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bos142
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Can anyone help me figure out what is the best armor configuration for a Tac capt. I currently fly either an Assualt Cruiser Refit, Heavy Escort Carrier, and a Vesta class vessel.
Thanks.
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First is Tac consoles (pretty simple really), second is Sci (usually 2 x Field Generators plus a Universal Console or Flow Capacitors if useful i.e. using the Omega set).
If I have Eng slots to spare (not being used by other Uni Consoles) I slot Mk XI blue Neutroniums (free from the last Undine mission).
But as others have mentioned, sometimes I don't use them at all - my Kar'fi has 2 x RCS Accelerators to help get my DHCs on target - my Vesta has 2 x Plasma Manifolds to bump up my Weapons Power for the rear Phaser Turrets.
Armor is free to obtain so try flying with and without it - if you're not feeling much of a difference then put something more useful in there (my Peghqu' btw absolutely needs them
If you mix the armour up let says, neutromium, ablative and monotanium, will you still get diminishing returns?
Other people, far smarter than I am, have explained how armor resistance works and basically there's a hard cap of around 75% which you can never exceed (otherwise we'd have indestructible ships) - that's why adding 3 x Neutronium Alloys only gives twice the resistance of one.
So in answer to your question - yes, it doesn't matter what type (or combination) of armor you choose, they'll all be affected by this curve - some people just slap all Neutroniums in there (all energy/all kinetic), others might focus on a few extra points of Plasma resist (for STFs) or some other variation (most common/popular energy types for PvP) so its largely situation-specific.
You can't go wrong with Neutroniums though
Typical configuration is Ablative/Tetraburnium/Monotanium. This covers all energy weapon types, plus kinetic damage, and the overlap makes for extra resistance to plasma. But if I'm flying a more difficult mission and I know exactly what damage types I'll be facing, I'll swap out one of the armor consoles for more energy-specific plating: Electroceramic/Parametallic/Diburnium. I carry all five consoles around with me at all times, and switch them as needed.
another thing that makes them less apealing is, that if you skilled 6 points in both armoring skills, you already start with a diminished effectiveness on any armor console you add.
another thing that makes them less apealing to me is, that in an ESTF once your shields are gone, no console will save you...only heals do, and those add quite a bit of resistance anyway.
So smart usage of your heals (HE, ET, AUX2SIF) + resi abilities (brace for impact, polarize hull) is worth more than 3 armor consoles sloted instead of some more usefull universal consoles...
for PVP that changes ofcourse completely
Again thanks for the input
EPS is about the most useless console you can have, unless you extensively use Beam overload or constantly switch between power systems. Other than that it does nothing. It does not help in any shape or form to recover from weapon power drain when fireing your weapons. it only affects recovery rate after fireing a beam overload.
the shield gens work, you can see it for yourself. Just go into earth orbit and remove one, while looking at your shieldpoints...they will drop.
admirable bravery to go into battle against enemys that heavyly use plasma dots, without the single most usefull ability to counter them. respect
I like the electrocreamic 35% to plasma resist , i usually stack as many as I can there is no diminished returns the numbers you see in your ship tables is false concerning armor resistances , the way armor works has been explained in depth by others in the pvp forums
Brace for impact and polorize hull are your best defense from torpedos i asorb torpedos spreads from donatra in my escort with only a tiny amout of damage to my hull
overall the neutroniums are good choices too because they offer good protection against any damage type , again the more the better, they are really nice to do stfs back to back with sb24 or any other encounter without worrying about changing them out
The EPS console is a poor choice imo replace it with something else that will benifit you
The best armor however is speed and manoverability
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Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Neutronium is the best one to use as it gives you good protection against everything including kinetic
You should try and balance between field generators and neutronium
Run as few universal consoles as possible
Please do me a favour and right click on your eps console scroll down to discard click that and that will help run it empty if you want probably would be better
Your armor console make-up is irrelevant to diminishing returns from Damage Resistance Magnitude. No actual console has diminishing returns. If one armor console gives +40, then two gives +80, and three gives +120.
However, the numbers that armor consoles and abilities display are Damage Resistance Magnitude. Damage Resistance Magnitude has diminishing returns in relation to the Damage Resistance percentage we see in our ship status screens, which is what incoming damage is actually reduced by. See more details here.
Heh.
Like I said, you'd be surprised how well my little ship survives. I spend a lot of time flying around engulfed in plasma fire. Heck, now that I have that Omega plasma torpedo, I set myself on fire half the time. Between all my passive hull/shield bonuses, bridge officer skills, and everything my Engineer admiral brings to the table for healing, and using speed/cloak/subspace field modulator to keep my defense value high, I don't actually die all that often, and I only fly Defiants.
I don't run any armor consoles on any of my escorts, yet my ship almost always outlasts my fleet mates in ESTF's, fleet actions, and even occasional PVP. Virtually every console I run is a universal version (Borg Assimilated, Tachyokinetic, Zero Point Conduit, Rule-62 Combat Console, etc...), though I always equip a Field Generator and 4 or 5 tactical damage consoles.
hey if this works good for you that's great good on ya
just when i was taught this is what i was taught
I do agree that clickable consoles with no other passive states and 3+ minute cooldowns should be used sparingly.
I usually rely on speed-based defense rating to fend off a lot of incoming damage, along with the borg space set to regenerate when shields or hull get low.