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Voyager question...a silly one
captnurntumber
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This question is rather silly, but I found myself wondering about it.
In the final episode of Voyager, Future Janeway tells "Present Janeway" that Voyager is a museum on the Presidio. But even with all of the time travel mumbo jumbo involved in that episode, is the USS Voyager really being used as a museum, with Janway's ready room as an attraction?
When they returned to Earth it was still a fully functional starship...probably with enhancements made by the crew...its not like it was totally useless or banged up so much it couldn't be kept in service. (and if it was, then it wouldn't be "Janeway's Ready Room" anymore, would it...because I find it hard to believe that she would stay in command after a hellish 7 year journey...unless she's a TRIBBLE)
I'm on the fence with this myself. I can see Starfleet wanting to preserve the ship for history's sake, (like the USS Constitution in Baltimore) and wanting to keep it in service.
Of course, maybe as a museum there are holovids about the curators talking about the ship being haunted by the ghosts of dead crewmembers. like the Constitution.
"I was making my rounds before closing the ship/museum up for the day....and when I walkied into the Engine Room there was the ghost of Lt. Carey! He said ' I only had a few more episodes and I'd woulda made it home'...and he disappeared!"
In the final episode of Voyager, Future Janeway tells "Present Janeway" that Voyager is a museum on the Presidio. But even with all of the time travel mumbo jumbo involved in that episode, is the USS Voyager really being used as a museum, with Janway's ready room as an attraction?
When they returned to Earth it was still a fully functional starship...probably with enhancements made by the crew...its not like it was totally useless or banged up so much it couldn't be kept in service. (and if it was, then it wouldn't be "Janeway's Ready Room" anymore, would it...because I find it hard to believe that she would stay in command after a hellish 7 year journey...unless she's a TRIBBLE)
I'm on the fence with this myself. I can see Starfleet wanting to preserve the ship for history's sake, (like the USS Constitution in Baltimore) and wanting to keep it in service.
Of course, maybe as a museum there are holovids about the curators talking about the ship being haunted by the ghosts of dead crewmembers. like the Constitution.
"I was making my rounds before closing the ship/museum up for the day....and when I walkied into the Engine Room there was the ghost of Lt. Carey! He said ' I only had a few more episodes and I'd woulda made it home'...and he disappeared!"
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Admiral Janeway is talking about her Voyager. Bring it back to earth was ajourney of 23 years. So, yeah after 30 years of service, and specially this kind of service, the Voyager was transformed into a museum.
Why u want the poor ship, used and abused so many times, to keep working after 3 decades?
Perhaps the "time travel mumbo jumbo" is making u believe that Captain Janeway's Voyager was the one used as museum.
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The ship was converted to a museum with restaurant specialising in Pancakes.
I always get them confused. Thanks.
No one said that, but consider this:
After the 7 year journey...and they didn't expect to get back in 7 years....The Voyager would have been crewed by others if still in use. Sure in fantasy land, you can say the crew wanted to stay, Janeway decided to stay as captain before being promoted to admiral, but not only is that unrealistic even for a science fiction series...it would make Starfleet look even more idiotic than I thought possible.
So if I'm a starfleet officer up for a command and they give me the USS Voyager...well, sure I'd be "what an honor!" but the Ready Room is mine now. Janeway's statement that it lacked authenticity would be correct...because nothing would be same after another captain took over. Trust me...I'm retiring but after 23 years in the military every time a new commander took over things changed..
Of course we don't know what happened unless someone finds a canon source. But if they let me write it (or amend Janesway's lines about it in "Endgame") I'd say the ship was never decommissioned. The Constellation is still commissioned IIRC. But its not in the Presidio, its in spacedock orbiting the planet. With the tech in trek, its not like museum goers couldn't beam up or take a shuttle to visit the Voyager museum.
Also who's to say that another crew doesn't take it out and pal around for another 20 years and then they turn it into a museum where they restore it to what it was on return.
Why would it be idiotic for the crew to want to stay aboard? Sure, they'd want a year or two to spend with their friends/family, but I imagine many would want to go back to the ship afterward.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
This reminds me of something I read on Memory Alpha.
An early storyboard draft of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country would have featured the HMS Bounty BoP Kirk and co. used in the previous installment being disassembled by the SCE, ostensibly to better understand Klingon tech.
I'd imagine that Voyager would have been through something similar upon her return, although if the novels were anything to go by the forensic process would by them be less destructive compared to today's standards, thus allowing a refit Voyager to serve for a few more decades before being retired.
Idiotic might be the wrong word. Lets just say highly unlikely enough to border on unbelievable.
As mentioned above, Voyager was stuffed to the rafters with alien technology as well as future Borg-killing weapons. By the time they tore everything out to be studied the ship wouldn't be space-worthy. As a museum it only needed a few sections usable.
In reality:
It's story thing #983 the writers didn't think too much about and would have quickly forgotten if the series had continued past that.
