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emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
edited January 2013 in PvP Gameplay
cant stay away. i blame pandas for incomplete migration to mwo.....

so thats it. got to stay competitive. someone who knows my style... what should i be grinding toward nowadays?


and how again? someone hit me a 'must have pvp grind roadmap' plz thanks

if u dont know my playstyle u prolly dont know jack about this game anyway
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  • emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    no help? all i got in opvp chat was get a rommy bo, but my fleet doesnt have embassy tier 1. so theres no mission or anything to do just the fleet projects?
  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 357 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Maybee give a little more info then just "your style" and not expect an answer within a few hours on a sunday ???

    Don't know jack, is he fun to play with ??
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    His style is:

    5% to make an incredible powerful and awesome "one-shot" kill out of cloak and kill you below 3 seconds,

    95% die horribly
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  • beary666stobeary666sto Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Ok Mini,

    Romulan Passives:
    Tier 1: Ground Crit Chance
    Tier 2: Space Crit Chance
    Tier 3: probably shield Heal
    Tier 4: for your style, the on crit placate

    Omega Passives
    Tier 1: GRound Damage
    Tier 2: Space Damage
    Tier 3: Rotating Weapon Freq
    Tier 4: This one is a toss up between 2.5% chance for extra bleedthrough, or a boost to shield regen

    Weapons that might interest you:
    Omega Torp
    I think its builds up 1 charge every 6 secs, to a max of 6 charges. The nifty thing is, you can fire all 6 charges pretty much at once. With a HYT it makes a plasma bolt with a **** ton of HP for a torp. Drunk will tell you it's amazing, I haven't gotten to try it yet.
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  • zarathos1978zarathos1978 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Emo is just an "I'm old PvPer, hur hur, respect me". Forget about it.
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited January 2013
    awwwww... welcome back mini ^^
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Rommie marks is epohhs. Yeah I know. Not only is it not PvP, it's not even fighting. The only thing I'd add to that guide is that you want to try for crits on the the duty officer missions, not success. At least that's what I do. After a while you should have a few epohhs in different stages and the marks will roll in a few hundred at a time.

    There's an entire zone on New Romulus devoted to classic "Kill 10 of x, collect 50 of y" turn in missions, but those make my eyes bleed. The zone is very pretty with some easter eggs though, and worth wandering around in. Each Romulan tier will unlock a mission in the zone too. On elite they have been some of the toughest ground PvE I've ever done. If you do the optionals in the final tier 5 one apparently there's an awesome payout too. The whole sector, Tau Dewa, has planets with missions that contribute to a romulan marks daily, but most of those make my eyes bleed too after enough repetitions. There's a red alert daily that pops up in sector that's totally worth it, but it's buggy and hard to catch one that isn't already complete when you zone in. It's dumb, but there's a radiation mini-game on the ground on New Romulus that I don't hate. It's mindless, but there's a multiplier that ticks like dilithium mining that somehow feeds the same thing in me that skee ball does and it feels like the turn in for that is faster than the collect 10 random things some scientist wants.

    I still just do ESTFs for Omega marks, KSE and ISE still being easy to compensate for crummy pug mates. IDK if there's a better way for those.

    After that it's just down to choices on what to pick when you level up the rep and what you buy. For your style, and most people's, I think you'll want the romulan console that boosts crit for sure. Currently you can get the old borg assimilated console, the romulan console, the temporal console from the lobi store, and reputation passives to boost crit chance.

    Like beary mentioned, the Omega Torpedo might be something you like to replace your trics, it hits like a tric but de-rezzes a target tron style when it makes a kill, and leaves a plasma burn that could potentially finish somebody off.

    Then there's the embassy. IDK what Xtreme has unlocked because only my KDF Eng is in which I never play. It's basically another starbase tree with two paths, one for science consoles and one for boffs/doffs. You can get science consoles that either boost or reduce threat in PvE, but they also come in 3 flavors, a hull heal, a shield heal, and add a plasma dot (+dmg if you're using plasma weapons). You can also get romulan boffs that have crit traits, but IDK how functional they are, I'm sure somebody will be posting about them soon. If they stack I think you could be flying around with passive crit chance in the 20% range, like pre-APA, which is nuts. We'll see I guess.

