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samb0wski
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I've still new in this game. Less than 3 months in and I am currently level 50. I've been using a Tactical Escort Refit for the past month or so. It is a very effective, touch little ship. Lately I have realized that as I have progressed in Ranks and as I continue on the Romulan Missions, the ships firepower seems to be faltering.
Up front I have a Quantum Torpedo launcer and the Hargh'peng, along with a Quad Cannon and a Plasma Dual Heavy cannon. Aft I have Phaser Turret and a Disruptor Turret.
Tactical Consoles I got a Zero Point Quantum Chamber, Warhead Yield Chamber and a Prefire Chamber.
All my Bridge Officer are ranked Commander. And the ship has slots for 2 Tactical, 2 Engineering and 1 Science.
What I want to know is, what can I add to increase the Firepower of my ship.
Should I get rid of that Quad Cannon in favor of a Dual Heavy Cannon?
And the Turrets, while extremely useful in giving an all round arc of fire, and especially useful in destroying heavy plasma torpedos, is it better adviced to replace them with something else?
Looking forward to your feedback and advice. Many thanks!
Up front I have a Quantum Torpedo launcer and the Hargh'peng, along with a Quad Cannon and a Plasma Dual Heavy cannon. Aft I have Phaser Turret and a Disruptor Turret.
Tactical Consoles I got a Zero Point Quantum Chamber, Warhead Yield Chamber and a Prefire Chamber.
All my Bridge Officer are ranked Commander. And the ship has slots for 2 Tactical, 2 Engineering and 1 Science.
What I want to know is, what can I add to increase the Firepower of my ship.
Should I get rid of that Quad Cannon in favor of a Dual Heavy Cannon?
And the Turrets, while extremely useful in giving an all round arc of fire, and especially useful in destroying heavy plasma torpedos, is it better adviced to replace them with something else?
Looking forward to your feedback and advice. Many thanks!
13th Autonomous Battle Group
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
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USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
Good advice on the weapon / boff layout the problems I see are:
1. You said your flying the tactical escort refit at level 50? its a Captain level escort so only has 2 aft weapon slots. so is it this ship?
http://www.stowiki.org/Tactical_Escort_Refit
2. If you like the look of the defiant and are willing to spend money you can get the Tactical escort Retrofit its the upgraded version of what you have.
http://www.stowiki.org/Tactical_Escort_Retrofit
3. or try
http://www.stowiki.org/Blockade_Runner_Escort_Retrofit
http://www.stowiki.org/Heavy_Escort_Carrier
http://www.stowiki.org/Multi-Vector_Advanced_Escort
All are escort class and a blast to play with and have 4 forward / 3 aft weapons with a very nice turn rate.
4. If money is an issue and u haven't used your rear admiral ship token you might try:
http://www.stowiki.org/Patrol_Escort
very similar boff layout - LTC Tac vs LT Tac , 4 Tac consoles vs 3 Tac consoles
Weapons preference is up to you but it is generally better to run all the same type of weapons so you only have to buy 1 type of tac console. my general preference in the Defiant if you like the quad cannons is:
FORE
2x Phaser dual heavy cannons
1x Phaser Quad cannon
1x Quantum torpedo launcher
AFT
2x Phaser turrets
1x Hargh'Peng ,or Additional Phaser turret
in your tactical console slots you could run:
3x Phaser Relay + 1x Zero Point Quantum chamber or
4x Phaser Relay - the dmg bonus stacks without issue as i understand it
so if you have Mk XI Phaser relays = 26.2% base dmg boost from each console or 4 x 26.2 = 104.8% BASE dmg boost vs 78.6% for running 3x same console
Happy Hunting
another option is to equip a DBB and get a BO3 somewhere in there...in that case you can get the 3rd ensign a target subsystem engines or whatever. That variant is often used in PVP by players.
I already used the free ship at Read Admiral Level to buy a Assault Cruiser. Will try to buy the Blockade Runner Escort Retrofit. It looks to be the more powerful of the ships you have listed.
Isn't the Hargh'Peng more powerful than the Quantum Torpedo? Is it worth having it as a aft firing weapon compared to fore firewing weapon?
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
Thanks woodwhity. Exchange as in the one at Starbase 1? And where do I have to go to get those Fleet Modules? And after getting them do I automatically get the ship or it has to be crafted or something?
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
You'll need access to a fleet that has a teir 3 shipyard and the 4 modules.
The exchange is the one on ESD or DS9,(search) just search "fleet module" under description. For some reson I thought it required a teir 5 shipyard but its very early so kinda loopy
The Hargh'peng is unaffected by any torp skills is why I put it in back. I leave it on autofire
And slot a projectile doff to reduce the cooldown.
Its got more pow and takes hazard emitters to clear or target gets a nice secondary explosion sometimes enough to finish the job.
So since already have the Captain level Tactical Escort Refit, does it mean i only need to get 1 module in order to get the Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit?
