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Borg MKXII same stats?

mjtwelvemjtwelve Member Posts: 10 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
ok guys, i just would like know...
shouldnt Borg Engines MKXII be better than MKXI?
like having 6 to engine power, compared to 5 on MKXI..
It would not make difference in pratical use, but at least
we would feel better burning our resources.

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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    It appears that there is zero reason to want Mk XII. :eek:
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    It appears that there is zero reason to want Mk XII. :eek:

    Not true. The mk XII engines are what is needed to complete the mk XII set and gain access to the mk XII assimilated tractor beam and regenerative shielding. Basically the 3 piece set bonuses.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Engines seem to have always had this problem, AFAIK.
  • ruinsfateruinsfate Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    It appears that there is zero reason to want Mk XII. :eek:

    Set bonuses for mk xii.

    Or in full, paying too much to get the set bonuses while using the minor upgrade of the mk xii shield and def over your 5 edc mk xis you got in S6 that you wish had been converted to xii.
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited January 2013
    ruinsfate wrote: »
    Set bonuses for mk xii.

    Or in full, paying too much to get the set bonuses while using the minor upgrade of the mk xii shield and def over your 5 edc mk xis you got in S6 that you wish had been converted to xii.

    This is a display error only and the team is investigating. The XII engines are better than the XIs, and you can see your stats change when you equip them if you are looking at your stats on the status screen while in space.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Thank you, Is there a difference in the old Borg set and the new one we unlock? I have the old one and wondering if its worth it to buy the new one with the stuff we earn?...
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  • mjtwelvemjtwelve Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    well thank you for the info Brandon, now i can sleep in peace ^^
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I could justify it maybe if for say for example if the full XII retro borg set made it look like the borgified ships such as like the borgified vo'quv at the end has a distinct look we can't get on them but I'm afraid the tiny smidgeon of stats like others have said it isn't worth spending all that time and currency on something that isn't worth it. Has to be cosmetic or substance :D or both :)
  • thyuberdudethyuberdude Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    zeuxidemus001 wrote: »
    I could justify it maybe if for say for example if the full XII retro borg set made it look like the borgified ships such as like the borgified vo'quv at the end has a distinct look we can't get on them but I'm afraid the tiny smidgeon of stats like others have said it isn't worth spending all that time and currency on something that isn't worth it. Has to be cosmetic or substance :D or both :)


    Yup i agree.. It would be totally worth all the res if the CD on the borg TB came down to 60 seconds..

    I got the XII Deflector for grins and giggles to compare and felt nothing but regret for sinking so much DIL into something that in reality wasn't any better then the freebie XI i got in S6..

    I suggest this.

    A. Better stats all around on the XII set.
    B. Better Stats for the Passives on the XII set.
    C. Better CoolDown on Borg Tractor Beam. (60 seconds please)
    D. All of the above..

    and new and improved visuals would be amazing to top it all off :P
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I may have to look at my MACOs then :(
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  • resistance9resistance9 Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    This is a display error only and the team is investigating. The XII engines are better than the XIs, and you can see your stats change when you equip them if you are looking at your stats on the status screen while in space.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
    .........the question is ...how much better should'nt we be able to see if it would make that much improvement when the silithium cost is out ragously high? it takes a full 4 days per pice ..times 3 thats 12 days or refineing to get the set....a set we have noidea if its any better in terms of practical use over the mkx1.....witch why after spending millions of ec , and weeks or months to do your little rep system...witch was a complete waste of my time fyi.......but after all that why are we punished by being asked to pay such rediculas prices for the gear......gear many of us had long long long ago and gear that should have been upgraded to mk2 in the first place. Way to show us that well frankly we dont matter
  • natejam101natejam101 Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I made the full MK XII borg set and after realizing that it was not any better than the MK XI except maybe 250 shield capacity and +2 stats on deflector, I vendored the set and put my good ol MACO MK XII back on.

    Thanks PWE for the TRIBBLE over called the "Reputation" system.
  • starmanjstarmanj Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I still say we should be able to see the Stats on item in store before spending resorces to unlock the store. Note we were able to see this on DS9 before all this change.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Specifically in case of engines, mark doesn't matter at all. Only if they enhance skills (like deflectors).

    You can mount Mk I uncommon Turn engine as well as a Mk XI uncommon Turn one, you'll end up with the same results (same turn and speed).
    That works also for the Assimilated Borg engine, Omega engines, maybe even the KHG engines (not sure about the subsystem power bonus they give).

    MACO engines differ somewhat in the Driver Coil bonus they give, as well as the Reman ones.
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  • djezc#0623 djezc
    djezc#0623
         Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ok wtf [Assimilated Subtranswarp Engines Mk XII] are the same as XI?

    why?

    i LOVE the borg set ive used it way b4 S7 and i love the new XII set but why are the engines not any better?

    Is it to much to as for 1 warp speed faster?

    perhaps a small bump in everything

    are not all XII purple items better than the XI purple item?


    whats ur thoughts people?
  • tangolighttangolight Member Posts: 777 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jeremycapone wrote: »
    ok wtf [Assimilated Subtranswarp Engines Mk XII] are the same as XI?

    why?

    i LOVE the borg set ive used it way b4 S7 and i love the new XII set but why are the engines not any better?

    Is it to much to as for 1 warp speed faster?

    perhaps a small bump in everything

    are not all XII purple items better than the XI purple item?


    whats ur thoughts people?

    It's been stated before by the devs that this is a display issue. The Mark XII engines are better, but like most mark XI to XII differences with the other sets, the difference isn't that large. It's only really worth it if you're the kind of person who just has to have the best, even if it's only a 0.1% difference, or if you're just really wanting to min/max everything.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Also... base engine stats in the game are determined by character stats, not engine Mk.
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  • djezc#0623 djezc
    djezc#0623
         Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    i didnt see this thread .. but ok i read a lot here still i dont see any dif in the XII borg engines
  • john98837john98837 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I don't use the assimilated set but do keep the engines around for doff assignment hunting, just curious do the Mk XII engines give you any speed increase in sector space over the Mk X?
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jeremycapone wrote: »
    i didnt see this thread .. but ok i read a lot here still i dont see any dif in the XII borg engines

    I use the mk XI borg set and yesterday before starting the projects to have the mkXII version, I copied my toon on tribble to test it...

    What a disappointment... The difference is so little that there is absolutelly no sense in upgrading from mk XI set to the MK XII... It isn't only the engine, but all the set... I am only happy that I had the idea of testing it on tribble instead of wasting omega marks and dilithium.
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