If you reward them now, they won't.

    We all want a better game but that won't happen if they refuse to care about how we feel.
    Umm... did you miss this patch note?
    dstahl wrote:
    Fleet Marks:

    No-Win Scenario:
    *Increased the rewards for rounds 4, 5 and 6 from 5/8/13 to 10/18/28 respectively.
    **This increases Fleet Mark rewards by 30.
    *The following events now grant an additional 30 Fleet Marks.
    **Colony Invasion
    **Starbase Blockade
    **Starbase Fleet Defense
    **Starbase Incursion
    **Starbase Alert now grants an extra 10 Fleet Marks each time an enemy wave is defeated for the first 3 waves.
    **Azure Nebula rescue now grants twice as many Fleet Marks.
    *Defera invasion missions:
    **Easy missions now grant 13 Fleet Marks.
    **Medium missions now grant 35 Fleet Marks.
    **Hard missions now grant 60 Fleet Marks.
    *Nukara missions:
    **Easy missions now grant 13 Fleet Marks.
    **Medium missions now grant 35 Fleet Marks.
    **Hard missions now grant 60 Fleet Marks.
    *Mine Trap now grants an extra 30 Fleet Marks upon completion.
    *Added 50 Fleet Marks to each of the PVP daily wrappers:
    **Raze Enemy Headquarters (Daily)
    **Raze Enemy Secret Headquarters (Lt. General - Daily)
    **Dominate the Heroes of the Enemy (Daily)
    **Dominate the Leaders of the Enemy (Lt. General - Daily)
    **Claiming Enemy Reserves (Daily)
    **Claiming Enemy Emergency Reserves (Lt. General - Daily)
    **Reclaim the Neutral Zone (Daily)
    **Restore the Neutral Zone (Vice Admiral - Daily)
    **Into the Fray (Daily); To the Front Lines (Vice Admiral - Daily)
    **Pacify Enemy Heroes (Daily)
    **Pacify Enemy Leaders (Vice Admiral - Daily)
    The patch notes can't be directly replied to, so the copy-and-paste isn't exact. And if you're wondering when this happened, it was patched to Holodeck on the 21th, and to Tribble earlier than that.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • captainbaldycaptainbaldy Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    navarran wrote: »
    Typical! Stahl screws us then asks us to pay him.

    Instead of dealing with the fleet marks issue, which for some of us was the final straw, Cryptic throws another promo in our face. Has STO earned more of our money with trust? No. They damaged the playability of the game (atleast for those of us who care if it's worth playing or not) and then waves another chance for us to give them more money. "Good doggy, here's your bone... you worthless mutt"

    Come on people! Answer this with the only thing they listen to, your wallet. If we give them more money now, it will simply say everything is ok and that we don't mind their poor choices. Don't reward them for this behavior. They either don't read our concerns here or don't care.

    There are 290 pages of posts here of players like us saying we don't like this new change and we are tired of not being heard: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=552391 Please don't reward them for that. They need to know that it truly matters. They need to learn to listen to their players. If you reward them now, they won't.

    We all want a better game but that won't happen if they refuse to care about how we feel.

    Just as an FYI, when you buy Zen, you're paying Perfect World. Not Cryptic and not DStahl.

    And I'm pretty sure a week lapse from removing an exploit to increasing flark rewards doesn't count as "TRIBBLE over"
  • navarrannavarran Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    trek21 wrote: »
    Umm... did you miss this patch note?


    The patch notes can't be directly replied to, so the copy-and-paste isn't exact. And if you're wondering when this happened, it was patched to Holodeck on the 21th, and to Tribble earlier than that.

    Read the thread http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=552391
  • navarrannavarran Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just as an FYI, when you buy Zen, you're paying Perfect World. Not Cryptic and not DStahl.

    And I'm pretty sure a week lapse from removing an exploit to increasing flark rewards doesn't count as "TRIBBLE over"

    PW pays Cryptic and Stahl......you pay PW, you pay them.
  • captainbaldycaptainbaldy Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    navarran wrote: »
    PW pays Cryptic and Stahl......you pay PW, you pay them.

    Still doesn't change the fact that A. It was one week and B. They did listen to the players and increase flark rewards
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    navarran wrote: »
    Many of the posts in that thread happened in-between the removal, and the return of them in the patch notes.

    Not after... I think you missed the point: people were mad at the removal, and then it was added back in other places, and in bigger numbers than the removed. And if you're saying we should be upset that we were screwed over in the first place...

    That's not something we do anymore ;) It just creates needless anger and frustration that could otherwise be used to more constructive means

    Edit: do you even know how to multi-post?
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I cannot even conceive of a single theoretical reason to take anyone still paying attention at this point to that 290 page embarrassment seriously.


    "We are smart." - Grebnedlog

    Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
  • thisisoverlordthisisoverlord Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I cannot even conceive of a single theoretical reason to take anyone still paying attention at this point to that 290 page embarrassment seriously.

    To not be able to conceive of even a theoretical reason about a the continuation of a forum thread shows a lack of ingenuity on your part :p

    I think you may be exaggerating a tad :D
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  • kyuui13kyuui13 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just as an FYI, when you buy Zen, you're paying Perfect World. Not Cryptic and not DStahl.
    and since Cryptic is a wholly owned sub, of PWE, you are in fact, directly contributing to cryptic.
    And I'm pretty sure a week lapse from removing an exploit to increasing flark rewards doesn't count as "TRIBBLE over"
    Oh you mean the one that Cryptic, put INTO the game? You know the single best way in the game to earn EC DIL and FM at one time, in a ridiculously short Cooldown.

    Yeah, about that.

