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Good ship for 2k zen

imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Federation Discussion
I was looking at the defiant retrofit kinda iffy to buy it and figured I should come ask you people I already have intrepid retrofit and gal x ( worst purchase ever ). Any suggestions?
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Defiant retrofit is a pretty cool ship. Ability to cloak can come in handy. Also if you are in a fleet with tier 3 shipyard, you can get the fleet version for 1 fleet module (another 500 Zen)
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  • imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Is defiant battle cloak or regular cloak?
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    imafrendly wrote: »
    Is defiant battle cloak or regular cloak?

    It has a normal cloak. It is also a console that you have to use in order to cloak, unlike KDF ships.

    If you do get a Fleet Defiant, you can put the cloak on that console.
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  • imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    It has a normal cloak. It is also a console that you have to use in order to cloak, unlike KDF ships.

    If you do get a Fleet Defiant, you can put the cloak on that console.
    I have the galexy x it h a clock also, if I buy the regular defiant can I put a cloak on it?
  • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    imafrendly wrote: »
    I have the galexy x it h a clock also, if I buy the regular defiant can I put a cloak on it?

    I think you can actually put the cloak from the Gal-X onto a Fleet Defiant.

    The keyword there is think, obviously. As far as I know, though, they're pretty much the same console.

    Last time I checked, Fleet Ship modules cost around 5 million EC on the Exchange, so you don't have to blow all your Zen on them if you have tons of EC.
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  • krayuskorianiskrayuskorianis Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    1. Yes, the Dreadnaught and Defiant Retrofit's cloak console are one in the same. They can both be seamlessly transferred to either ship and the Fleet variant of the Defiant.

    2. I own a Defiant Retrofit. It's a good ship. I got a couple of videos up on YouTube doing some STF's with it. I normally use my Armitage nowadays, the extra fighter pets are a plus. Also, I've NEVER seen a Federation ship have the Bridge Officer layout of the Defiant Retrofit at all. The only OTHER ship is the Klingon Qin Heavy Raptor.

    3. It's cheaper buying a fleet module (1) from the Exchange and no money involved to get a Fleet variant Defiant. The Fleet variant does not come with a cloaking console.

    4. The cloak is a normal NON-Battle cloak. It can only cloak if you're out of combat. It's good if you wanna get a jump on someone. Other than that, it's sort of useless.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    krayuskorianis wrote: »
    3. It's cheaper buying a fleet module (1) from the Exchange and no money involved to get a Fleet variant Defiant. The Fleet variant does not come with a cloaking console.

    Don't forget, that if you go this route - to set the quality.

    A search for a Fleet Ship Module without setting the quality to VR can return prices in the 9-10m+ range. Set the quality, and you'll be looking at 4.5ish. It's one of the items on the Exchange that people take advantage of others with because of the way the search works...
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I personally prefer the patrol escort (I have both). It has a lot more survivability -- 4x the crew (which helps all Team abilities), the ensign slot is Engineering (a third tac slot is kind of wasted), more hull.

    It doesn't LOOK so much more, but I find in STFs my defiant dies a lot when I can't manage aggro (and, of course, none of the cruisers are equipped to attract it), patrol escort does much better.


    In PvP, I suppose cloak and a little more maneuverability is nice, but... eh.
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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Mirror Patrol Escort would be a good choice. It has a Prometheus (canon) hull configuration, supports MVAM and has the tankiness of the ugly patrol escort.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    timelord79 wrote: »
    Mirror Patrol Escort would be a good choice. It has a Prometheus (canon) hull configuration, supports MVAM and has the tankiness of the ugly patrol escort.

    Can you do the Prometheus model with the Mirror skin or are we stuck with the Phoenix model?
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  • imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    thratch1 wrote: »
    I think you can actually put the cloak from the Gal-X onto a Fleet Defiant.

    The keyword there is think, obviously. As far as I know, though, they're pretty much the same console.

    Last time I checked, Fleet Ship modules cost around 5 million EC on the Exchange, so you don't have to blow all your Zen on them if you have tons of EC.

    Actually I have about 2K zen, I have never had even 1 mil
  • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    imafrendly wrote: »
    Actually I have about 2K zen, I have never had even 1 mil

    Did you mean to say Zen, or EC here?
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Fleet Patrol Escort.

    Requires tier 1 shipyard. Has the most hull out of any escort (except that new DHEC), good maneuverability, can tank very very well, maintains a still decent amount of firepower. Also has a perfect BOff layout for a full cannon build. Last but not least, comes with the Maelstrom skin, which is VERY nice. Long story short, it's the best escort you can get for 2k zen IMO.

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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    What is your profession if Tac the Defient would be fine.
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  • imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    What is your profession if Tac the Defient would be fine.

    I am a level 50 eng with a gal x intrepid retrofit and I am not getting galaxy retrofit due to poor turnspeed
  • imafrendlyimafrendly Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    hereticknight085 wrote: »
    Fleet Patrol Escort.

    Requires tier 1 shipyard. Has the most hull out of any escort (except that new DHEC), good maneuverability, can tank very very well, maintains a still decent amount of firepower. Also has a perfect BOff layout for a full cannon build. Last but not least, comes with the Maelstrom skin, which is VERY nice. Long story short, it's the best escort you can get for 2k zen IMO.

    http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Patrol_Escort

    Thank you o much, after reading that I decided to look up the defiant retrofit, thou this fleet variant cannot cloak it is still having the better build.
  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    As an eng the steam runner/blockade runner is the route to go tankier than the patrol escort looks better nice turn and nice damage

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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Remember 2000 zen will buy you 4 fleet modules, which will get you a Fleet Ship, for an additional 20,000 fleet credits.

    Which means you could have the Fleet Patrol with a tier 1 shipyard, Fleet Saber tier 2, Fleet Defiant tier 3, Fleet Advanced tier 4 and Fleet Akira tier 5.
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