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resoundingenvoy
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Even if I didn't have a record of every carrier after it rusting the Atrox a little more? Even if it does fail in ever aspect vs. a cruiser or even a science ship? Even if it fails in it's design use of being a anti-klingon ship? (Even if there wasn't a tiny foot note about updating the description to current standard in the patch note before last?)
In the rush to make the the the escort omni-carrier and lock boxes nice shiny, they updated updated the Antiproton Sweep sweep graphic.
One small hickup. Advanced Stalker Fighters.
Please note they have Antiproton Sweep. ... So that's 12 super shiny particle affects going off at once.
What frame rate? I had a frame rate? Where?
In the rush to make the the the escort omni-carrier and lock boxes nice shiny, they updated updated the Antiproton Sweep sweep graphic.
One small hickup. Advanced Stalker Fighters.
Please note they have Antiproton Sweep. ... So that's 12 super shiny particle affects going off at once.
What frame rate? I had a frame rate? Where?
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-The Antrox is being made worse to make new lock box carriers better
-All the antiproton sweeps are causing frame rate drops.
So the a guy may be saying, "How I know that the Devs dislike the Antrox."
Though I can agree with the Antrox statement, this would hurt other carriers like the Dreadnought too.
What xigbarg said. I wouldn't say it's being made worse, so much as it's dieing of neglect though.
Good lord. It's 1am as I read this OP, and was wondering if my brain was still working right since I didn't understand anything.
To answer the OP...
It's planned obsolescence. If your Atrox didn't SUCK vs the new shiny ship, then you'd have no reason to buy the new one, right? It's how things go. Cryptic does not care about what you BOUGHT, only what you will BUY.
Quoted for truth. Cryptic is a business, and exists to sell you whatever new shiny thing they've cooked up.
I think my brain just works 'left' instead of right.
That's bad logic on someone's part. Expanding the stock is good for giving people more options, and with more things to buy, more things bought. That logic effectively means only one item is in stock at any given time, the rest is just clutter to be safely ignored.
What's more it at least discourages me as I have to ask my self: Why buy anything (old or new) at all if it's shelf-life in two to three months?
Not for the same cause, that is the effect I refused to even look at the vesta line or escorts in general. I don't view them as participially well balanced and refuse to inflict that imbalance on someone else.
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As was quickly mentioned earlier, if the new Jem'Hadar Dreadnought carrier wasn't better than the Atrox or the Recluse, what reason would the Feds have to rush and get the new carrier, they'd just sit on their existing carrier.
Lots of things work this way, cars, computers, TVs, Blu-Ray players, etc. As new features/toys comes out, they have to be better to entice people into buying them, otherwise you'd get one and stick with it until the device breaks...
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with defiant hanger bay pets, free version carrier ship.
only fair since kdf have a free version carrier, and B'rel as a hanger bay pet.
(note: when i say federation i mean Humans, not some other species that part of the
federation.)
So are a dozen other ships. That's the nature of the game when it constantly releases new ships. There's only so much horizontal progression in this system.
And you forfeit your argument by being daft enough to bring up fairness in a Starfleet/KDF comparison. Feds do not get to use fairness as a argument when asking for content or ships, sorry.
If I were a tactical captain, and I only buy only tactical ships? Ignoring there could be something in the other lines I want or will later try? Let's set I have cause to buy ever escort in the game instead of the flavor of the month:
500Zen NX Class Light Escort
750Zen Escort Refit
1000Zen Heavy Escort Refit
1,500Zen Tactical Escort Refit
2,0000Zen Tactical Escort Retrofit
2,5000Zen Multi-Vector Advanced Escort
2,5000Zen Heavy Escort Carrier
500Zen Fleet Patrol Escort
500Zen Fleet Escort Retrofit
500Zen Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit
500Zen Fleet Aquarius Destroyer
500Zen Fleet Advanced Escort
500Zen Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier
13,750Zen Because by some off chance it was made worth spending it on ships alone.
That's $137.50 they could made off just escorts if they made it worth buying. Triple that if they made science or engineering worth playing and buying into. Ignoring what would be spent extra character slots, bank slots, bridge officers, unlocks, or keys? That's would total more then it would take to buy a lifetime subscription or what they could expect to make in a year even at $15/per month.
If they made ships worth buying.
Right now they're poisoning the well in hopes more then 1:10 will spend $50 every two or three months in keys. Plus what they spend on development costs to make the new shiny stuff.
Edit: What do I mean by poisoning the well? I've been asked about the Atrox more then three times, and STO has probably lost more then three Atrox sales. Because I tell them the truth: It's a very pretty ship, but your better off spending that 2,500ZEN on something else. It has too many outstanding issues.
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You're seriously comparing a B'rel to a Defiant ?
<facepalm>
When the KDF gets a dread that spawns D7's we'll talk.
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Thank you for the defense. My teachers would disagree, but English is my native language.
I just don't think or speak from point A to point B. I go from 'A' to 'C' to 'D' to 'Z', and ask you about 'B'. So, yes, if you have a question, please ask.
Worst they can do is either,
-Reduce the current prices on all ships
-Release new ships and nurf them so they are on par with the current ones.
'Why if the usefulness is decreasing, if the price isn't as well?'
*EDIT* grammar cracker fix
Because it doesn't cost them anything to continue to stock it. If it were a physical product, decreasing demand would cause them to reduce the price to increase sales, but for virtual items, it's not taking up shelf space; it doesn't even exist until you buy it, and then the bits magically appear in your account, generated by the C++ fairies. It's better economic strategy for them to provide new hotness that's better, and only put old stuff on sale when it's going to be a while until new hotness is ready.
That being said, I'm sure that they'll address the problems with the Atrox exploding frame rates. As for how long it will take them to fix it? It's likely going to depend on all of the following:
1) Can they fix it without decreasing its usefulness?
2) How many people does it affect?
3) How many people are affected by the thing that will have to get bumped back so they can fix this instead?
4) How hard is the fix to identify?
5) How hard is the fix to implement?
Some things that have been around forever and affect a lot of people have not been fixed because the fix is hard to identify, hard to implement, or breaks something that affects a lot more people. Other things that affect hardly anybody have been fixed rapidly because the fix was easy to identify and implement. One thing you can do to speed things along is discuss possible fixes here, where the devs will see them.