Hargh'peng is a powerful torpedo, but take a look at that cooldown? And did you notice how often is misses? And also that it can be cleared with hazard emitters?
SO which is the best type of torpedo in terms of the speed of a kill? Will the Omega torpedo launcher kill the enemy faster than the Harpeng? Will the Romulan Hyper launcher kill the enemy faster than the Omega? Which is better for an Odyssey Tactical? This would be so much easier if they just posted the damn stats so I could compare them.
SO which is the best type of torpedo in terms of the speed of a kill? Will the Omega torpedo launcher kill the enemy faster than the Harpeng? Will the Romulan Hyper launcher kill the enemy faster than the Omega? Which is better for an Odyssey Tactical? This would be so much easier if they just posted the damn stats so I could compare them.
Stats will scale with your skills, in addition the harpeng isn't affected by thy or ts(which is why i hate seeing it on escorts in place of a quantum)
Stats will scale with your skills, in addition the harpeng isn't affected by thy or ts(which is why i hate seeing it on escorts in place of a quantum)
So is the Quantum better than the Harpeng? And is the Omega better than a Quantum? And is the Romulan Hyper better than the Omega? I can only play for so long every day and only gather so many marks and dil. I need to know what to invest in. Quantum? Omega? Romulan? Which one?
If you're not specced for torpedoes and you don't use any torpedo abilities, HarPeng is great. The base damage is good with an effective proc. Thats why I recommend it for scis who don't want to go all energy.
You can use the space you didn't use for Torpedo Spread or High Yield for something else. This is especially helpful on a science build who may want to use TT, FAW, ATP:B and or skip tac all together.
The Hargh Peng is a GREAT torp. In STFs it has several other uses
1. It has the fastest time-to-target.
2. It's secondary has often killed many errant plasma torps.
3. It does take buffs from the generic torp console.
4. I don't see it miss that often.
I think it is an excellent option for a tail torp.
Best for Ody is Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo from Regent class.
This. With the Wide-Angle you can keep firing even from broadside and still benefit from torpedo skills. It's a beautiful thing to see a cruiser simultaneously trigger both Beam Fire At Will and Torp Spread off a full broadside alpha strike.
And if that's not available to you, standard quantums with a doff to reduce your cooldown work fine.
Omega torp is actually quite good, while it's low inital dmg on impact it can hit more targets with spread than normal and if firing on a single target it has a magazine of 5 torpedos each with but a 1-3 second seperation allowing you to dot a single target up to 5 times with plasma (which stacks) and does awesome plasma fire dmg to enemies, it can also be used with high yield to create a bit slower but more potent single torp. Overall very versatile and universal torpedo, but not a great choice for pvp due to many having plasma resists from certain shields, as for me i like it on the aft side for when i need turn for a run away i either hit them with a spread or hit single enemy with all 5 mag shots and let them burn.
What do you use the universals for?
If you're using one of them for tac abilities, you might as well put a high yield in there and use quantums.
One is a Sci (Viral Matrix is very handy against Cubes and Tac Cubes). The other switches between Sci, Eng, and Tac depending on the situation. Sci for crowd control, Eng for increased survivability, and Tac for increased firepower.
It's a Tactical Odyssey. What goes best with one of those?
I also like to run in my Tact Oddy most of the time. I was seriously disappointed with the Omega torp as it did not have anywhere near the impact (DPS) of my photons with HY2 and TS2 and with a VR Projectile DOff. After much experimentation, I simply removed it from my ship.
Upon aqquiring the Romulan torp, I reinstalled it on the rear of the Oddy with the cutting beam in order to get the full set Buff. However, I run the Romulan torp in the front which DOES do incredible DPS. When fighting Borg, I actually found that it is even better to run 2 vr Projectile DOffs than it is to run one of those and a Tholian Warfare Speciialist (vs Borg).
This despite the 10% damage boost the Warfare Specialist provides.
I just picked up the Rommy beam to complete the set and plan to try it out today with the Borg Plasma beam set I have in storage. Will keep Folks posted on this once I have an opinion.
