Yeah, everything. Including C-store and lockbox ships.
I realize that some people are happy to be booking around in a Galor or Tholian sci ship, or the Catian cruiser, and that's cool and everything, but I'd like to suggest that we get a federation and KDF skin for every ship, possibly over time. Here's my reasoning:
First off, the original enterprise, the A, B, C, D, and numerous other ships all had matte white hulls. I, personally, love the look of the type 6 material, which is less reflective than any of the default options. This personal preference is why I suggest the type 6, but I'd be happy to have any alternate skins for the non fed ships in the game, because while I can perfectly accept that a federation under the pressure of war on multiple fronts might be willing to use any ships it can lay hands on to up its numbers, I find it kinda hard to believe that they would put a Tholian Web Weaver into service, go through all the trouble of retooling the thing to be used by humans, and then fail to slap a coat of paint or at -least- some call numbers on the thing. Even Kirk and co took the time to spraypaint "Bounty" on the side of their swiped BOP.
I can appreciate that a white and black galor might look odd to some fans of the show, but a connie refit with a spirally pink paint job is pretty out of place to me, but the ability to customize ships is a pretty nifty part of this game. Being able to dress up a Ferengi Marauder with a nice looking fed style paint job would add to the value of these hard to acquire ships, would increase player options for customization, and would add a little extra lore to the idea that these ships have been acquired by federation captains.
Along the way, I also thing adding type six materials for more of the ship configurations would be stellar. I wouldn't even mind if they were locked behind the c-store unlocks, it's just annoying when I have to give up the gleaming white on my Regent just because I don't like the chicken-in-a-pot style forward swept nacelle struts.
Naturally, I'm not one to play favorites. My KDF types would also like to be able to put more traditional klink colors on some of their captured vessels as well.
So I'm interested to know if this tickles anybody else's fancy. Would anybody else be keen to see A feddie paint job on a Galor?
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I think its a great idea the game needs more customisation of ships and i enjoy flying about seeing ships with reman shields or dominion shields making each ship look different, i think different designs would be fun that way people can personalise there ship even more
the mat 6 skins were designed to be made for all "Standard" ships in the ship progression for feds. the blinding white hull i think would look horrible on the d'kyr and d'kora or other lockbox ships. i think the wells class/mobius might look cool in it as those are starfleet ships, but i think starfleet ships only hsould have type 6 mat.
They were working on adding the Type 6 skin to more ships awhile back but I think that project died when Capt Logan left.
Personally I use the Vet Skin on almost all my Fed ships. It provides a similar visual, but I think the little hull details it has over the Type 6 just look better.
People can mess with their uniform colors. I don't see how ships are all that more offensive to the mythical universe really.
I would find a FED colored Galor damned odd though.
I was thinking I'd like mine painted up like a manta ray - flat black on top, gloss white on the bottom. It would look mean as all hell.
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I don't know about the Alien ships (but TRIBBLE it why not), but definitely would like it on all the Star Fleet ships, The steamrunner got it, I would love it on the Excelsior, and definitely on the Sovereign skin.
They were working on adding the Type 6 skin to more ships awhile back but I think that project died when Capt Logan left.
Personally I use the Vet Skin on almost all my Fed ships. It provides a similar visual, but I think the little hull details it has over the Type 6 just look better.
well the mat 6 skin was for C-store ships only, but is supposed to work on all ships of that type. so there's really no way they can give it out to lockbox ships since they wont release new ship skins without a real ship.
so yes, they could have released a sovvy version when they made the regeant.
People can mess with their uniform colors. I don't see how ships are all that more offensive to the mythical universe really.
I would find a FED colored Galor damned odd though.
What I'd like to see is mottled appearance options on Lockbox ships -- i.e., Federation materials used to repair Alien ships, so it's got some of its original hull plating, and some Federation-style hull plating that was used to repair the ship.
If you are going to play around with ship customisation options then I want the ability to make set looks part of those options WITHOUT equiping the set.
I.E Acquiring an item will give a ship costume unlock that can be used on any player ship without needing the item equipped.
Now I can have my ship looking borified but keep the Jem Hadar Set or vice versa.
