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Hirogen Battleship Group Despawns After A Few Seconds

nagoraknagorak Member Posts: 882 Arc User
edited November 2023 in The Foundry for Star Trek Online - Bug Reports
There's something wrong with the Hirogen Battleship group. Ever since Season 7, it will despawn after a few seconds, if it is not immediately engaged in combat.

I think it may be using some sort of ability to hide from sensors, because a glow surrounds the ship before it disappears. However, when it disappears it immediately counts as defeated if it's an objective. So, if that is what is happening, the power is inadvertently despawning the ship entirely.

Other Hirogen groups seem to work properly.

To recreate just place a few Hirogen Battleship groups. Important: The problem may only occur after publish. It was working properly for me sometimes in preview, but it failed every time post publish. This could also mean that it's only the highest rank of battleship that has this problem (in other words, the Lieutenant Commander version is not bugged, but the Admiral version is).
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  • iggymiggym Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yes! Thank you! This is the exact problem my mission has. Anyone know if any other ships that use Jam Sensors unexpectedly despawn?
  • nagoraknagorak Member Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem (well, I'm sort of sad to see it, but glad that it's not something with my mission). I hope it is fixed soon. :(
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  • styxslethestyxslethe Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    yeah same with my mission but also some of the other hirogen and other bigger ships dissapears, hope they fix it soon, its annoying
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I noticed the exact same behaviour in now 2 of the Cluster Exploration missions (encountered as KDF). Seems to be a problem with the Hirogen Battleship group itself, not specific to the foundry.
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited January 2013
    Thank you for the information. This is under investigation.
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  • overlapooverlapo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Actually, I can add to this. The ship that despawns is a holographic Hirogen ship. It has about 9k hit points at lvl 50 and if it doesn't despawn it does display the fx common to holoships. It seems to pop up randomly when the game calls for a hirogen battleship
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    overlapo wrote: »
    Actually, I can add to this. The ship that despawns is a holographic Hirogen ship. It has about 9k hit points at lvl 50 and if it doesn't despawn it does display the fx common to holoships. It seems to pop up randomly when the game calls for a hirogen battleship

    i was in a battleship royal and a Hirogen ship that was extreamly fragile warped in and was killed very quickly, it couldn't have had much for health. thats likely what it was
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    crypticfrost wrote: »
    Thank you for the information. This is under investigation.

    Yeah at first it was stated it was working as intended and now its under investigation :)
  • nagoraknagorak Member Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    overlapo wrote: »
    Actually, I can add to this. The ship that despawns is a holographic Hirogen ship. It has about 9k hit points at lvl 50 and if it doesn't despawn it does display the fx common to holoships. It seems to pop up randomly when the game calls for a hirogen battleship

    Actually now that you mention this, it makes sense. The glow around it looks a lot like that of a holographic ship. I think you're right that the game is spawning a holographic ship sometimes instead of the proper ship, and then since it's not engaged in combat it despawns.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Hirogen Battleship used Jam Sensors. So it appears to turn invisible for a number of seconds.
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  • nagoraknagorak Member Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    The Hirogen Battleship used Jam Sensors. So it appears to turn invisible for a number of seconds.

    This is a different issue. The Hirogen battleship is despawning and counting as defeated before it's even engaged. I thought at first it was because of jam sensors, but in fact the glow on the ship looks a lot more like a holographic ship, so I think that theory is correct. Jam sensors doesn't really have an animation, the ship just disappears, and it is target specific, so it can't be used until combat is engaged. We're not even managing to get in combat with the ship most of the time and the objective to defeat it is completing automatically.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Jam sensors creates a particle effect around the ship it was used ON. But it shouldn't cause the ship to register as killed either way.

    Hunh... I like the holographic theory. It wouldn't be the first time. But, when do the Hirogen use holographic ships? I know they use holoemitters in ground but ships? I don't remember seeing one. Maybe that's what is supposed to spawn instead? A Hirogen ship that uses Photonic Fleet?
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  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited January 2013
    There is a fix for this on the way, but I don't know when it will be live.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Just noticed it with KDF ships and tholians. just disappearing on me. Hope the fix will be soon.
  • dixoniumdixonium Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Count me among those who have been experiencing this problem with the Hirogen Battleship group in published Foundry missions. Like the rest of you, I can see the ship spawning as a hologram before then vanishing into thin air. The mission tracker immediately updates the objectives by counting a kill. This makes the dramatic final space battle in my Foundry mission rather less dramatic. This occurs only once published, not in preview.

    Fingers crossed on the fix!
  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    Just noticed it with KDF ships and tholians. just disappearing on me. Hope the fix will be soon.

    Is this in a published mission or in preview? If it's in preview then it's part of a larger known issue that we're working on. If it's happening in a published mission, that's something new I'll have to track down.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    crypticfrost wrote: »
    Is this in a published mission or in preview? If it's in preview then it's part of a larger known issue that we're working on. If it's happening in a published mission, that's something new I'll have to track down.

    It was in preview. Published looked good.
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I saw a Hirogen Battleship (just the battleship) despawn on one of the Tau Dewa patrol missions. It was part of one of the waves, and out of weapons range. It disappeared but the other ships of its wave remained.


    This might explain why some of my re-skinned hirogen ships in 'Conjoined' had a hologram flicker. But I don't recall how long ago that was and haven't taken a look lately.
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  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    It was in preview. Published looked good.

    Thanks for that, I was worried that I was going to have to crawl into the Jeffries Tubes to hunt up a new bug.
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