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Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit - Tiny

nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Federation Discussion
Recently, the Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit became a lot more appealing to me when they upped it's shield modifier so I decided to pick it up. When I was fooling around changing the hull material and windows and such I noticed the ship was actually very small. So small in fact that I'm surprised that it got classified as a "Heavy Cruiser". Below are a few pictures I took that illustrate my point.

Here I am beside a random Oddy. Pretty sure his chevron is bigger then me lol.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/iphacles/heavy-cruiser2_zpsb595c107.jpg

Here I am again beside an Advanced Escort. As you can see we are pretty close in size.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/iphacles/heavy-cruiser1_zpsba537050.jpg

Anyone else pick up this tiny cruiser since they updated the shield mod to 1.1? The ship is surprisingly nimble with a turn rate of 8 and inertia rating of 30.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The really funny thing about this ship is, that it has the innertia value of Galaxy :P
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You would've been better off with a Fleet Ambassador or Fleet Excelsior. Both are miles ahead in terms of performance.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    You would've been better off with a Fleet Ambassador or Fleet Excelsior. Both are miles ahead in terms of performance.

    I have both of those ships as well. :)
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    The really funny thing about this ship is, that it has the innertia value of Galaxy :P

    Galaxy is 25 I believe.
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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nikephorus wrote: »
    I have both of those ships as well. :)

    You're better off using one of them exclusively.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nikephorus wrote: »
    Galaxy is 25 I believe.

    Like it matters, a ship 8x the volume has almost same inertia :P
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Like it matters, a ship 8x the volume has almost same inertia :P

    You know how much Cryptic dislikes anything that looks remotely like the Galaxy.;)
  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I really feel that Cryptic wasted an opportunity with the Heavy Cruiser Retrofits. If I were trying to improve those ships to T5 standard, I would have focused on the things that set them apart from current offerings and improved its handling.

    There is a very small (and possibly pointless, but you never know until you try) niche available for a high mobility cruiser built to take advantage of Aceton Beam and Warp Plasma; both of which benefit from higher rates of turn in their own ways. Sort of a Bomber/Interceptor Cruiser.

    And yes, it does seem very small parked next to a Galaxy.
    My old (and now mostly obsolete) exploration suggestions thread. Give it a read. :)
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The older ships are like that. I'm often amused, flying my Excelsior, to notice that "modern" ships like the Flepatesc and Armitage are just as long and much bulkier.
    misterde3 wrote: »
    You know how much Cryptic dislikes anything that looks remotely like the Galaxy.;)

    On the other hand they gave it the Venture skin, which is 10x more pretty than the basic Galaxy. I think there's one person on the team who likes the Galaxy and they burned all their cred to get that skin. >_>
  • eraserfisheraserfish Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    capnmanx wrote: »
    I really feel that Cryptic wasted an opportunity with the Heavy Cruiser Retrofits. If I were trying to improve those ships to T5 standard, I would have focused on the things that set them apart from current offerings and improved its handling.

    There is a very small (and possibly pointless, but you never know until you try) niche available for a high mobility cruiser built to take advantage of Aceton Beam and Warp Plasma; both of which benefit from higher rates of turn in their own ways. Sort of a Bomber/Interceptor Cruiser.

    And yes, it does seem very small parked next to a Galaxy.

    Warp Plasma maybe, but Aceton would still be useless under most circumstances.

    Nevertheless, I agree with you in that there is a considerable niche for Cruisers that aren't designed for pure tanking. Engineering Consoles and high officer slots on a small but relatively manoeuvrable vessel would be desirable, even if such capabilities come at the cost of raw durability.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    momaw wrote: »
    On the other hand they gave it the Venture skin, which is 10x more pretty than the basic Galaxy. I think there's one person on the team who likes the Galaxy and they burned all their cred to get that skin. >_>

    The person in question was Adam "CapnLogan" Williams and he no longer works there.

    http://holosuitemagazine.com/a-fond-farewell-stos-adam-capnlogan-williams-moves-on/

    here's a list of all the ships he made:

    http://aw3d.weebly.com/the-ships-of-star-trek-online.html

    and you'll find the Venture skin among them
  • wraithxiiwraithxii Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I LOVE this ship! It's my favorite in the game. It's also really fun to use. It's the flagship of my fleet. Yes, it is tiny, which I like. It's fun to pull alongside an Odyssey or a Sovereign and see how small it is.
    I only wish that they would up the inertia to 40. It's the only fleet ship that has the same inertia stats as the T 3 version. Since it's supposed to be the fleet version, I would have figured that they would up that statistic as well.
    It's really perfect except for that one glaring error. In an unrelated matter, we have plenty of "white" skins for the ships. When are we going to get a "black" skin? Something like the Atrox class.
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