All the stolen Alien tech was removed and vapourised
All the botched tech installed by borg drones and terrorists was removed
what was left would not fly indeed it probably wouldn't even hover
also remember most of voyager was patched many many times and was made of replicated and re-replicated spare parts it was basically a junker
Thats actually very plausible. Id work on a Foundry mission including the Voyager museum but I think it might be against the EULA. I'll have to check on that. It'd be fun to write.
I think a Voyager Museum Foundry mission would be great. Personally I'd set up as kind of a "social zone" that you could wander around and do things in, rather than have any sort of plot.
As long as you don't depict the likenesses of any of the actors, you wouldn't be violating the EULA.
But I could totally see her being in a museum. In Enterprise when Riker is in the holosuite he asked Deana if she had ever been on the ship and she said something to the effect "once in a museum i think. So the original Enterprise was placed in a museum, I dont see why voyager would not be. I would assume the excelsior is probably there as well. Maybe a couple 1701's too.
but prime Voyager no because it was just there for seven years and really that's not much.
Plus Picard got the Enterprise D home from the other side of reality in one day, and took Janeway 7 years to get home from the Delta Quadrant.
the alternate timeline from End Game saw a 30ish year old Voyager return home with god knows what alien tech installed onboard. Starfleet probably spent a ton of time/resources disassembling the ship to get said tech out of it and didn't see the benefit of putting a 30 year old ship back into serviceable condition.
Admiral Janeway was in command of Voyager during the return of the rogue Vulcan scientist T'Uerell and her Borg forces. Janeway confronted T'Uerell alongside Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise-E. As Picard took command of the fleet to oppose T'Uerell, Janeway left, assuring him that she would be back with some friends.
After T'Uerell's failed attack on Bajor and Deep Space 9, Janeway's reinforcements joined with Picard's fleet, and that of the Klingons and the Romulans. The combined fleet pursued T'Uerell to a nebula where they finally defeated her. (ST video game: Legacy)
2381
During the Borg Invasion of 2381, Voyager was one of the vessels able to be reallocated to an allied fleet to reinforce the position of the USS Enterprise-E and the USS Aventine at the Azure Nebula. While the Enterprise and Aventine traversed subspace tunnels, hoping to find the Borg launching area, Captain Chakotay and Voyager remained in command of the fleet, overseeing efforts to open other tunnels. However, from an allied fleet of over 300, Voyager was the only ship to survive the Borg invasion force of over 7000 Borg cubes from the subspace tunnel within the nebula, and was able to emit a distress call to Starfleet Command. (ST - Destiny novel: Mere Mortals) While the ship was intact, it had its port warp nacelle sheared from its pylon by a grazing collision with a Borg Cube and was drifting in space. The Voyager crew were attempting to salvage material from the battle site to rebuild the nacelle before joining the USS Enterprise-E and the USS Aventine on their search for the source of the Borg invasion. VOY novel: Full Circle (ST - Destiny novel: Lost Souls)
After the Borg Invasion of 2381, Voyager was refitted with a Quantum slipstream drive and made the flagship of Project Full Circle. Chakotay resigned after the Borg invasion and the ship was placed under the command of Captain Afsarah Eden. One of the first missions after getting into the Delta Quadrant would be to meet up with B'Elanna and Miral Paris, who had faked their own deaths. (VOY novel: Full Circle)
2402
In 2402, the USS Voyager made first contact with the Lorians, an avian species.
I read a few of the books a loooong loooong time ago, and to be honest, I thought most of them were rubbish.
Since they aren't considered canon, I've never been interested in reading any more of them.
well now you know.
and knowing is half the battle.
Really?
The quality of the novels has improved dramatically over the last few years. I'd really recommend you have a look at the Star Trek: Vanguard series, if nothing else.
It would be interesting to know who's in command of Voyager now, if it's still in service - or what former crew members are up to in STO. Janeway is an admiral, Harry's been captain of the Rhode Island, Icheb and Naomi Wildman are in Starfleet, but we know nothing of anyone else, I think.
well, the NCC-1701 was 20 years old when KIRK was assigned as Captain.
and we all know what a hot assignment that was. they were always getting new people rotated in on the security department...:D
I'd hope the quality hasimproved. I'm not kidding in this, in the last Trek book I tried to read, years ago, the author spent a paragrahp talking about Dax's TRIBBLE filling out her uniform. I can't recall the title or anything more than that I was pretty disgusted and threw it away. It was so self gratifying it made me feel ashamed...and dude, I was single and stationed in Europe then. I'm not a prude.
Lets just say I didn't enjoy the books and don't plan on reading any more at the present time.
Wih a lot of the responses ghere and my own personal feeling, I'd think that Voyager would have probably made into a museum, after being thoroughly examined. The books are't considered canon, so I'm not concerned with what they say of the matter. If the matter is unknown, it does leave it open to further storylines.
Kirk's Enterprise was in service for 40 years, but I see what you mean. If you think about STO's current story, however, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that older ships have been re-comissioned due to the mulit-fronted war the Federation is fighting.
U are aware that we are on about the timeline in STO, non of those events have happened in STO so its all a mute point.
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