    They put the "exploit" into the game, not the players, they then blamed us for misusing the mission. The problem was, at that time, that mission was the single best way to get all three major currencies, at the same time. So while they removed the "exploit" they put in, it was their fault to start with.
    Next time you log in, ask yourself this.
    dastahl wrote: »
    If you can't have fun, then what is the point?
  • kyuui13kyuui13 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I cannot even conceive of a single theoretical reason to take anyone still paying attention at this point to that 290 page embarrassment seriously.
    So, you're admitting to being a close minded, opinionated person, who looks down on others that they disagree with


    Glad we got that clear.
    Next time you log in, ask yourself this.
    dastahl wrote: »
    If you can't have fun, then what is the point?
  • darkkindness2darkkindness2 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kyuui13 wrote: »
    and since Cryptic is a wholly owned sub, of PWE, you are in fact, directly contributing to cryptic.

    Oh you mean the one that Cryptic, put INTO the game? You know the single best way in the game to earn EC DIL and FM at one time, in a ridiculously short Cooldown.

    Yeah, about that.

    They put the "exploit" into the game, not the players, they then blamed us for misusing the mission. The problem was, at that time, that mission was the single best way to get all three major currencies, at the same time. So while they removed the "exploit" they put in, it was their fault to start with.

    Just to let you know, you're beating a dead horse. The exploit wasn't that people were using the Foundry wrapper mission to accumulate FM quickly, it was that people were designing Foundry missions solely for the purpose of grinding out those FMs as quickly as possible, which violates the stated intent of the Foundry.

    Even if that weren't the case, Cryptic is allowed to make balancing adjustments to in-game currency rewards. They stated outright that this was a balance adjustment and that Fleet Marks would be added elsewhere, but the forum community didn't believe that it would be done in a reasonable time frame (if at all), and threw a collective fit.

    Since then, Cryptic has added more ways to gain Fleet Marks, and in greater quantity than were available before the Foundry wrapper mission got removed, and it seems like people are generally happy with the addition of a lot more Fleet Marks and varied ways to get them.

    In short, the issue that you're harping on was a short-lived misunderstanding about a rebalancing of in-game currency. Especially egregious is that you're continuing to bring up that issue in a thread that has nothing to do with it, so please, let it die.

    On topic - while I'm bummed that I already picked up some Zen this week due to it being my birthday and having some extra spending cash, I've still got a couple of birthday cards coming, and I just might consider picking up some discounted Zen. Thanks for the sale, even if I don't wind up taking advantage of it personally!
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  • kngorkngor Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Of corse there are many nug's in the game and more wishes of users to bring functions and content into the game, but did anyone recognize that there is never a response to the comments of an announcement?

    I even think they don't read this comments either.

    So we have to submit Support Tickets en mass like we did it in the past if they don't react on the comments.

    An directly speak in an Ask Cryptic to DStahl so we can pin him with his own answers.
    If we ask exact questions and requested a real answer and no contentless bla bla answer then this could work for good.

    And please forgive me to remain optimistic that we get the functions and content we all want.

    And as Reminder, DStahl told that we should send him PM's with our wishes and he promised to consider them in his development plannings.

    Greetings

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  • shifter777shifter777 Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    navarran wrote: »

    This theread is older than the FM patch. Im earning alot of FM with new system. If some people dont pay they dont get payed and then you get no fixes at all. Then maybe no STO at all!
  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Honestly, the most ridiculous claim in this thread is the notion that the whining idiocy on this forum could in any way shape or form pass for representing the will of the entire player base.

    Brandon, whatever they pay you, ask for more.


    "We are smart." - Grebnedlog

    Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
  • zntechzntech Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I have question for all of you specially for the Brainiacs from cryptic?

    Do they have any intention to fix UI bugs specially uniform configuration (tailor) on Klingon and Fed side,to fix configuration bugs with our ships after every GDM patch something go wrong shield or hull or both and all of other bugs.

    After 2 and 1/2 years i am thinking to quit this cause nothing really didn't change it is same when i was paying subscriptions and now in F2P . The treatment for me and all of other players is **** YOU , you are to stupid to understand and aaa well **** happens.

    If this treatment continues game will be showdown very soon, i am talking about this cause i am sitting in main founding positions of 2 fleets with 500 peoples each and we start to losing people they quit the game, they become tiered of Cryptic's BS.

    Understand this as a good intention warning not complain !!!
    In the beginning there was all and then become nothing

    I AM PISSED OFF AFTER 3 YRS. I STILL CAN'T USE OR CHANGE OR DELETE OUTFIT IN 3 OF 5 OUTFIT SLOTS ON MY KLINGON TOON !
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    someone does this report it then walk away

    Warning some losers WILL follow you to other instances
    or even fake videos
    Live long and Prosper
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited June 2013
    Which fake videos are these sollvax?
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    oh various fake videos

    you know claiming to have beaten someone in pvp when you weren't there
    The rather badly faked video of a bunch of "ERPers"
    claiming to have destroyed someones ship when he was half a galaxy away
    pretending to destroy bug ships

    basic fakes

    A common mark of a fake is that it appears on youtube
    Live long and Prosper
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited June 2013
    Everything on youtube is fake. Why even mention the "fake" video destroying 20 bugships in one go?
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Some is even more fake than usual

    Still cheer up won't be up there long im sure
    Live long and Prosper
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    your the RPer here

    Now me Im something entirely different

    but You tube is a compilation of all thats worst in mankind
    pornographic TRIBBLE , cruel TRIBBLE , musical TRIBBLE and other TRIBBLE
    Live long and Prosper
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited June 2013
    You hate youtube but you watch all our videos. Why?
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