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jim625
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it seems that today on Saturday STF is full of players that can't do the mission right and I can't seem to finish the mission properly and get the rewards
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Although STF's are easier with experienced crew it seems those complaining have forgotten they were once given a chance to learn from experienced players as well.
Coach newer players and the group of newbies will decrease drastically. Yes, there will always be Noobs (Players who refuse to learn/listen/chat) but when we all help newer players we can achieve a high enough average level to cancel out the Noob players.
This is true. Newbs =/= Noobs
At least, though, run normal mode a few times to understand how the STF generally works. Elite will always have a few quirks that normal runs can't teach. This is where listening comes in.
I've developed this mentality about PUGs.: The optional is a nice bonus, but it's not likely we'll get it, not worth blowing a gasket over the whole deal. Even in PUGs, you'll be able to tell who's been doing their homework and who hasn't even cracked open the book.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Last week i warped in Kithomer Elite, optional failed and only myself and one other in.
Neither of us wanted penalty for leaving so we worked together, killed nanite probes, generators + transformer. Moved to other side, put generator to 5%, popped them same time, killed transformer before nanite probes arrived. Anyway you get where this is going.
Give newer players a chance to learn. Hide away in channels with only experienced players and you slow down the learning curve of those who really want to learn.
Just take a ship you can borderline solo the ESTF in and then you will have few to no worries. For example today I was in a bad group that blew generators early in ISE, so I flew over and started popping the spawns from the gate.
Killed all gate spawns before the team finished with the two sphere spawns. I love my shinny new Fleet Defiant.
It was amazing we did all the space and ground normals then we did all the Elites.
My Fleet leaders always say use Teamspeak for coordination and only team with fleets members.
Our Fleet is Tier 4 working on tier 5, we have 490 members people that are on around the clock. I just don't get why some people are against Fleets and Teamspeak.
I will never play another way because I don't want to less than the best.
If your having issues and tired of random groups, let me know my fleet still as room..
They could get on this forum and read the STF n00b guide instead of hearing about the 960Dil ESTF's offer.
Of all the STF missions where n00bs ruin Elite runs , Cure has got to be the worst.
"Protect the Kang" sounds so very easy...
It's so bad I play Cure on Normal now just so I can make 480Dil than a chance at making 960Dil.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Or even worse, when you're two minutes in, and one of the team members says "I have to go eat."
Once again, you chose to run an elite STF. Wait to eat.
PublicEliteSTF kept me from quitting STF's entirely.
That said, it would be polite not to start a multi-player mission if you know you have leave soon.
Those few that do understand that Elite content may mean something more and want to learn how to approach it as a team player, actively seek out information and eventually will gravitate toward others who are of like mind. As it was in my case.
Those who really want to learn, are intelligent and are team oriented most likely will do what I did. Hit up Google. Once I educated myself, finding others like myself was the next logical step. I'm not hiding away in the Elite channels. I'm seeking out like-minded players. Players who want to play team events as a team. Players who actually appreciate advice and communication.
I still pug from time to time. Usually when I'm trying out something new, as I only bring my best game to PESTF. Nothing has changed there. Any and all advice still goes unheeded and is occasionally even met with hostility. I was once berated for suggesting a player repair his ship. "I'll play my way, you play yours". That was a true LOL moment.
That's what made me stop tagging Epohhs, ****s who don't properly organize teams and so you end up with odd numbers of Active Tags.
Every successful run with 30 Epohhs tagged nets 4 Active Tags, exactly the right amount for the assignment. Any other number is just a token of failure that's only useful for another failure. Add in the fact that you can only do it once every 20 hours and that **** just cost you 20 hours worth of progress. :mad:
I totally agree with you on this. Things to remember when joining a public STF queue #1 Sometimes you get the optional & sometimes you won't, that's life #2 No reason to nerd rage at other players, I can be offensive to the whole group, remember ITS JUST A GAME #3 If YOU ARE the experienced player, always be prepared to compensate for weakness in your group.
The best advice I can give, and I believe it was mentioned in this thread before, join the "Elite STF" channel, search for it in the chat channel options and add it as a separate tab in your chat window like I do and label it 'STF' or whatever you like. There are experienced players who type messages in this channel of Elite STFs being formed in abbreviated form (CSE = Cure // KASE = Khitomer Accords // ISE = Infected). They will invite you to their private game with a 99% chance of it being 'noob free'. Remember.... We were all noobs once
So be nice
Of course, I play Sci, so when people blow nodes early I'm there to CC the mess and keep things under control. It actually keeps me on my toes and keeps me interested.
ESTF is not that hard if you get a couple people with half a clue.
Fleet Admiral Space Orphidian Possiblities Wizard
A noob blows a generator BEFORE we even blow the cube. Everybody is yelling at him in chat. He never responds. We had so many spheres coming thru it was like a flood.
Two people bail out and I am stuck with 1 person and the noob. :mad:
Somehow more people join the instance...and someone from the KDF side copts an attitude about the bonus....then sets everyone to ignore. Really? Does the borg gear hanging off my ship NOT tell you anything? Use some situational awareness and see the DA firing on generators by himself.
The DA....repeats himself on the other side and spheres flood the area.
Somehow we completed it and got our 60 marks. Took 45 minutes.....:mad:
DA = Dumb TRIBBLE$
I've been keeping track of my pugged ESTFs for a while now and the amount of major fails is low. Out of the past 300-400 ESTFs, only a handful failed the optional and I've yet to see one fail completely.
If anything, it's become better since the introduction of more powerful equipment and skills over the past 2-3 months. Even PuGs can usually compensate events that would've led to an optional failure before.
In my experience, both Public Elite/PublicElite channels have about the same ratio of good and bad players as PuGs.
we have to suff all the high up snobs do private
it is not our job to coach them they should go to stoacademy or wiki first learn what elite and realize you need 12 for it.
they hurt the team when thry sre not prepaird for it.