    To be honest, I kind of rebelled against the grind and have been playing a BoP alpha striker modeled after Thissler that has zero rep gear. I've been leveling his Omega because he had the conversion box but that's about it. He still gets kills, even with no set gear and blue kit. Although my geared KDF tac with tier 4 rep would get more because of his crit rating...

    Grind also includes Fleet Marks these days, the foundry daily is still a good way to go, IMO, because it's expertise, dil, and fleet marks. My old toons have a few million expertise but the ones I made to test a concept are frequently starved for expertise. Some of the foundry missions are real labors of love, and the Battle Royale missions are fun because it's like PvE boss fights. You zone in with like a Borg Cube, a D'Deridex, and a Kar'fi all fighting each other and you, and the factions change each round. It's not like the old "click a rock 3 times" daily missions because Cryptic watches stuff for the completions over time and if it's too fast it won't qualify for the daily anymore.

    I don't have maxxed doff tiers, but once you do that you can doff for fleet marks too.

    The starbase grind is as important, if not more so, than the personal one. There's a fleet shield that just got justifiably reduced in effectiveness, I won't say nerfed because it was so hilariously effective, and only fleets with a high level science tier have access to it (and it's still a really good shield). There's the fleet Norgh (Ning'tao it's actually called I think), which I'm actually considering buying, which has a shuttle's hull and shields but Cmdr, LtCx2, and Ens. You can bring more pain and it will actually be easier to trico yourself!

    Honestly brother, I've gotten fed up at times with the grind, but STO just keeps me coming back. Watching you on decloaking runs have always been some of my favorite moments in this game so I'm glad the cruel mistress that is STO has sucked you back in.

    For those who don't know, I'll paraphrase a quote somebody had as a sig for a while: his style is like D&D, he rolls total success or absolute disaster. zarathos, whatever dude, Mini has a style that he's stuck to and is his own man. I'm all over the place, rolling alts and trying out whatever build catches my eye. I can respect somebody who does what they love, especially when it carries such a high probability for self-immolation.
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Iirc you like using PSW. There are 2 types of Doffs that enhance PSW: 1 is the cooldown, the other has to a chance to chain react multiple PSWs.

    Also, Tech Doffs w/aux2batt maybe something you want to look into for 30% reduction of Boff powers or dual aux2batt for even more. It's best to use w/EPTA since they don't share a cooldown. It can be heavy micro and take time to work out combos et al.

    Not sure if you were a lifer or where you are in terms of 1000 day reward, but KDF Vet ship is very nice.

    Lobi store has Tach mines for shield stripping which may go well w/tric bombing. These are a matter of contention.

    Tric Mines w/dispersal patterns are a matter of contention.

    Get at least Tier 2 of rep system.

    Advanced Fleet options have best engines in the game imo, better than Elite Fleet engine options.

    Elite shields and Deflectors are best in the game. But using Fleet gear means you miss out on STF et al set bonuses.

    There's a romulan rep item that gives CritH bonus.

    There's romulan Boffs that give CritH bonus.

    There's a Doff that drains engine power when using TBR.

    Plas leech gain is always OP for it's gain (assuming you didn't have access to that before).

    Fleet Torkaht can be nasty, though not quite in your playstyle you may find it fun to try out.

    You'd probably like the Fleet Raider w/2x Lt Commander slots best though. See Thissler videos on this. Weakest non-shuttle tier ship in the game, has a bc.

    Oh, KDF has access to AMS now. Probably something you want in your inventory and was cheap off the exchange for KDF last I checked (though it's been awhile). I use mine as a spite counter to someone using AMS on me.
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  • houseofcritzhouseofcritz Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    emoejoe wrote: »
    cant stay away. i blame pandas for incomplete migration to mwo.....

    so thats it. got to stay competitive. someone who knows my style... what should i be grinding toward nowadays?


    and how again? someone hit me a 'must have pvp grind roadmap' plz thanks

    if u dont know my playstyle u prolly dont know jack about this game anyway

    This is very Disappointing!
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    As far as grinding, Borg Rep is generally easy, just PuG Elite KA or Infected space.