By the way, I use currently use Advanced Fleet AP DBBs on the front (x3) to drop sheilds and have the Advanced Fleet AP arrays (x2) on rear in case I have anyone behind me.:cool:
Why do i say rom torp is best for PVE? Because any decent player will use BFAW or CSV to clean space so to speak.. whereas the Omega torp can't be targeted. Unless of course you launch a Plasma bolt. and even then a THY 3 plasma bolt has over 6k hp.
Rom torps do splash damage regardless of being a heavy or not which means they do damage and add dots to a group of enemies if they are close together.. Good example.. ISE once there are 8 spheres out.. a good GW will pull them in tight.. spam as many Rom torps as possible and enjoy.. Plus the Torps that are already in space will find another target if the one they were shot at is destroyed.
The Dot the Rom Torp applies is also the highest of any plasma torp.
To be honest if the rom torp isn't Nerfed i'd be a little surprised but I'm hoping it isn't.
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Just a few things to consider.
Stats will scale with your skills, in addition the harpeng isn't affected by thy or ts(which is why i hate seeing it on escorts in place of a quantum)
So is the Quantum better than the Harpeng? And is the Omega better than a Quantum? And is the Romulan Hyper better than the Omega? I can only play for so long every day and only gather so many marks and dil. I need to know what to invest in. Quantum? Omega? Romulan? Which one?
You can use the space you didn't use for Torpedo Spread or High Yield for something else. This is especially helpful on a science build who may want to use TT, FAW, ATP:B and or skip tac all together.
^^^^ This ^^^^
What do you use the universals for?
If you're using one of them for tac abilities, you might as well put a high yield in there and use quantums.
1. It has the fastest time-to-target.
2. It's secondary has often killed many errant plasma torps.
3. It does take buffs from the generic torp console.
4. I don't see it miss that often.
I think it is an excellent option for a tail torp.
Best for Ody is Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo from Regent class.
This. With the Wide-Angle you can keep firing even from broadside and still benefit from torpedo skills. It's a beautiful thing to see a cruiser simultaneously trigger both Beam Fire At Will and Torp Spread off a full broadside alpha strike.
And if that's not available to you, standard quantums with a doff to reduce your cooldown work fine.
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One is a Sci (Viral Matrix is very handy against Cubes and Tac Cubes). The other switches between Sci, Eng, and Tac depending on the situation. Sci for crowd control, Eng for increased survivability, and Tac for increased firepower.
I also like to run in my Tact Oddy most of the time. I was seriously disappointed with the Omega torp as it did not have anywhere near the impact (DPS) of my photons with HY2 and TS2 and with a VR Projectile DOff. After much experimentation, I simply removed it from my ship.
Upon aqquiring the Romulan torp, I reinstalled it on the rear of the Oddy with the cutting beam in order to get the full set Buff. However, I run the Romulan torp in the front which DOES do incredible DPS. When fighting Borg, I actually found that it is even better to run 2 vr Projectile DOffs than it is to run one of those and a Tholian Warfare Speciialist (vs Borg).
This despite the 10% damage boost the Warfare Specialist provides.
I just picked up the Rommy beam to complete the set and plan to try it out today with the Borg Plasma beam set I have in storage. Will keep Folks posted on this once I have an opinion.
By the way, I use currently use Advanced Fleet AP DBBs on the front (x3) to drop sheilds and have the Advanced Fleet AP arrays (x2) on rear in case I have anyone behind me.:cool:
Romulan hyper torp is best for PVE
Omega torp is best for PVP..
Why do i say rom torp is best for PVE? Because any decent player will use BFAW or CSV to clean space so to speak.. whereas the Omega torp can't be targeted. Unless of course you launch a Plasma bolt. and even then a THY 3 plasma bolt has over 6k hp.
Rom torps do splash damage regardless of being a heavy or not which means they do damage and add dots to a group of enemies if they are close together.. Good example.. ISE once there are 8 spheres out.. a good GW will pull them in tight.. spam as many Rom torps as possible and enjoy.. Plus the Torps that are already in space will find another target if the one they were shot at is destroyed.
The Dot the Rom Torp applies is also the highest of any plasma torp.
To be honest if the rom torp isn't Nerfed i'd be a little surprised but I'm hoping it isn't.
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