Apparently they aided the fleet of Klingon Chancellor Sompek when it was damaged exploring the Badlands. They also have trading agreements with the Federation.
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They are kind of annoying, at least in "Second Wave" when I have to convince them to join the anti-Borg coalition, despite knowing their only contribution is assimilation victims in need of rescue.
i don't even understand why they get so much space in the story (not only their own sector) but also in other story arcs...
they are a minor species, not as annoying as bajorans, but nearly.
Ignoring sollvax (proven troll), they're a neutral power with ties to the Preservers (in stories, I mean). Going by their ideas of Balance, they aid the Klingons in a battle, and trade-but-not-ally with the Federation.
Then when in trouble, they ask for help... it's as simple as that. And neither faction will leave them to their own devices, both because of Preserver site and Borg Invasion.
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speaking on the borg invading defera there may be something else going on there. if you stay on the invasion zone and look around collect scouting reports they constantly report "the borg have found something" but what? the perserver object on the temple area we found that too its somewhat hard to notice:P is the only "something" that we have seen so far. maybe more missions are coming to the invasion zone something like "into the probe" to find out if the borg have found something dangerous possibly an assimilated perserver feeding information about weapons to the collect or about genetic coding they used to create the other species in order to destroy them or borg losses are greater then noticed now they must create some more borg perfect borg.
From my understanding they asked for protection from both the klingon empire for helping a fleet and any honor demands klingons to go and fight to pay what they owe the federation i'm not too sure on. but being so close in the alpha quardent from 2800 we know the federation cannot afford to have any planet fall to the borg. i'm sure if it became bad enough you'd see section 31 running around with mini torpedos strapped to there back charging toward the probe lol ok probably not but that would be a fun kit to make ingame. but after that there is talk of them joining the klingon empire or federation for who gives the most aid/support some day they may join something new might be added. maybe a question for the next ask cryptic:)
Most races the Borg have assimilated (with some exceptions, like species 8472) are seeded species descended from the preservers. It's likely that these humanoid races are easier to assimilate since the Borg know more about their physiology.
If the Borg were able to gain access to the preserver star maps and the locations of all their descendants, they could map a much easier road to assimilating the galaxy by targeting star systems with known humanoid species.
That's my guess at the "something" the Borg would have found on Defera. I don't think the preservers themselves would be a big assimilation target, since there are probably only a few hundred of them left, still in cryonic sleep.
I'd rather ask the question "What did the Federation or Empire do for the Deferi?". We seem to be only cozying up to them for Preserver access and using them as a pawn in our melodramatic chess game with one another. Its been more than a year and their homeworld is still infested with Borg and their colonies and convoys continue to be assaulted by the Breen; their people kidnapped and forced to work in dilithium mines.
If the Deferi would rather die than defend themselves then that is their decision, the Federation should not use them as a means to an end and the Klingons should impeach J'mpok (less politely) and plant the banner of Kahless straight through Ambassador Surah's cold lifeless corpse on the steps of the capital.
Ignoring sollvax (proven troll), they're a neutral power with ties to the Preservers (in stories, I mean). Going by their ideas of Balance, they aid the Klingons in a battle, and trade-but-not-ally with the Federation.
Then when in trouble, they ask for help... it's as simple as that. And neither faction will leave them to their own devices, both because of Preserver site and Borg Invasion.
And you are a disrespectful Mutago
And the preserver site should be tricobalted
there is no reason to allow the borg access to ANYTHING
(i object to being called a troll by this person on the basis he is a Total Jerk)
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If we destroy everything we have so the Borg can't get it...what will we have left?
Oh, plenty. Galaxy's a big place, I'm sure we'll run out of torpedoes eventually.
But, seriously, the Deferi have sovereign control of a planet containing what is probably the most advanced technology in the quadrant that isn't Iconian. The Borg are a distraction, the Tholians are an annoyance. Both factions know who the real threat is. We don't know their numbers or their intentions, we're not even completely sure if the now four ships seen aren't just the same ship four times. But we do know that their ships can vaporize a Borg cube and completely disable a starship and have been known to do both just for the sake of intimidation.
Unless their long game is to finally make a fortune selling us clean pants, we need that technology, and more.
The devs will finish the Defera invasion zone any day now and they story will be finished, its not like its a broken mess of an area, right? Just because virtually every mission in that zone is broken in some way...
And the preserver site should be tricobalted
there is no reason to allow the borg access to ANYTHING
I have to agree with sollvax here. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and all that. We don't know (I don't think) what Preserver technology the Borg are looking for, but we shouldn't be risking the possibility that they'll find it, whatever it is.
I understand why the Federation is helping the Deferi. I don't understand why some Klingon captain hasn't gone Indri VIII on the planet yet.
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-Thomas Marrone
they are just there to be annoying
they have NO value beyond that
they are a minor species, not as annoying as bajorans, but nearly.
Then when in trouble, they ask for help... it's as simple as that. And neither faction will leave them to their own devices, both because of Preserver site and Borg Invasion.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
From my understanding they asked for protection from both the klingon empire for helping a fleet and any honor demands klingons to go and fight to pay what they owe the federation i'm not too sure on. but being so close in the alpha quardent from 2800 we know the federation cannot afford to have any planet fall to the borg. i'm sure if it became bad enough you'd see section 31 running around with mini torpedos strapped to there back charging toward the probe lol ok probably not but that would be a fun kit to make ingame. but after that there is talk of them joining the klingon empire or federation for who gives the most aid/support some day they may join something new might be added. maybe a question for the next ask cryptic:)
If the Borg were able to gain access to the preserver star maps and the locations of all their descendants, they could map a much easier road to assimilating the galaxy by targeting star systems with known humanoid species.
That's my guess at the "something" the Borg would have found on Defera. I don't think the preservers themselves would be a big assimilation target, since there are probably only a few hundred of them left, still in cryonic sleep.
If the Deferi would rather die than defend themselves then that is their decision, the Federation should not use them as a means to an end and the Klingons should impeach J'mpok (less politely) and plant the banner of Kahless straight through Ambassador Surah's cold lifeless corpse on the steps of the capital.
And you are a disrespectful Mutago
And the preserver site should be tricobalted
there is no reason to allow the borg access to ANYTHING
(i object to being called a troll by this person on the basis he is a Total Jerk)
If we destroy everything we have so the Borg can't get it...what will we have left?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Of course, it's difficult to determine what shifts the balance when you're not a Deferi. They could be misleading us and we'd never know it :P
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Oh, plenty. Galaxy's a big place, I'm sure we'll run out of torpedoes eventually.
But, seriously, the Deferi have sovereign control of a planet containing what is probably the most advanced technology in the quadrant that isn't Iconian. The Borg are a distraction, the Tholians are an annoyance. Both factions know who the real threat is. We don't know their numbers or their intentions, we're not even completely sure if the now four ships seen aren't just the same ship four times. But we do know that their ships can vaporize a Borg cube and completely disable a starship and have been known to do both just for the sake of intimidation.
Unless their long game is to finally make a fortune selling us clean pants, we need that technology, and more.
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I have to agree with sollvax here. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and all that. We don't know (I don't think) what Preserver technology the Borg are looking for, but we shouldn't be risking the possibility that they'll find it, whatever it is.
I understand why the Federation is helping the Deferi. I don't understand why some Klingon captain hasn't gone Indri VIII on the planet yet.