    For Romulan at some point you'll be offered a mission to go to systems in sector space then find and scan anomolies. It rewards 10 Rep points. You also will get some sensor currancy if you run the 1 minute mini game and if you save up to 300 or so you get decent rewards. If you also run the combat mission in these systems you'll get 20% towards the daily. So if you run all 5 you get the reward for the Sector Daily, the Sensor Scan Daily and some sensor currancy. There's a decent # of drops from NPCs for ECs as well. I prefer this to Bunny tagging.

    On the rare occassion Sector Space Red Alert pops and there's something to fight run it imo for New Romulus Sector that is.

    Doff mission on Qonos 1st City rewards 2k dilithium for turning in contra band, so do this along w/missions that get you contract band. There are a variety a missions that convert prisoners to Dilithium as well. You'll need dilithium for various things. Also Pi Canis is still decent for this, PvP depends on how often it pops.

    If your looking for Fleet XP, turning in 10k doff XP for those categories you have over 110k XP is a good source. Look for Doff missions that have high XP base reward and easy crit chance to max return on this.

    Ground Incursion is decent Fleet Marks to time if a decent PuG group. The Freight rescue is the same, but even more dependent on allies imo. If you don't have Doff categories @ 100k or just want to suppliment their rewards.

    In summary, I'd used the Doff system to suppliment/be main focal point of Dilithium/Fleet farming. Grind Romulan/Borg Rep yourself.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    the HY omega torp is a HY plasma with 4k hitpoints and typical HY projectile evasion. its very hard to shoot down and very resistant to AOE. even PSW and TBR. it also does more damage then a normal HY plasma torp, theres no disadvantage with it at all. with decent specing and HY3, it should do enough damage to 1 shot by itself.i can lazily get it to deal 15-20k damage non crit with HY1, and just 99 into projectile skill.


    when your not buffing it with HY, it has 5 charges that it fires at a rate of 1 every second and a half, until it uses all the charges, and then fires at a slower rate. after useing torp tac skills with it, it actually puts the torp on a 10 second cooldown were it wont do anything, which is EXTREMELY stupid. when you use a torp skill every 15 seconds, you will never get to see its charges drop, or use it in the unique way its intended. its unbuffed charges deal less damage then a DHC hit, its not a full plasma torp worth of damage. but they do set a bit stronger plasma fires then normal when they do hit
  • emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    thanks for all the ideas
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    if you a kdf centered player and have been gone a wile, you may be happy to know that there is now a good kdf escort. the fleet somraw has a nice 16 turn, 3/3/4 console setup, an ENS eng station, and of course a cloak.

    theres also a fleet version of the tier 4 nasican ship, its got a 17 turn rate, a sci ENS, 3/3/4 consoles, and a nicer shield mod, no cloak though.

    these fleet ship have better shields then their listed mod would suggest, a link in my sig would explain more.
  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited January 2013
    And for klink side, if your fleet has no elite shields yet available. Go grind omega marks with STF's. After completion of rep, you can get the adapted honor guard shield which is in fact the MACO shield. Very good on birds since its also a resilient shield.
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  • emoejoeemoejoe Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    tagged my first epohs wooot. thanks havam for the assist. phear my pveskillz
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    emoejoe wrote: »
    tagged my first epohs wooot. thanks havam for the assist. phear my pveskillz
    I always go something like this:

    "LFG Klink tagging. You can pretend you're kicking them. I do."
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Omega Passives
    Tier 3: Rotating Weapon Freq

    You would choose that over a passive shield heal, when the ground sets give a free remodulator? Why? I am curious.
  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited January 2013
    mini;

    when you do the tagging. Use your F button instead of mouse to activate a tag. that is faster. You can also use your mouse to turn your view during a tag, so you already spot your next hamster.

    I usually tag alone on kdf, because i hate the waiting for a team. I always get 3 tags, and since i tag every day, (with tagging having 20h cooldown and the doff mission 24h cooldown) i always have enough tags because I have to sometimes skip a day to do the doff mission.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Everyone leaving out the 4 tac console bop, the Fleet Hoh'Sus. It needs t4 shipyard but is well worth it.
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