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So what's wrong with the playable Aquarius?
djf021
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Hello,
I've heard a lot of negative comments about the playabe Aquarius destroyer. However, I'me getting very close to 200,000 fleet credits on one of my characters, and quite frankly, I can't think of anything else I want to do with all those fleet credits. So my question is:
What is it about the aquarius that people hate? Now I know it doesn't have all universal Boff slots, but from what I can tell, all Klingon Bird-of-Preys have 4 fore weapons and 2 aft weapons, same as the Aquarius. And Bird of Preys are VERY populaer. So it seems like a Fed should be able to at least get SOME use out of this ship. Why EXACTLY do people hate it so much?
Thanks!
I've heard a lot of negative comments about the playabe Aquarius destroyer. However, I'me getting very close to 200,000 fleet credits on one of my characters, and quite frankly, I can't think of anything else I want to do with all those fleet credits. So my question is:
What is it about the aquarius that people hate? Now I know it doesn't have all universal Boff slots, but from what I can tell, all Klingon Bird-of-Preys have 4 fore weapons and 2 aft weapons, same as the Aquarius. And Bird of Preys are VERY populaer. So it seems like a Fed should be able to at least get SOME use out of this ship. Why EXACTLY do people hate it so much?
Thanks!
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
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Really you should decide what kind of ship you like and stick with that. For all situations that you'd use an Aquarius in a defiant is almost certainly better.
http://www.stowiki.org/Aquarius_Destroyer
According to the STO Wiki, anyway, the regular Aquarius does have the universal Boff stations.
Still... aside from its universal stations, Reginamala is spot-on. The Aquarius is nothing except a neutered Defiant.
In fact, a lot of ships added to the Fleet shipyards, up to and including Fleet variants of lower-level ships, are less effective versions of something else. It's rather disappointing that, for instance, the Fleet Escort Retrofit (the Saber-class and its variants) have things like a 0.77 shield modifier when the standard at the Fleet level for escorts is 0.9 - 0.99.
I was hoping to see a lot more variety in Federation starships doing STFs after the Fleet system came out, but all I ever see are Alien ships, Odysseys, Vestas, and the same escorts we've always had.
Anywho, reasons to buy it:
-To stand out from the crowd
-Know that its a rare ship to be flown
-Its looks
-Arguably for its boff slots.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=544891
Patch notes, in case anyone was curious.
And before anyone goes hunting for it like I did, no, they did not give Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofits the lacking 10% boost to its shield modifier that every other Fleet ship has.
By "the universal Boff stations" I assume reginamala meant the fully-universal setup that the Birds of Prey have, rather than a wimpy Lt+En universal that everyone's just going to use like an existing, tougher escort anyway (Patrol, Advanced, and Blockade Runner Escorts are the most likely setups I see, and all are tougher without losing much mobility). The advantage of a Bird of Prey is its flexibility combined with its ability to mitigate its fragility by using its Battle Cloak to escape a tough situation (using it to get away when your shields are already down) or to create a lethal alpha strike (by decloaking when your enemy's buffs run down).
The real kicker for the Fleet version is that there's no way to get the discount (though I think that owning the Tac Ody should do so for the Aquarius and the War Bortasqu' should do so for the Hoh'SuS... which is, by the way, in every way a superior ship), and yet the Fleet Aquarius does little to mitigate its problems compared to both BoPs and Escorts.
Silly comment. The title is "So what's wrong with the playable Aquarius?", and we are telling him what is wrong with it.
It's ok, I don't mind getting other thoughts as well. In fact, if there's anyone out there who has the Aquarius and DOES make it work well, let me know how you do it. Thing is I know I could get a better ship (and do have them) I've just got a bunch of fleet credits burning a hole in my pocket lol, with not much else to do with them.
Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
-Captain James T. Kirk
if you dont have it, buy the free Odyssey. it is pretty much one of the best cruisers out there, and costs the same. aka it is not a waste of money like the aquarius (even with the added hull it will probably be useless compared to other escorts, I suspect that added amount will only be enough so the ship wont be called junk anymore)
also, just to answer the question, what is wrong with the aqua: everything
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
It's not really an opinion, though... it's a fact based on the ship's stats, relative to other escorts.
For most ships, I'd say a small disadvantage in stats is worth it if you really like the ship itself. The Aquarius, however, has over 6,000 base Hull points less than the Defiant, only around 3/4 of the Defiant's shields at best, and one less aft weapons slot, while sharing the same turn rate and gaining no special abilities to make up for its lacking defenses.
It is receiving a shield boost in the next patch, but there are more problems with it than just its shields. What it really needs is a higher base turn rate, higher base speed, and higher base bonus defense. If it at least moved like a BoP, it might just be subpar instead of being abysmal.
In short, an objective look at the Aquarius shows it to be beyond just a little subpar.