If anything, it would be awesome if we could further expand that so players can put multiple set looks on at the same time.
I.E Borg kitbash + Reman shield effect that turns the hull shiny blue + AGEIS shield effect which gives neon highlights.
not canon, but awesome idea, some will love, some will hate.
I actually think it pulls things closer -in- to canon. One of the major complaints about the lockbox ships is that fed captains shouldn't be flying alien craft, and one of the major defenses against that is that the federation is pressed by the war situation into using whatever ships it can get its hands on. If the ship has been "adopted" by starfleet, it makes more sense if it's been given a starfleet paint job and call numbers.
If my computer was stable enough to install my image-editing software, I'd try my hand at some mockups.
well the mat 6 skin was for C-store ships only, but is supposed to work on all ships of that type. so there's really no way they can give it out to lockbox ships since they wont release new ship skins without a real ship.
so yes, they could have released a sovvy version when they made the regeant.
I could understand putting the mat 6 skin behind the C-store, but I wish they'd include it on all the variants if you've -bought- the C-store variant so that you could still mix and match parts.
I think it's fallacious to say there's no way they can give it out to lockbox ships. They can make the textures and add them to the menu just like they can for anything else. It's just a question of if there's enough reason for them to do so. Personally, I don't know how much work it would be, but I think it would be really slick and give people that pour hideous amounts of zen into unlocking these rare ships. Locked behind master keys is still technically locked behind the c-store. ;p
My preference would be not to see any non-Federation ships in Star Fleet. But that starship warped out a long time ago...
I would, however, like to see all Federation ship textures available to use on all normal (ESD shipyard) Federation ships.
I actually like the idea of non-standard fed ships in starfleet. The catians or vulcans contributing ships to the fleet makes sense to my mind. It lends itself to the diversity of the organization, and paints it as something less of a "humans only club". But I do think any ship serving in starfleet -ought- to be flying colors or at least have its name and call numbers painted on the hull.
While, I don't care for the idea of Type 6 Material on alien ships, I would like to see at least a C-Store costume unlock of Type 6 Material for all Federation ships.
And speaking of Type 6, where are Types 4 & 5??
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Alien ships should look alien. Each future alien ship that belongs to a specific race should have the same skin options as the first alien ship. So Caitian ships should have 3 or 4 unique skins that are only available to them. Vulcan ships should have 3 or 4 unique skins that are only available to them. We need more alien skins not use current starfleet skins on them.
Alien ships should look alien. Each future alien ship that belongs to a specific race should have the same skin options as the first alien ship. So Caitian ships should have 3 or 4 unique skins that are only available to them. Vulcan ships should have 3 or 4 unique skins that are only available to them. We need more alien skins not use current starfleet skins on them.
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This I agree with. At least some different and unique skins for alien ships, but not Federation or KDF skins on alien ships.
Oh! And I would like to see the ship's name and registry on the ship's hull.
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This I agree with. At least some different and unique skins for alien ships, but not Federation or KDF skins on alien ships.
Oh! And I would like to see the ship's name and registry on the ship's hull.
Eh, but they're not -just- alien ships. They're alien ships that have been adopted by starfleet. And it's not like I'm advocating taking away the existing skins, just offering an alternative option.
I actually think it pulls things closer -in- to canon. One of the major complaints about the lockbox ships is that fed captains shouldn't be flying alien craft, and one of the major defenses against that is that the federation is pressed by the war situation into using whatever ships it can get its hands on. If the ship has been "adopted" by starfleet, it makes more sense if it's been given a starfleet paint job and call numbers.
If my computer was stable enough to install my image-editing software, I'd try my hand at some mockups.
The material used to make the hull is not a paint job. You're talking about Starfleet taking these commandeered ships and giving them a complete overhaul. Obviously this is not the case. In reality, Starfleet is simply deploying these ships with their alien crews as cannon fodder to be devoured by the war, while real Starfleet captains enjoy their tea. Earl Gray. Hot. From the comfort of their ginormous bridges.
So, no, Starfleet would not waste any resources in removing the existing hulls to give these throw-away ships new hulls.