The fleet I joined is new the 13th Autonomous Battle Group. I think the Shipyard is only a level 1 yard for the time being. Guess will have to wait a while for the Shipyard to get up to par
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
Woodwhity but I bought it for Zen from the C-Store.
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
Then it already Tier 5 and VA-Class, not Captain class. Then you only need one 1 module (roughly 5mio EC via exchange). The Fleet Variant hast +10 hull and shields and +1 tactical console.
Sadly no mirror escorts yet, but if you have been running the Winter wonderland races the Breen Chell Gret could be built into a very nice escort with the right build.
http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Chel_Grett_Warship
i think he actually has the VA variant from z-store. Just to be clear again...t4 is called tactical escort refit and the t5 is called tactical escort retrofit
the refit brings no discount for the fleet variant, but the retrofit does. The names are confusingly similar, but they are not the same.
1. This is, what forum dwellers nickname a "skittle boat"... Quad cannon = phaser, then you have a Plasma DHC, phaser turret and disruptor turret. If you match all 4 weapons with a singular energy type (say, phaser if you want to keep that Quad cannon), you can then swap out that prefire chamber with the dedicated weapon type console, which always has a higher percentage boost than the generic prefire one. While you're adjusting consoles, buy a second dedicated energy type one and replace the warhead chamber, leave quantum torps and the zero point quantum console if you like high spike damage with a little more delay between firing cycles...
1.5 - having the two torps on the front is slightly odd without the right build (having three purple projectile officer DOffs slotted for space in your build). Even on dual-forward torp builds, they usually use 2 photons or quantums, as there is no booster for Har'Pengh, and the secondary effect is not as useful as having two direct damage torps.
2. The indication of only two aft weapons indicates you most likely are still flying the Captain-level Defiant, instead of any kind of tier 5 ship. As such, and previously recommended, use the Advanced Escort (slightly more science bend) or the patrol(?) escort (the slightly more engineering bent one) until you can afford to get the Fleet escort refit (zen, buyable off the dilithium exchange with dilithium) or the Fleet escort Retrofit (uses fleet modules buyable off the regular exchange that is on most every base). Both "fleet" escorts use the Defiant skin.
3. As far as BOffs go, a little bit of that will be determined on what build you finally wind up with. Though the recommendation to have Cannon Rapid Fire, High Yield Torpedo, and two copies of Tactical team are solid, especially if you want a ship dedicated to blasting big targets, and use the cannon scatter volley and torpedo spread if you want to take out lots of little ships. Heck, having CRF, HYT, 2xTT, CSV, Torp Spread & an attack pattern of your choice (usually beta) fills your 7 tactical slots quite nicely, and if you get the fleet escort that has like 8 tactical skills, adding a second attack pattern is generally useful.
4. Once you get the Admiral level ship, running 3 turrets or 2 turrets and a mine are both legitimate options...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
I've still new in this game. Less than 3 months in and I am currently level 50. I've been using a Tactical Escort Refit for the past month or so. It is a very effective, touch little ship. Lately I have realized that as I have progressed in Ranks and as I continue on the Romulan Missions, the ships firepower seems to be faltering.
Up front I have a Quantum Torpedo launcer and the Hargh'peng, along with a Quad Cannon and a Plasma Dual Heavy cannon. Aft I have Phaser Turret and a Disruptor Turret.
Tactical Consoles I got a Zero Point Quantum Chamber, Warhead Yield Chamber and a Prefire Chamber.
Baudl a 4 fore/ 2 aft and 3 tac consoles is a captain lvl refit defiant :rolleyes:
http://www.stowiki.org/Tactical_Escort_Refit
yeah you are definately right...he was using a captain ship all the way through 40-50 and apparently some time at lvl 50 too. i couldn't actually believe it or i didn't want to believe it.
I will be investing in a new ship in the coming few days. I could really use some advice on this matter. My options are as follows and please let me know if there are any more options.
-Aquarius Destroyer : Not possible at the current time, dont have anywhere near the fleet credits required and our Fleet Starbase is currently only at level 2 Shipyard
-Tactical Escort Retrofit : Nice little ship, I already have the Captain level version. Is the Cloak really as important as it sounds? Big bonus is that it can be upgraded to the Fleet version when our fleet shipyard eventually reaches level 3. Hopefully by that time I should have the fleet credits to buy the upgrade otherwise I will be up the Creek :P
-Chimera Heavy Destroyer : Damn this ship looks and from what I've read sounds deadly.
-Escort Retrofit : Lower hull strength and the Impulse Burst sounds like TRIBBLE. Is it really worth the money?
-Fleet Patrol Escort : can get this one from our Fleet Starbase no problem. However don't have nearly enough fleet credits, current bank balance is only a couple thousand fleet credits. Is it worth the wait?
Looking forward to your thoughts. Thanks everyone!
USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
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USS Crimson Sunrise / USS Midian Breach
Is this true? Damn. I only have one torp, a Hargh'peng up front and have a BO slotted with all sorts of torp skills.
What is a good, front end, alternative? I tend to run all Tetryon to strip shields like tissue paper.