The material used to make the hull is not a paint job. You're talking about Starfleet taking these commandeered ships and giving them a complete overhaul. Obviously this is not the case. In reality, Starfleet is simply deploying these ships with their alien crews as cannon fodder to be devoured by the war, while real Starfleet captains enjoy their tea. Earl Gray. Hot. From the comfort of their ginormous bridges.
So, no, Starfleet would not waste any resources in removing the existing hulls to give these throw-away ships new hulls.
I don't think a roleplay perspective is necessarily the right way to determine what Starfleet or characters would or would not do, personally.
I find the alien ships to be represented by the Federation's ideals. Numerous races working together for the common good. Starfleet has been too human-centric for all of the TV shows. Almost makes people think that other alien races have no exploration drive or are second-rate citizens in the Federation. Introducing Starfleet skins to alien ships seems like assimilation rather than diversification. The future of the Starfleet should be about getting away from its human-centric past rather making other aliens embrace it.
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Nope. Nadda. Nuh-uh. No-way. No how.
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I would find a FED colored Galor damned odd though.
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Was thinking how sweet the Ferengi cruiser would look too. But then you made me think of the D'Kyr. Heck yeah!
Personally I use the Vet Skin on almost all my Fed ships. It provides a similar visual, but I think the little hull details it has over the Type 6 just look better.
I was thinking I'd like mine painted up like a manta ray - flat black on top, gloss white on the bottom. It would look mean as all hell.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
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well the mat 6 skin was for C-store ships only, but is supposed to work on all ships of that type. so there's really no way they can give it out to lockbox ships since they wont release new ship skins without a real ship.
so yes, they could have released a sovvy version when they made the regeant.
What I'd like to see is mottled appearance options on Lockbox ships -- i.e., Federation materials used to repair Alien ships, so it's got some of its original hull plating, and some Federation-style hull plating that was used to repair the ship.
That seems like a cool option to me.
I.E Acquiring an item will give a ship costume unlock that can be used on any player ship without needing the item equipped.
Now I can have my ship looking borified but keep the Jem Hadar Set or vice versa.
If anything, it would be awesome if we could further expand that so players can put multiple set looks on at the same time.
I.E Borg kitbash + Reman shield effect that turns the hull shiny blue + AGEIS shield effect which gives neon highlights.
I actually think it pulls things closer -in- to canon. One of the major complaints about the lockbox ships is that fed captains shouldn't be flying alien craft, and one of the major defenses against that is that the federation is pressed by the war situation into using whatever ships it can get its hands on. If the ship has been "adopted" by starfleet, it makes more sense if it's been given a starfleet paint job and call numbers.
If my computer was stable enough to install my image-editing software, I'd try my hand at some mockups.
I would, however, like to see all Federation ship textures available to use on all normal (ESD shipyard) Federation ships.
I could understand putting the mat 6 skin behind the C-store, but I wish they'd include it on all the variants if you've -bought- the C-store variant so that you could still mix and match parts.
I think it's fallacious to say there's no way they can give it out to lockbox ships. They can make the textures and add them to the menu just like they can for anything else. It's just a question of if there's enough reason for them to do so. Personally, I don't know how much work it would be, but I think it would be really slick and give people that pour hideous amounts of zen into unlocking these rare ships. Locked behind master keys is still technically locked behind the c-store. ;p
I actually like the idea of non-standard fed ships in starfleet. The catians or vulcans contributing ships to the fleet makes sense to my mind. It lends itself to the diversity of the organization, and paints it as something less of a "humans only club". But I do think any ship serving in starfleet -ought- to be flying colors or at least have its name and call numbers painted on the hull.
And speaking of Type 6, where are Types 4 & 5??
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This I agree with. At least some different and unique skins for alien ships, but not Federation or KDF skins on alien ships.
Oh! And I would like to see the ship's name and registry on the ship's hull.
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Eh, but they're not -just- alien ships. They're alien ships that have been adopted by starfleet. And it's not like I'm advocating taking away the existing skins, just offering an alternative option.
So, no, Starfleet would not waste any resources in removing the existing hulls to give these throw-away ships new hulls.
I don't think a roleplay perspective is necessarily the right way to determine what Starfleet or characters would or would not do, personally.